How to recognize when a girl is flirting with you?
I have accepted that I just can't. So I can tell how I deal with it. Perhaps you find it useful. If I suspect that a girl is interested (and I'm interested too, of course) I use the following steps.
1. Trying to get one or two dates. If she is interested in you, she'll agree. But that doesn't mean that she wants something more: she could just want to enjoy some time with a friend.
During the date, if you're not good at flirting, then just have fun. If both of you are having a good time, well, at least you won't screw it up (that is important).
2. Trying to take the situation to a 'kiss situation'. The easiest way I have found is to date during the weekend, so you can stay awake until late. Then show your will to continue even if it's late, but don't force her. If she likes you, she'll probably agree.
3. Then, when it comes to a situation like "It's one or two in the morning, after midnight, we're sitting in the couch and talking, or we're in a pub sitting close and talking" then I consider that the probabilities of she wanting something more are high and I make advancements (and here you have to take risks and jump, there's no easier way).
Good luck.
Secondly, observe her behavior around you, looking for clusters of 3 - 5 indicators. For instance, if she plays with her hair, stands up straight, touches you, bites/sucks on her lower lip, plays with her lips with her fingers, directs her knee towards you with crossed legs, lets her shoe slip on and off, odds are its safe to hit on her.
Of course, this isn't an exact science, but then again with extreme risk aversion comes never getting laid. Really, in 50 - 60 years when you're in your late 80s or something, are you really going to regret getting shot down by some woman you can't even remember back in your 20s?
So, observation for some days then. Did that once. Although I do not know the inferences I drew were right or wrong. Although, I had not read/known about any of the signs to watch out for. BTW, this is one of the girls who I think was flirting with me.
You do have a point about regret.
Yeah I know a lot of girls who are like that. I'm just not one of them. I never had to be. I always thought I was but when it came down to it, I found out I'm not! I am quite persistent though and I usually get what I want that way.
It's one of those differences between men and women, a man doing the same would often be seen as needy, desperate and stalker/creepy.
I agree when guys do such a thing its not just frowned upon! It interpreted as needy, desperate, stalker, creepy, looser etc.
I agree with Aspie men need help earlier on in the encounter. I doubt about presume many of them wouldn't be single. Aspie men would probably find more dates. But many turning into a couple is very unlikely I guess.
It's unlikely that you've only been flirted with twice in the past two years if you're a decent looking and acting guy. Girls flirt a lot in subtle ways so that they don't have to feel rejected if the guy isn't interested.
I looked into some pickup artistry stuff a year or so ago and found that it worked very well (I picked up my first girlfriend less than a week after making a major purchase), but found that I didn't enjoy relationships in which I had to stress out a lot about trying to interpret things that a girl says/does.
If a girl isn't willing to be more direct with you and forgive you for honest mistakes, then she isn't worth it. PERIOD. If she expects anything else then she is expecting you to act like something you're not and she doesn't love you.
I would rather be alone than deal with the majority of women, but luckily for me (this is very lucky for autistic men as there are about 3 autistic men for every woman), I found an autistic girl who likes me. And I don't have to worry about any of this s**t anymore. I've forgotten most of it on purpose because I find it so distasteful.
I will still post some basic advice I remember about girls:
Always be confident (or if you're like me when I first started trying to figure this stuff out, get rejected so frequently that you didn't care anymore so that the girls mistook your indifference for confidence) Confident body language involves eye contact (maybe 2/3 of the time, more when listening) and facing towards them with open body posture
It's harder to talk to a girl if you're focused on making her like you rather than carrying on the conversation (this was always difficult for me because most women are boring) because it makes you nervous and might make the girl suspicious.
Listen to what she says
Introduce yourself to girls you don't know
Ask/say situationally dependent questions/statements with emotional relevance to get a conversation started. This actually goes with everybody: NT talk to exchange emotional information, which is why it doesn't make any god damn sense.
There is nothing wrong with being direct so long as you're not crude ("Imma f**k your buttcheeks" takes a lot of skill to pull off with a woman who doesn't already like you)
Girls like to be teased. However you must make sure that you use the correct voice intonation and body language while teasing or they will think you're mean. If you didn't do it right then you can just tell them that you were teasing with what I would guess would be your usual monotone and they would probably think that was funny.
Use friendly body language (the details are every bit as complicated as the grammar of spoken languages)
People feel attached to people they are similar to, so sharing a similar opinion/experience is good
Lead the conversation/interaction with girls. You can figure out what she wants by making suggestions or just asking what she wants if she doesn't like any of them, but girls like it when you take the initiative and make the final choice.
To avoid getting rejected, girls will often state a desire rather than flat out tell you what they want. For instance "I'm hungry = take me somewhere to eat." "I'm tired = take me home"
Pretend like you know what you're doing
I looked into some pickup artistry stuff a year or so ago and found that it worked very well (I picked up my first girlfriend less than a week after making a major purchase), but found that I didn't enjoy relationships in which I had to stress out a lot about trying to interpret things that a girl says/does.
If a girl isn't willing to be more direct with you and forgive you for honest mistakes, then she isn't worth it. PERIOD. If she expects anything else then she is expecting you to act like something you're not and she doesn't love you.
I would rather be alone than deal with the majority of women, but luckily for me (this is very lucky for autistic men as there are about 3 autistic men for every woman), I found an autistic girl who likes me. And I don't have to worry about any of this sh** anymore. I've forgotten most of it on purpose because I find it so distasteful.
I will still post some basic advice I remember about girls:
Always be confident (or if you're like me when I first started trying to figure this stuff out, get rejected so frequently that you didn't care anymore so that the girls mistook your indifference for confidence) Confident body language involves eye contact (maybe 2/3 of the time, more when listening) and facing towards them with open body posture
It's harder to talk to a girl if you're focused on making her like you rather than carrying on the conversation (this was always difficult for me because most women are boring) because it makes you nervous and might make the girl suspicious.
Listen to what she says
Introduce yourself to girls you don't know
Ask/say situationally dependent questions/statements with emotional relevance to get a conversation started. This actually goes with everybody: NT talk to exchange emotional information, which is why it doesn't make any god damn sense.
There is nothing wrong with being direct so long as you're not crude ("Imma f**k your buttcheeks" takes a lot of skill to pull off with a woman who doesn't already like you)
Girls like to be teased. However you must make sure that you use the correct voice intonation and body language while teasing or they will think you're mean. If you didn't do it right then you can just tell them that you were teasing with what I would guess would be your usual monotone and they would probably think that was funny.
Use friendly body language (the details are every bit as complicated as the grammar of spoken languages)
People feel attached to people they are similar to, so sharing a similar opinion/experience is good
Lead the conversation/interaction with girls. You can figure out what she wants by making suggestions or just asking what she wants if she doesn't like any of them, but girls like it when you take the initiative and make the final choice.
To avoid getting rejected, girls will often state a desire rather than flat out tell you what they want. For instance "I'm hungry = take me somewhere to eat." "I'm tired = take me home"
Pretend like you know what you're doing
I looked into some pickup artistry stuff a year or so ago and found that it worked very well (I picked up my first girlfriend less than a week after making a major purchase), but found that I didn't enjoy relationships in which I had to stress out a lot about trying to interpret things that a girl says/does.
If a girl isn't willing to be more direct with you and forgive you for honest mistakes, then she isn't worth it. PERIOD. If she expects anything else then she is expecting you to act like something you're not and she doesn't love you.
I would rather be alone than deal with the majority of women, but luckily for me (this is very lucky for autistic men as there are about 3 autistic men for every woman), I found an autistic girl who likes me. And I don't have to worry about any of this sh** anymore. I've forgotten most of it on purpose because I find it so distasteful.
I will still post some basic advice I remember about girls:
Always be confident (or if you're like me when I first started trying to figure this stuff out, get rejected so frequently that you didn't care anymore so that the girls mistook your indifference for confidence) Confident body language involves eye contact (maybe 2/3 of the time, more when listening) and facing towards them with open body posture
It's harder to talk to a girl if you're focused on making her like you rather than carrying on the conversation (this was always difficult for me because most women are boring) because it makes you nervous and might make the girl suspicious.
Listen to what she says
Introduce yourself to girls you don't know
Ask/say situationally dependent questions/statements with emotional relevance to get a conversation started. This actually goes with everybody: NT talk to exchange emotional information, which is why it doesn't make any god damn sense.
There is nothing wrong with being direct so long as you're not crude ("Imma f**k your buttcheeks" takes a lot of skill to pull off with a woman who doesn't already like you)
Girls like to be teased. However you must make sure that you use the correct voice intonation and body language while teasing or they will think you're mean. If you didn't do it right then you can just tell them that you were teasing with what I would guess would be your usual monotone and they would probably think that was funny.
Use friendly body language (the details are every bit as complicated as the grammar of spoken languages)
People feel attached to people they are similar to, so sharing a similar opinion/experience is good
Lead the conversation/interaction with girls. You can figure out what she wants by making suggestions or just asking what she wants if she doesn't like any of them, but girls like it when you take the initiative and make the final choice.
To avoid getting rejected, girls will often state a desire rather than flat out tell you what they want. For instance "I'm hungry = take me somewhere to eat." "I'm tired = take me home"
Pretend like you know what you're doing
Great advice.
I agree with Aspie men need help earlier on in the encounter. I doubt about presume many of them wouldn't be single. Aspie men would probably find more dates. But many turning into a couple is very unlikely I guess.
If you happen to be me, then yeah, she's probably flirting with you.
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[/quote]It's great that you found an autistic girl who understands you.Congrats! I think the advice you give is overall good but not sure if all of it applies to men with AS.I know as an Aspie male I don't think I will ever give off the aura of being ''confident'',I am too shy and socially awkward to appear confident.I am only speculating but perhaps your autistic girlfriend was very sympathetic to your inherent traits which made you two compatible.I can't act like a ''player'' I can only hope the qualities that I do have such as :honesty,shy,avoids the spotlight will one day be attractive to the right woman for me .[/quote]
Yea, the fact that I fit well with the autistic girl I met is one of the points of the post. I don't have to worry about that player stuff anymore and I'm so much happier than I was before. And as for being confident, you can always put on the appearance of confidence if you practice and have enough incentive. Whether or not you're willing to put in the time and effort is an entirely different issue (and you being willing to do it doesn't necessarily mean that you would think it was worth it once you had done it).
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