finding girls online - futile?

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16 May 2009, 7:31 pm

Learning2Survive wrote:
ok even if I meet a girl online and we like talking to each other so much we want to meet
say we meet and we like each other and decide to be girlfriend/boy friend
if the girl lives more than 2hrs of driving from where i live
if she lives in another state - it's futile
i would have to move and leave my family here and find a job and a place to live where the girl is
and if that did not work out i would have to go back having spent a few grand on the whole thing

what do u think about it? it all depends if you can freely move to another state or country, if you have money for the ticket, rent, and car, if u can leave your family, and if u can find a job there.


Well, I too think you have pretty much answered your own question. That is, spending money to go to a place and set yourself up there, leaving family and friends, and starting again job-wise in another place is a huge risk to take for something that's likely to fail.

I can't help but think it's likely to fail because what are the chances that the girl is cheating on you online with somebody else? They can do that a lot more easily online than they can in your community. Online, they can hide it no problem.

When I used to talk to girls online there was a pattern that those I managed to connect with were in the smallest, most remote towns in the most conservative areas of the US. They lived in an extremely low local population base and I have had to realise they were only making connections online because they were in the most isolating social circumstances.

That suggests they were simply talking to whoever they could get, because their population base was low enough for them to turn to the Internet for fulfilling social contact. ANY bigger (or ANY more liberal) and they'd get that in their own communities.

There is still ONE remnant of this, one girl I am still in touch with online. She's in an extremely remote small town in Mississippi. Not just an extremely low local population base, but particularly conservative (and she IS conservative herself). I cannot see the point in making all that effort to go over there for the likelihood that meeting a person from online would not work out. It seems that I am in her plans for the fuure, although I'm a lot more realistic and have said I wouldn't be going over there any time soon. I'm just not comfortable with that, and as was suggested it's better having these people as penpals instead of you or your partner excruciating yourselves by feeling set up for romantic disappointment.



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16 May 2009, 9:46 pm

AutisticMalcontent wrote:
Learning2Survive wrote:
ok even if I meet a girl online and we like talking to each other so much we want to meet
say we meet and we like each other and decide to be girlfriend/boy friend
if the girl lives more than 2hrs of driving from where i live
if she lives in another state - it's futile
i would have to move and leave my family here and find a job and a place to live where the girl is
and if that did not work out i would have to go back having spent a few grand on the whole thing

what do u think about it? it all depends if you can freely move to another state or country, if you have money for the ticket, rent, and car, if u can leave your family, and if u can find a job there.


I'll be perfectly blunt with you, man, online is not the way to meet girls and have romantic relationships. I'm saying this as someone who has been on many dating sites, both free ones and ones you have to pay for.

I've found that online dating is virtually pointless and futile. The likelihood of having a girl talk to you is very rare, even rarer if she has any interest in you. The truth is that I think a lot of girls who join these dating sites really have no intention of dating. They say they are interested in meeting nice guys and trying something new, but the truth is that they a.) have the stiff upper lip the size of China and are as arrogant as can be b.) are not willing to take a chance of letting you get close to them or c.) have no attraction to you and thus ignore you.

Now, if your hypothetical scenario is correct, and you did chat with a girl online who lives two hours away, I must say that it simply isn't worth the risks that you seem to be in consideration of taking, like: "moving and leaving my family here and finding a job and a place to live where this girl is"

You must consider that it will not work out, and if so, you have wasted a lot of time and effort into your endeavor.

I've been single 22 years now, and like I said, I've tried ALL kinds of dating sites, with no success whatsoever. I've tried everything to initiate conversation, with no success. Amidst all the failed attempts, I met one of my friend's girl friend (not gf), and we have really hit it off well, to the point where when she dumps her bf, she'll date me. I guess the lesson is to find girls locally, and to be patient, you'll never know who you will meet and how it work out :wink: :) Good luck, man.


Most people (men and women) that use online match maker sites choose people based on their looks for the most part. It don't matter how good of personality you have, if you don't look good. I would say I am average in the looks department, and when I tried online dating, I never had any success.

I agree with you that it is best to meet women in person. For one thing, there is only so much you can learn about someone, talking to them online. Secondly, people will get to know and like the real you, not judge you based on your looks only.



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16 May 2009, 10:02 pm

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I don't know.

From my experience finding girls online is tough, but finding a girl IRL who would be interested in me is even more futile :cry:

Does anyone know of any single decent-looking girls based in SW Ohio who don't smoke, who like video-games and prog rock, and who would be interested in an Aspie geek like me? Because I sure couldn't find any around... :(

Tim (aka the Slipperman)


I'm in SW ohio too, I'll keep my eyes peeled. :wink:



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18 May 2009, 1:42 am

Learning2Survive wrote:
what do u think about it? it all depends if you can freely move to another state or country, if you have money for the ticket, rent, and car, if u can leave your family, and if u can find a job there.

I think meeting girls online sucks... especially for younger guys. The young guys who have a lot of success online are guys who typically have a lot of success without the internet, which is a problem because why would you be on there anyways if you could just meet someone. Maybe it would be easier when you're a little older and more established, you might attract more women, and a more mature variety.



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18 May 2009, 9:29 am

AutisticMalcontent wrote:
Learning2Survive wrote:
ok even if I meet a girl online and we like talking to each other so much we want to meet
say we meet and we like each other and decide to be girlfriend/boy friend
if the girl lives more than 2hrs of driving from where i live
if she lives in another state - it's futile
i would have to move and leave my family here and find a job and a place to live where the girl is
and if that did not work out i would have to go back having spent a few grand on the whole thing

what do u think about it? it all depends if you can freely move to another state or country, if you have money for the ticket, rent, and car, if u can leave your family, and if u can find a job there.


I'll be perfectly blunt with you, man, online is not the way to meet girls and have romantic relationships. I'm saying this as someone who has been on many dating sites, both free ones and ones you have to pay for.

I've found that online dating is virtually pointless and futile. The likelihood of having a girl talk to you is very rare, even rarer if she has any interest in you. The truth is that I think a lot of girls who join these dating sites really have no intention of dating. They say they are interested in meeting nice guys and trying something new, but the truth is that they a.) have the stiff upper lip the size of China and are as arrogant as can be b.) are not willing to take a chance of letting you get close to them or c.) have no attraction to you and thus ignore you.

Now, if your hypothetical scenario is correct, and you did chat with a girl online who lives two hours away, I must say that it simply isn't worth the risks that you seem to be in consideration of taking, like: "moving and leaving my family here and finding a job and a place to live where this girl is"

You must consider that it will not work out, and if so, you have wasted a lot of time and effort into your endeavor.

I've been single 22 years now, and like I said, I've tried ALL kinds of dating sites, with no success whatsoever. I've tried everything to initiate conversation, with no success. Amidst all the failed attempts, I met one of my friend's girl friend (not gf), and we have really hit it off well, to the point where when she dumps her bf, she'll date me. I guess the lesson is to find girls locally, and to be patient, you'll never know who you will meet and how it work out :wink: :) Good luck, man.


I beg to differ; I'm a girl, on dating sites, on the net, and actually have met ppl and had relationships 8)



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18 May 2009, 12:54 pm

You're a girl though... 90% of the people on dating sites are guys. For girls, yes, it would be a great way to meet people.



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23 May 2009, 2:38 am

Why would you immediately leave your job and family if you are not even sure that the relationship will last?
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23 May 2009, 3:37 am

I personally don't believe in online dating, but I'm probably old fashioned. Online penpals is great, meeting up eventually with online penpals - sure! But I don't believe you should consider dating someone you've never met face to face. I would only consider dating a person if I had spent time with them in the real world.

Of course, that's my personal opinion on the matter, and I don't deny that there are many very happy people who found their soul-mates on the net. Each to their own. :P


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25 May 2009, 3:07 am

lisa81 wrote:
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
Learning2Survive wrote:
ok even if I meet a girl online and we like talking to each other so much we want to meet
say we meet and we like each other and decide to be girlfriend/boy friend
if the girl lives more than 2hrs of driving from where i live
if she lives in another state - it's futile
i would have to move and leave my family here and find a job and a place to live where the girl is
and if that did not work out i would have to go back having spent a few grand on the whole thing

what do u think about it? it all depends if you can freely move to another state or country, if you have money for the ticket, rent, and car, if u can leave your family, and if u can find a job there.


I'll be perfectly blunt with you, man, online is not the way to meet girls and have romantic relationships. I'm saying this as someone who has been on many dating sites, both free ones and ones you have to pay for.

I've found that online dating is virtually pointless and futile. The likelihood of having a girl talk to you is very rare, even rarer if she has any interest in you. The truth is that I think a lot of girls who join these dating sites really have no intention of dating. They say they are interested in meeting nice guys and trying something new, but the truth is that they a.) have the stiff upper lip the size of China and are as arrogant as can be b.) are not willing to take a chance of letting you get close to them or c.) have no attraction to you and thus ignore you.

Now, if your hypothetical scenario is correct, and you did chat with a girl online who lives two hours away, I must say that it simply isn't worth the risks that you seem to be in consideration of taking, like: "moving and leaving my family here and finding a job and a place to live where this girl is"

You must consider that it will not work out, and if so, you have wasted a lot of time and effort into your endeavor.

I've been single 22 years now, and like I said, I've tried ALL kinds of dating sites, with no success whatsoever. I've tried everything to initiate conversation, with no success. Amidst all the failed attempts, I met one of my friend's girl friend (not gf), and we have really hit it off well, to the point where when she dumps her bf, she'll date me. I guess the lesson is to find girls locally, and to be patient, you'll never know who you will meet and how it work out :wink: :) Good luck, man.


I beg to differ; I'm a girl, on dating sites, on the net, and actually have met ppl and had relationships 8)


Like Space said, your a girl. Enough said.



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25 May 2009, 3:11 am

As with resistance, it is futile. :twisted:



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04 Jun 2009, 8:05 pm

Giving up would be the thing that would be futile.



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04 Jun 2009, 8:08 pm

Kangoogle wrote:
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i dont think its better to be safe than sorry.
i moved to germany to be with my wife(granted we were together for 3 years) things didn't work out and we split up. i'm still in germany.
i cant say things are great but im glad im here. i'm glad that i am the sort of person that can put my faith in love and to not be destroyed when it doesn't work out. i think people that you love and have a connection with are worth the risk.

Exactly. The level of defeatism, can't dos and won't dos that the people on this site come up with are astounding. Maybe certain members would whine a lot less if they would cross a boundary now and then.


My sentiments exactly.



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04 Jun 2009, 8:31 pm

Finding girls online futile? - Yes
in real life futile - not futile though extremely difficult


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05 Jun 2009, 5:43 am

If you want to attract a mate you find desirable, you have to be the kind of mate they would find desirable. If you are desired for your weaknesses or the mask you put on to cover your weaknesses, the relationship is starting out in a very precarious position. If you have deficiencies in your ability to engage in interpersonal relationships, an environment hyper focused on social interaction is not going to show you in a good light. This would be dating sites and other activities with an emphasis on being single.

Finding a romantic relationship is about not looking for one. Look for friends. Engage in activities you are interested in with others who are interested in them. Join a club or hobbyist organization, a sporting league. You will get introduced to people in a setting you are hopefully more comfortable with, doing things you enjoy. You will get practice at small talk. You may establish you have other shared interests with one or more in the group. Your relationship with these people begins to grow beyond the shared group bond and some of them you may find yourself in a romantic relationship with.

As your pool of friends grows, your social network expands. Your friend knows this girl at work who they want to introduce you to. Allow yourself to be set up, I won't lie to you a lot of the matchmaking is likely to be bad matches. But you will continue to grow and your friends will hopefully get better at predicting compatible personalities for you.

A big part of interpersonal relations, whether it is making a new friend or talking to an old one, asking a girl out or saying good night to your wife, is the confidence with which you carry yourself. People find it hard to trust people that don't trust themselves whether they know that is why or not. When they are engaged by somebody that displays confidence of self and empathize with the speaker as they hear their words, they believe what the speaker says they believe. That empathy will keep them from dismissing you outright. If your rhetoric is sound, an open empathic listener will be swayed.



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05 Jun 2009, 9:05 am

My question is answered!

You can find a girl online, but it will take a long time looking, it's risky, she is likely to be unattractive or to have problems, and the Internet is not a place where people go to find long term relationships. That is why online friends tend to disappear after a few weeks. Instead of sitting at home, addicted to the computer, stop trying to incorporate your need for sex and a relationship into your computer addiction. You should walk out of the house, find friends, invite them to your apartment, go to parties, talk to people, and learn small talk, and find a girl friend in real life.


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05 Jun 2009, 2:30 pm

Since nobody near me has the characteristics I am looking for (Aspie, Christian, preferably voting Republican, likes the Simpsons and South Park), I have no choice but to travel.

However, it's always the other person who has a problem with dating someone outside their immediate area.

Yet, I can't be held responsible if the San Antonio-Austin metro area is completely devoid of the type of person I am looking for.