Why do people let themselves go?

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17 Mar 2009, 6:59 pm

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But being obese is not only very unnatractive, its very unhealthy. If you feel physically well that helps your mental side. Some people look natural with a bit of extra weight and its suits them. Being too skiny is obviously bad too. I think people who are saying looks aren't important, are kidding themselves. I know personality is the most important thing. But I wouldn't touch my soulmate with a barge pole if she was built like a bus.
And that's your opinion. Just don't think for a second that you know how other people think based on what you think. There are guys out there that love obese women, and there are guys that hate it. There are just as many preferences as there are people on this planet. My preferences doesn't involve the body at all as long as it's female. Take it or leave it.


Yeah, those guys who go for obese women need to be sectioned.


That's rather offensive, that because someone else has different tastes then you that they should be 'sectioned'. There are people whose weight is within a "normal" range but who do not care for their hair or teeth; it is as subjective and arbitrary as any other bias.


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17 Mar 2009, 7:01 pm

Kenjuudo wrote:
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But being obese is not only very unnatractive, its very unhealthy. If you feel physically well that helps your mental side. Some people look natural with a bit of extra weight and its suits them. Being too skiny is obviously bad too. I think people who are saying looks aren't important, are kidding themselves. I know personality is the most important thing. But I wouldn't touch my soulmate with a barge pole if she was built like a bus.
And that's your opinion. Just don't think for a second that you know how other people think based on what you think. There are guys out there that love obese women, and there are guys that hate it. There are just as many preferences as there are people on this planet. My preferences doesn't involve the body at all as long as it's female. Take it or leave it.


I love your answers and your kind of cute too. You shouldn't have any trouble getting woman. You sound very sweet.


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17 Mar 2009, 7:30 pm

I'm overwieght for a few reasons. Due to my fibromyalgia and other health issues, exercising is very difficult and painful. Much more so than for normal people. I find it extremely boring and because the results happen over such a long period of time, I just don't have any motivation or interest to participate in it. I also like eating delicious food. I don't over eat, but the food I do eat probably wouldn't be considered as super healthy. It's one of my comforts/interests.

Now, I have family members that worry about my long term health so they try to get me to be better, but I'm just not interested. I don't really like my life and although I'm not suicidal by any means, I'm not interested in putting work into extending life. Especially if extending it means I have to make myself more unhappy by giving up good food and spending time exercising when I could be doing something I enjoy.



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17 Mar 2009, 7:41 pm

Can be tied with lack of motavation and depression.

I wouldn't judge people too harshly. You might be lucky enough to not have these problems to deal with but a lot of other people do.



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17 Mar 2009, 7:42 pm

Yeah, the same, if people stop making an effort in any way. I went on some meds too which made me gain weight quickly. That was one of the reasons I came off them, plus they weren't doing me any good. Maybe I have too much pride. But I just think I don't settle for anything but the best I can be.


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17 Mar 2009, 7:45 pm

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Yeah, the same, if people stop making an effort in any way. I went on some meds too which made me gain weight quickly. That was one of the reasons I came off them, plus they weren't doing me any good. Maybe I have too much pride. But I just think I don't settle for anything but the best I can be.


And that is an attitude of someone without the problems I listed. I only want to be the best I can be, but I cannot do it simply for those reasons sometimes.



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17 Mar 2009, 7:49 pm

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Maybe I have too much pride. But I just think I don't settle for anything but the best I can be.



Up until a year ago, I always stayed in really good shape. I remember having much more self-confidence when I was fit, and I'm pretty sure(actually I know it) that it's contributing to my depression. So I agree, fit is best. I was much happier when I was. Now, all I have to do is get off my ass and do it. :lol:


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17 Mar 2009, 7:56 pm

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I love your answers and your kind of cute too. You shouldn't have any trouble getting woman. You sound very sweet.
Thanks I guess. You are sweet too. :oops: I don't have any real trouble coming into contact with women either, but I'm not looking for anyone at the time being.


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17 Mar 2009, 7:57 pm

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Yeah, the same, if people stop making an effort in any way. I went on some meds too which made me gain weight quickly. That was one of the reasons I came off them, plus they weren't doing me any good. Maybe I have too much pride. But I just think I don't settle for anything but the best I can be.


And that is an attitude of someone without the problems I listed. I only want to be the best I can be, but I cannot do it simply for those reasons sometimes.


Lack of motivation and depression is just a temporary obsticle.


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17 Mar 2009, 8:11 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:
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Yeah, the same, if people stop making an effort in any way. I went on some meds too which made me gain weight quickly. That was one of the reasons I came off them, plus they weren't doing me any good. Maybe I have too much pride. But I just think I don't settle for anything but the best I can be.


And that is an attitude of someone without the problems I listed. I only want to be the best I can be, but I cannot do it simply for those reasons sometimes.


Lack of motivation and depression is just a temporary obsticle.


...for you. Depression and motivation are issues whose effects vary upon the individual; one cannot say that because they overcame something that another will also be able to, least not in the same way. Many things can be overcome in time, but again you are mistaking experience for fact.


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17 Mar 2009, 8:12 pm

I wouldn't change you for the world anyway Hale B, you're the type of girl that looks perfect as they are and natural.


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18 Mar 2009, 12:12 am

benjimanbreeg wrote:
Like getting overweight. Don't wash, shave etc. I noticed in a picture from last year that under my chin was getting fat, so i've been a lot more careful with what I eat and i'm doing even more cardio. I don't see how people can lose so much self repsect.


I think it has to do with motivation and apathy. Well people are motivated by something internal or external, they will strive to be a certain way to meet their expectations.

Example- You might internally be motivated to get in shape because you want to play a certain sport. Let's say you enjoy watching basketball and you admire the sport so much and you want to play it so much, that you're willing to workout and condition to just play the sport.

External motivation would be something that affects you, and in term, it makes you want to be a certain way. Let's say a mother has a 16 year old son who was a safe driver and drove out one night and got hit by a drunk driver and died. The mother, affected by the death of her son, might join M.A.D.D (Mothers against drunk driving) and therefore would be externally motivated to prevent the deaths of future young drivers.

I think the whole reason why people "let themselves go" is because of a lack of motivation, which is the result of low self esteem coupled with apathy.

Let me give you an example. I used to be in good shape, and I used to play football back in high school and I used to workout . As high school ended, I wasn't around my fellow peers anymore. I didn't interact with them, and I hardly had any friends anyways. My motivation to play football and to workout was because I could I look strong and impressive in front of others, I was externally motivated by the fact that people might think I was strong and tough. As that source of motivation disappeared , I stopped caring. "What's the point?" "Who will care?" "Who will notice?" I'm not in terrible shape, but I have let myself go a little bit. Also having poor self esteem, especially being autistic and having difficulty understanding people emotionally, led to my apathy. I have a hard time telling when someone is joking with me or is being a prick, and likewise, I get scared easily when confronted by something. So if I could sum it up:


It starts out like this:

Low Self Esteem = Motivation - Motivating Factor (unknown variable)

And the end equation is this:

Lack of Motivation = Low Self Esteem + Loss of Motivating Factor

And no, I did not read this out of a psychology book, this is strictly based up my circumstance and what I viewed as what occurred with me.



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18 Mar 2009, 4:02 am

makuranososhi wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
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Yeah, the same, if people stop making an effort in any way. I went on some meds too which made me gain weight quickly. That was one of the reasons I came off them, plus they weren't doing me any good. Maybe I have too much pride. But I just think I don't settle for anything but the best I can be.


And that is an attitude of someone without the problems I listed. I only want to be the best I can be, but I cannot do it simply for those reasons sometimes.


Lack of motivation and depression is just a temporary obsticle.


...for you. Depression and motivation are issues whose effects vary upon the individual; one cannot say that because they overcame something that another will also be able to, least not in the same way. Many things can be overcome in time, but again you are mistaking experience for fact.


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Obviously if its manic depression or clynical its a different story.


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18 Mar 2009, 5:03 am

benjimanbreeg wrote:
I wouldn't change you for the world anyway Hale B, you're the type of girl that looks perfect as they are and natural.


Actually there is a hell of a lot of room for improvement.



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18 Mar 2009, 6:53 am

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Why do people let themselves go?


well once i placed myself under a "citizens arrest", but because i could not find sufficient evidence to detain myself, i had to let myself go.

blast that.



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18 Mar 2009, 8:47 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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I wouldn't change you for the world anyway Hale B, you're the type of girl that looks perfect as they are and natural.


Actually there is a hell of a lot of room for improvement.


Well everyone thinks that about themselves.


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