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New rule for Love and Dating: Don't give out advice until you've actually gotten laid.

Some of the most cringe-inducing things I've read in my entire life in this thread.

Not once have I ever been accused of rape. Aside from the initial learning phase, I've only been loved and begged for more sex after I show her that I "get her." We all know that aspies tend to take things literally. So it should not surprise you that when it comes to women, you have to learn how to read in between the lines. Women (at least NT ones...I don't have experience with aspie women) speak implicitly so they don't feel like a slut (a dumb label that reinforces the illogical double-standard between men and women, but it is what it is until society evolves).

When you first learn this stuff, you won't know what the limits are. She'll let you know either physically or telling you matter-of-factly. You have to go through some rejections to learn what these limits are. Those who still struggle with reading body language/tonality should NOT attempt any of this because it presupposes that you have those skills down SOLID. If you do end up raping her, you're to blame for being body language/tonality blind, but again, if you are that blind, I doubt you'll even get far enough to be in a position to rape her! As I've always said, the FIRST thing anyone serious about learning social and dating skills is to learn how to read body language/tonality. Until then, this may seem alien. But don't assume that because you don't have the skill, nobody else does.

^ and just because you happen to have been with women who play the 'resistance' and 'no but yes' games, don't assume this is what what all men with some sexual experience experienced.

Don't assume I made this assumption.

Most men don't experience this because most men have sex with women who already decided to hook up with him that night...or the woman has no social concerns with sex because the man has followed the traditional dating route of spending weeks/months with her before having sex. "Resistance" occurs when her social status feels threatened, e.g. she may be labeled as a "slut" or "too easy," or she likes you so much that she's afraid of losing you for sleeping with you too quickly AND knows you'll always be available (as opposed to her liking you so much but is afraid of you losing interest so risks sleeping with you quickly because that's her only chance to getting you).

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Yes, you were assuming so, that's why you put that 'rule' above in bold, because you think that every man who got laid must have experienced this paradox in sex - but you're wrong.

Logical fallacy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

It's you who are showing this logical fallacy, on what basis did you put this rule? wasn't because some men's experienced differed from yours? and disagreed with your ways in sex?

Your timing (you put it after claiming that I have no sexual experience in bold) of putting this rule implied this logic:
If those WP users had never experienced a "teasing no" therefore they had never got laid (fallacy).

and not:
Those WP user had never got laid, then they surely had never experienced a "teasing no".

I was exactly explaining this fallacy in your logic.

Wow. Just wow.

Look, it's clear you don't have a good grasp of logic (most people don't). Please don't pretend you do.

So tell me Mr. Wow logic.

Why did you say : "Don't give out advice until you've actually gotten laid." after this discussion in specific?

Stop disrespecting our intelligence, you are assuming that every man on this thread who had never experienced the "no but yes" game , and talked about his concern about this matter, must not had sex at all.

If you don't understand how affirming the consequent is a logical fallacy, I can't help you any further.

You did not answer the question, idiot.

you know better than this boo.
personal attacks are offlimits

Though I do not fulfill your criteria, what about this commonplace? If she likes you and wants to do <whatever> with you, she will eventually say "yes"? If she decides to break up with you because you actually interpret her "no" as a "no", you might have missed an opportunity to get laid, but I have some reason to doubt that a relationship in which people don't tell each other what they want can be very stable.

Yes, but check few pages back to see who started with the personal attack.

You won't have reason to doubt if you have experience. In fact, if a woman gives you "token resistance," and you back off, she will RESENT you for it. She will resent you for not taking things all the way when she put herself out there and you failed to get her VERY OBVIOUS hints that she doesn't truly mean "no." She'll feel like crap thinking you were a real man who understands women, and will now feel like a bad judge of character, which is a huge blow to her ego. This means women who will suddenly stop returning your calls. Don't be mad at me--I'm just the messenger. That's just how NT women (again, I have no sexual experience with aspie women) are like.

This is why this thread is so hilarious. Men think they're being gentlemen and think women will appreciate them at the HEAT OF THE MOMENT for backing off. The reality is you're pissing women off! If you can't tell the difference between a fake "no" and a real "no," then yes, this will probably fly way over your heads.

Fine. If she wants a player, she must look for someone other than me.

I don't understand why women would give a teasing no anyway, unless they were in a confirmed relationship where the two parties knew each other very well and could read each other well. The first few encounters are not for games IMO.