Why is chivalry good for anyone?

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You're missing the point. I'm not saying it's not polite to hold the door for people, or that people should just be rude.
What I am saying is that it's polite for ANYONE to hold the door for the people behind them if they get there first, or if the other person gets there first.
Chivalrous behaviour dictates that only men do this for women. This is stupid. Courtesy applies to everyone.

Honestly I don't fall on one side of the liberal/conservative dichotomy, my political activism has been pretty far outside of liberal or conservative beliefs.

I don't see what this has to do with politics either, I'm not sure why it's "liberal" to talk about sexism.

I'm completely comfortable with a man holding open a door for me, but I don't think he should feel obligated to go out of his way for me, and disregard other able-bodied males. What makes me uncomfortable is when a guy won't walk through a door that I'm holding open and tries to maneuver behind me to grab the door and insist I go through first. This indicates to me he sees something wrong with having a door held for him, yet feels obligated to do exactly that for me.

It tells me he sees me as quite different than himself, and I've heard some men admit it's demeaning to have women hold a door or offer to carry things for them.

I give them the benefit of the doubt and refer to it as benevolent sexism, because I think they are doing what they think is right/proper etc. but it still alienates me and others. If I'm having trouble with something and someone helps me, I appreciate that. If I'm in front of you and you rush ahead of me to open a door for me, that's weird, and if you won't go through a door I'm holding, I'm uncomfortable with that. I'm VERY uncomfortable when men become hostile because I keep saying "No, I'm already holding the door, just go" and they act like I'm doing something very wrong or inappropriate.

Manners and politeness are greatly appreciated, selective manners and politeness are symptomatic of a bigger problem I have with society that I like to talk about because awareness of it matters to me. If people don't agree with me, so be it.

However, when it's countered with "Why aren't you tolerating me?" I have to ask myself if this person is even being serious. These discussions aren't oppressing or silencing anyone, to behave as if the mere mention of different views is oppressive to other people's view is a childish way to go about ending these discussions.

These pretty well sum up what I think.

Yes if I were talking about holding the door behind you, it would be stupid to not apply it to everyone, because that does apply. What I am talking about is when a man and woman approach a door and get there at the same time, the man opens the door and holds it for the woman. That is holding a door, not holding it behind you, which is what I'd think pretty much everyone does for everyone else. I'm talking about opening it for someone.

I know of no behavior code that allows you to walk through one of those doors like stores have and not hold it behind you for others who are coming in. I don't think you have a clue as to what exact manners we are talking about here sweetie.

It would also look pretty silly if when I gave a guy a ride in my car I walked around to the passenger side with him and opened the door and shut it after him, wouldn't it? But that is mannerly for a man to do for a woman where I come from. It's just freaking manners.

But WHY does it have to be the man holding the door for the woman? Why make a special point of it?
WHY is it good manners for a man to make a point of opening a woman's car door for her, but silly for a woman to do the same for him?

You can keep repeating "it's just manners", but no matter how many times you do, that won't answer my question.

Holding a door is ok, but opening a woman's car door for her? That's really silly.

You have legs? You have hands? You can move? Good, then open your damn car door or GTFU

Yes, guys and girls should behave exactly the same!




NOT

Boo, would you let me hold a door for you?

Aw

Sure why not.

*opens door to hell*

LET'S PARTY

I smell BBQ and vodka inside.

YAY! LET'S FEAST!! !

How is expecting liberal to acknowledge and accept that others think differently than they do hypocrisy? My guess is it's more childish insults. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a chance to explain yourself. But I don't care to exchange silly insults with you.

I will have to give you credit though: At least you admit your intolerance and bigotry toward those who are different.

Awesome, thank you. Despite the intolerance of liberals, there still are decent people left who are willing to live and let live. I could care less how liberals wish to live their lives; that is up to them. It's a shame liberals can't say the same. Maybe one day liberals will understand what they are doing and dispense with their predatory hate and intolerance toward those who see things differently than they do. But I'm not holding my breath.

So hell DOES smell like Texas

That's funny, I always felt it was conservatives who tell everyone else how to behave. They interfere with women's reproductive issues and they are against the legalization of marijuana.

Ann, actually what you are describing does exist, but it's not conservatism as much as right-liberalism, which is just as predatory as the leftist variety. I disagree just as adamantly with those who would force, say, school prayer on liberal areas as I do with liberals who force legalized abortion on us down here. Both are wrong, and for the same reason.

The REAL conservative approach is to follow the American constitution. Our constitution specifically left the social issues up to the states and local communities to decide. That's the way it should be, meaning if they want legal assisted suicide and medical marijuana in California, great. And if we want prayer in our schools and no abortion here in Texas, that's likewise our decision.

Tolerance is critically important. One group trying to force their views on other groups is the source of all wars, hatred, and conflict. There is simply no need for it. I cite this as an example:

"So hell DOES smell like Texas"

What is the real purpose of a remark like this?

I also appreciate your good manners and intelligent comments. I hope we can disagree without being disagreeable, which is the essence of true tolerance--i.e., I won't tell the liberals how to live up there if the liberals don't tell us how to live down here.