Why are strong women seen as the enemy?

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07 Jul 2014, 4:04 am

The two most common quotes: "stop putting words in my mouth" "your being passive aggressive" SA


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07 Jul 2014, 5:22 am

AspergianMutantt wrote:
Why does women like strong men?
Have you ever considered, that much of that strength is considered a masculine trait?
Is a man looking to be attracted to the attributes of his own sex in a woman?
Or that of a woman attracted to the attributes of her own sex in a male?
Perhaps this should be defined first, considering heterosexuals as the average normal..

Which for me brings even a further question, why does woman expect men to accept them as their equals as like with other males, yet as partners, when they yet (for the most part) reject males that are more feminin as potential partners? seems a bit hypocritical to me.


This is just silly. You're trying the put the whole planet of diversity and different people into 2 small boxes.
Please keep in mind the diversity we have.
The world is not just "feminine women attracted to masculine men and that's the natural way".



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07 Jul 2014, 8:12 am

Nope....it definitely isn't.



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07 Jul 2014, 10:09 am

AspergianMutantt wrote:
Why does women like strong men?
Have you ever considered, that much of that strength is considered a masculine trait?
Is a man looking to be attracted to the attributes of his own sex in a woman?
Or that of a woman attracted to the attributes of her own sex in a male?
Perhaps this should be defined first, considering heterosexuals as the average normal..

Which for me brings even a further question, why does woman expect men to accept them as their equals as like with other males, yet as partners, when they yet (for the most part) reject males that are more feminin as potential partners? seems a bit hypocritical to me.

This is so incredible false, in fact in this new generation the opposite is true. A lot of girls now are attracted to feminine men, atleast the younger ones. This can actually get frustrating, since I am very masculine and am into bodybuilding. That being said I have also found women around my age, or younger that do like strong men, but they seem to be in the minority unless we're talking about older women. Women in their thirties and older. In terms of guys not liking strong women, that is also false. We are out there. A woman being strong and dedicated to fitness like I am is not a requirement for me, but I am attracted to strong women even powerlifters, as long as they aren't on steroids. Not that I have anything against steroid use, but women who use them don't look feminine and they do start to take on masculine traits like body hair and a deep voice.



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12 Jul 2014, 12:26 am

ypi wrote:
AspergianMutantt wrote:
Why does women like strong men?
Have you ever considered, that much of that strength is considered a masculine trait?
Is a man looking to be attracted to the attributes of his own sex in a woman?
Or that of a woman attracted to the attributes of her own sex in a male?
Perhaps this should be defined first, considering heterosexuals as the average normal..

Which for me brings even a further question, why does woman expect men to accept them as their equals as like with other males, yet as partners, when they yet (for the most part) reject males that are more feminin as potential partners? seems a bit hypocritical to me.


This is just silly. You're trying the put the whole planet of diversity and different people into 2 small boxes.
Please keep in mind the diversity we have.
The world is not just "feminine women attracted to masculine men and that's the natural way".


I agree and over the past 30 years of my life, I was hoping that peoples' attitudes about gender would have changed by now, but they obviously haven't. Oh...and just one more thing.

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12 Jul 2014, 12:44 am

Sweetpea; I am married, monogamous and old. I do not have a clue what type of "accesories" are on your body, but I have always been somewhat attracted to you. Thirty years ago I probably would have considered you a "freak". My attitude has totally changed and I know it has for many others as well. So, though the changes are slower than they should be, they are happening.



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12 Jul 2014, 12:53 am

I don't mind a strong woman as long as she doesn't see me as an enemy or blame me for everything simply because I am a man nor is abusive and violent towards me. If she sees me as an equal then I am fine with that.


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12 Jul 2014, 9:24 pm

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Sweetpea; I am married, monogamous and old. I do not have a clue what type of "accesories" are on your body, but I have always been somewhat attracted to you. Thirty years ago I probably would have considered you a "freak". My attitude has totally changed and I know it has for many others as well. So, though the changes are slower than they should be, they are happening.


The fact that the changes are happening gives me hope for the future. I just hope that no more generations of transgendered children will have to go through the same things that I went through. I hope that in the future, transgendered children will get to live life as their preferred gender and they will be able to transition to their preferred gender instead of being forced to develop naturally.

You're a Sweet Pea too. I've also been somewhat attracted to you. I think it's because we're both Sweet Peas. :) :P


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13 Jul 2014, 2:51 am

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Another....you know what fight brewing! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CezNIRYYGY[/youtube]


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13 Jul 2014, 6:05 am

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Peter Post, great-grandson of Emily Post, wrote the book Essential Manners for Men: What to do, When to do it, and Why. In it, he describes etiquette as being governed by three principles: consideration, respect, and honesty.

"CONSIDERATION is understanding how other people and entities are affected by whatever is taking place. Consideration is empathy. I helps us to assess how a situation affects everyone involved, and then acts accordingly.

RESPECT is recognizing that how you act with another person will affect your relationship with that person, and then choosing to take actions that will build relationships rather than injure them. Respect helps us decide how to choose to act toward others.

HONESTY is being truthful, not deceptive. There is a critical difference, too, between benevolent and brutal honesty: "I have a problem with that" vs. "That's a stupid thing to say." Honesty ensures that we act sincerely."

Further on the same page, he writes:
"BEING INCONSIDERATE AND BEING DISRESPECTFUL GO HAND IN HAND
Staring at other women. Talking down to women. Ignoring their opinions. Interrupting. Not introducing them. Simply ignoring them altogether. Walking several steps ahead of a women rather than beside her. The Post Survey found that women don't simply view these behaviors as being rude or inconsiderate - to women, they represent a fundamental lack of personal respect."

I sincerely doubt that Peter Post would consider, "Looking good baby!" said by a guy on a scaffold to represent good etiquette. I don't consider it weak to explain that this doesn't represent good etiquette. I think that teaching manners to a community of people notorious for their poor social skills is helpful and can aid in their efforts to relate to other human beings in positive ways. I can't imagine why someone here would not want the other members to learn good manners toward other human beings. Good etiquette shows respect. Standing up for yourself and requesting that people show you respect is generally held to be a mark of strength, not weakness.


^^This.


This list is sexist because it should be told to both genders, it's not just men need lessons in manners, I have encountered dates who avoid walking besides me (either ahead or slow down) because I am shorter, and some who talk how great this other guy is, and don't let mr start about honesty... the examples are many.



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13 Jul 2014, 6:40 am

I for one find strong women attractive, while on the other hand I've experienced a lot of negative attitudes towards me for being less of a strong man than most men around me. I've been called pathetic for doubting a woman loved me because at the time I thought there was nothing good about me. This is a woman who doubted I loved her for exactly the same reason. What constitutes a strong woman anyway? One who has ambitions, doesn't take s**t from people and who recognises both her strengths and faults? That sounds like an ideal woman for a lot of men I know. It's only the type of men who treat women like s**t anyway that consider strong women the enemy, and what the hell is the point in worrying about them?


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13 Jul 2014, 9:55 am

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Another....you know what fight brewing! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CezNIRYYGY[youtube]


Here is some attention. Don't use it all up at once.


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13 Jul 2014, 12:55 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Another....you know what fight brewing! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CezNIRYYGY[/youtube]


Here is some attention. Don't use it all up at once.
Attention yay!! ! can i have a hug now? :oops:


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13 Jul 2014, 1:30 pm

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Attention yay!! ! can i have a hug now? :oops:


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Attention yay!! ! can i have a hug now? :oops:


*hug*
Awww thanks *hugs back*


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15 Jul 2014, 11:01 pm

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Attention yay!! ! can i have a hug now? :oops:


*hug*
Awww thanks *hugs back*


*hugs* to both of you sweeties. with extra attention to otaku.