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07 May 2009, 7:56 pm

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I hate these kind of pleasantries because that's all they are. They are clearly not true.


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It's a load of BS. Love is a fool's investment and a waste of time too.


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07 May 2009, 8:06 pm

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Bataar wrote:
I hate these kind of pleasantries because that's all they are. They are clearly not true.


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It's a load of BS. Love is a fool's investment and a waste of time too.

just throw this in there "it is better to have loved &lost than to have never loved at all"
i want to share my life & love with a lady, i am no fool :p nuff said



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07 May 2009, 8:57 pm

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Social_Fantom wrote:
Bataar wrote:
I hate these kind of pleasantries because that's all they are. They are clearly not true.


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It's a load of BS. Love is a fool's investment and a waste of time too.

just throw this in there "it is better to have loved &lost than to have never loved at all"
i want to share my life & love with a lady, i am no fool :p nuff said

That's debatable as well. Personally, I'd rather not know what I'm missing out on if it's all it's cracked up to be.



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07 May 2009, 9:10 pm

yeah it's all debatable, i certainly have moments of folly too..
i think my reasons for pursuing love are not so foolish but hey, maybe they are..
maybe i'm just being irrationally optimistic.
i would love to meet a female who wants to be with me, to share music & "stuff"( i'm tired :p ) & to hopefully raise a child..
& i "feel" there is "someone" out there for me.. i still don't think the pursuit of love is foolish, the pursuit of war is foolish, but love? :(



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07 May 2009, 9:14 pm

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yeah it's all debatable, i certainly have moments of folly too..
i think my reasons for pursuing love are not so foolish but hey, maybe they are..
maybe i'm just being irrationally optimistic.
i would love to meet a female who wants to be with me, to share music & "stuff"( i'm tired :p ) & to hopefully raise a child..
& i "feel" there is "someone" out there for me.. i still don't think the pursuit of love is foolish, the pursuit of war is foolish, but love? :(

I'm just a total realist with a hint of pessimism. I see no evidence that I will ever meet someone to love, therefore, it seems foolish to hope for it because all I'm doing then is setting myself up for disappointment. The way I live my life is not conducive to meeting women. When I look at what's required to meet women (in general), it's not something I'm interested in doing. A definition of insanity is to do the same thing but expect different results. I am clearly not insane because I do not expect different results in this regard.



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07 May 2009, 9:25 pm

i didn't mean to question your sanity.. you seem to be coming at the topic with a logical angle & i can't really argue.. i'm single & things look pretty sh*t for me regarding girlfriends..
i think i loved someone once & they suddenly stopped communicating, it hurt & confused me & i'm still not entirely over it despite only knowing them online.. but i haven't given up hope.. no real logic there i guess i'm a bit of a "romantic"
obviously i don't know your situation at all but i wish you luck in love, if you want it & a happy life, whether you want it or not :p lol i'm getting distracted now sorry.



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07 May 2009, 9:25 pm

i didn't mean to question your sanity.. you seem to be coming at the topic with a logical angle & i can't really argue.. i'm single & things look pretty sh*t for me regarding girlfriends..
i think i loved someone once & they suddenly stopped communicating, it hurt & confused me & i'm still not entirely over it despite only knowing them online.. but i haven't given up hope.. no real logic there i guess i'm a bit of a "romantic"
obviously i don't know your situation at all but i wish you luck in love, if you want it & a happy life, whether you want it or not :p lol i'm getting distracted now sorry.



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07 May 2009, 9:26 pm

i didn't mean to question your sanity.. you seem to be coming at the topic with a logical angle & i can't really argue.. i'm single & things look pretty sh*t for me regarding girlfriends..
i think i loved someone once & they suddenly stopped communicating, it hurt & confused me & i'm still not entirely over it despite only knowing them online.. but i haven't given up hope.. no real logic there i guess i'm a bit of a "romantic"
obviously i don't know your situation at all but i wish you luck in love, if you want it & a happy life, whether you want it or not :p lol i'm getting distracted now sorry.



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07 May 2009, 9:27 pm

ahh sorry i didn't mean to spam the thread, my ps3 froze :(



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07 May 2009, 9:53 pm

Yeah.

'Fell in love' once, with a guy I dreamt about before. I still feel we're soul mates--I've never known anyone like him. But, alas, he's gay and moved on, and I'm not. I still feel him every waking moment, and it's driving me to suicidal thoughts on a level never before seen.

So, when someone says to move on, I want to pop them in the jaw, but instead I have to explain this isn't the normal misery.

Love, to me, is everything. Love for friends, family, and mates. My mate is central to my life, however, because it's there life begins. A partnership is what I need, as does any human; our brains and bodies are designed for it, whatever we like to tell ourselves. Unless something drastically changes, this will be the way. And it's also why I endorse people work through things before leaving them altogether. There are very few reasons I leave anything, and it's pretty much never happened.

But, as it is, people don't work through things. There's so much uncertainty in the world, we're all scared on some level, and I believe we're also all very lonely in our own way. People don't connect like they used to, and even then, I doubt it was that great. We're all becoming isolated and relationships are floating in the downward spiral, it seems.

I know you're pain, Angel. I'm in it right now, and it's agonizing. It's the worst pain I've ever felt, and that's saying quite a lot. I would really like to never feel this again, but I'm sure I won't stop feeling it now. This is a pain which will always ache deeply upon remembering what was lost, what could have been, what we were. I will always look for him in everyone I see, yet I'll never find him.



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07 May 2009, 10:03 pm

Fudo wrote:
just throw this in there "it is better to have loved &lost than to have never loved at all"
i want to share my life & love with a lady, i am no fool :p nuff said


It's kind of hard for me to look at it any other way. I have loved and always lost. I have never found happiness in love, only pain and sadness.

Good luck to you but I don't want something that only causes me pain and no joy anymore.


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07 May 2009, 10:12 pm

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i didn't mean to question your sanity.. you seem to be coming at the topic with a logical angle & i can't really argue.. i'm single & things look pretty sh*t for me regarding girlfriends..
i think i loved someone once & they suddenly stopped communicating, it hurt & confused me & i'm still not entirely over it despite only knowing them online.. but i haven't given up hope.. no real logic there i guess i'm a bit of a "romantic"
obviously i don't know your situation at all but i wish you luck in love, if you want it & a happy life, whether you want it or not :p lol i'm getting distracted now sorry.

I know you weren't questioning my sanity. I was just trying to show that expecting/hoping for love would indicate insanity on my part.



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07 May 2009, 10:35 pm

kk well i'm sorry you feel that way, or that things have happened quite as they have.. i guess there's no reason i should hope for love, in that i've always ended up alone.. but i don't like being alone.. i spend far too much time alone etc. anyways i'll let you know if i find a "soulmate" :p i'm optimistic to the extreme today :)



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07 May 2009, 10:42 pm

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kk well i'm sorry you feel that way, or that things have happened quite as they have.. i guess there's no reason i should hope for love, in that i've always ended up alone.. but i don't like being alone.. i spend far too much time alone etc. anyways i'll let you know if i find a "soulmate" :p i'm optimistic to the extreme today :)

I don't like being alone either, but I just don't have a viable way to change it. Everyone says to be yourself and to find and pursue your interests, hobbies, etc. I do all of those things and it hasn't worked. There are no women at all where I work. At my group's board game night there are no women. At my fishing club, there are no single women (sometimes various guys will bring their wife, but that's it). When I go fishing, there are no women. When I was practicing martial arts, there were no available women in my classes. Now that I'm working a swing/second shift, it's even more of a long shot because I'm not available in evenings. I would love to have someone to cuddle up with to watch the latest episode of Lost or to experiment with and cook new dishes or types of foods, but there's just no viable way to make it happen.



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08 May 2009, 3:42 am

Social_Fantom wrote:
It's a load of BS. Love is a fool's investment and a waste of time too.


Which is exactly why I - throughout my entire life - have never bothered trying to find a significant other.
I find the vast majority of people in general to be extremely shallow, immature & stupid (among other things). Therefore, I have long ago deemed the vast majority of women completely unworthy of my time.
I have far better and more important things to do than suffer through mountains of BS & drama just for the sake of one person. Love is a serious waste of my time.


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08 May 2009, 7:44 am

EnigmaticPhilosophy wrote:
Social_Fantom wrote:
It's a load of BS. Love is a fool's investment and a waste of time too.


Which is exactly why I - throughout my entire life - have never bothered trying to find a significant other.
I find the vast majority of people in general to be extremely shallow, immature & stupid (among other things). Therefore, I have long ago deemed the vast majority of women completely unworthy of my time.
I have far better and more important things to do than suffer through mountains of BS & drama just for the sake of one person. Love is a serious waste of my time.

do you honestly believe women are unworthy of your time? maybe it's good you're not interested, as i'm fairly certain most women wouldn't tolerate such an attitude..