When\how to intiate first kiss?

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LMBFAO! If you're looking for a time to kiss, it's that awkward moment. That's the right time. "Oh yeah, I love juji fruits." "Me too!" *silence, huge kissing and making out ensue*

agreed. Just go for the kiss when you feel like it. if you feel that the time is right, she most likely will feel the same way.

I hope you're kidding... that's a fantastic way to get you slapped...

That's the way it's been for me each time, and I've never slapped anyone *shrug*

ToS: it lets her know that you are thinking about a kiss. it totally works, it's really hot. but it's a lot hotter if you look back at her eyes afterwards, because then she knows it's *her* you're thinking about, not *just* kissing her.

also, leaning forward as though you are going to kiss her but stopping about 20cm away works as well. of course, these things are generally followed by a kissing-type scenario, but they work well for groundwork.

Indeed, the pause allows the girl the chance to turn away if she's not ready for it yet. Or on the flip side if she's really ready for it, she might get too excited and go for it herself at that point.

And yes, looking back at the eyes is important, makes the difference between, "I really want to kiss" and "I really want you".

I kept thinking things would get better in a few years too, but they never did. I faced alot of challenges in this area. Some people start dating in high school. My parents didn't believe in teen age dating, so I was pretty much locked out of that. I might have been able to convince them to relax that when I was a senior in high school, but the way my high school was, I was locked out of the dating pool the day I walked in the door because of the clannishness of the place. Everyone there had either gone the same churches together, went to the same elementary schools together, or both. Since I had done neither, I was seen as an outsider the day I walked in the door. I would have had to find someone from another school to date and if I did and my fellow students found out, I was afraid if I did find someone, they'd torment her as well.

In college, it didn't work either because I didn't like to do the things college students my age did, like club and bar hopping, partying in general, going to football games, concerts, I basically didn't like activities where everyone acts crazy. In addition, I had my sister digging in my business all the time, and her and our parents ganging up on me to force me to socialize her way. Even if I could have found a girlfriend, I'd have had to keep her away from my sister because every time I made a friend, if she got near them, she'd manipulate them into being her friend and to push me off to the side. I learned to either have few friends or keep them away from her when I could.

Where I lived after graduating, the culture was all drinking, partying, etc., so again, I couldn't find anyone I really wanted to go out with, so I was again locked out. I could have possibly tried to fake me way into that culture, but it just wasn't me. I decided not dating or having much of a social life was the price I had to pay for just being myself. I refused to forget who I am, and still do.

At 28, I ended up meeting someone online who lived in another state. We wrote back and forth for a year and a half then decided to finally meet. 4 years after that we got married and it's been a great 7 years. It hasn't been easy, but it has worked out.

What I'm saying is there is hope for us all.

Sorry to bring up an old thread like this, but I'm glad to say the trip went really well! Despite a week-long snowstorm having begun as I arrived there, we got along great. Even when waiting half an hour, in 17°F, for a taxi home from a grocery shopping expedition. Once the snow began to clear, we got out and about, galavanting around various neighbourhoods and restaurants by trolleybus. We had a blast! At the end of my trip it was really hard to have to come back home. Oh! and by the way, we're engaged. Tentative wedding date's June 27.

Don't kiss on the first date

the next time you meet she will be all over you

It's all very scary; the shitstorm reference is a good one.

I've only once kissed someone I loved (it felt like prepping myself for jumping off a cliff with no parachute and praying God caught me before I hit the bottom), the other times were meaningless and thus easy.

Out of the countless times i've kissed girls, i've never been slapped.

I think a turn of the cheek is pretty much the worst you'll encounter and then you still end up kissing her, but not on the lips.

I've never slapped a guy. I've only punched, kicked and scratched.

On the one and only official 'in a relationship' date I've been on, at the end we were just standing around and we were talking about what to do. Having absolutely no experience kissing, I just graped her and brought her towards me and kissed her on the lips. It was probably the most unromantic kiss ever...

Fast forward a couple of days when we were doing stuff with friends, she was noticeably cold and distant to me, and she ended it that night.

I don't know if the kiss ended the relationship, but I don't think it helped.

Alex the pimp, good job!