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27 Apr 2015, 8:24 pm
With the state of today's economy (largely controlled by sinister private-bankers), I honestly cannot think of any real good reason for anybody to bother having a relationship, and I actually prefer to keep to myself. I don't think http://www.meetup.com/ is so bad, but another factor to take into consideration, are these people the types of people who share the same interest(s) as you ? Also, does the area you live in have an actual community, or is it one of those metropolitan-areas where everybody's too busy trying to stay afloat to bother having any time to socialise with others due to risking the loss of even having a home to live in if they're not working 24/7 ?
RetroGamer87 wrote:
equestriatola wrote:
28 here, and I am still not giving up, despite the fact I have had only one GF in my life, and one date. Sorry if I seem late to this party.
One date and one GF? Were they both with the same girl? How long did you have a girlfriend for? Why did it end? If you don't mind telling us, that is.
Ban-Dodger wrote:
This is mostly correct in most instances/situations/contexts. It's why I recommend using venues like http://www.meetup.com/ for meeting people where people actually go to meet people
Yesterday my manager was saying I should try meetup.com. I've been thinking about it for a while. It seems a little scary walking into a group of people you've never met, your only knowledge of them being a time and place of prescribed meeting, and they've already known each other for months or years, they're all a cohesive group and then there's you...
I don't have a lot of time for that, between my existing friends, my almost full time job and the technical college I'm going to half-time. Then again maybe I should spend my free time more efficiently instead of randomly browsing Yahoo Answers but the sidebar is filled with click bait. Anyway, yesterday my ex was again saying she wants to come back to me so somehow it seems disloyal to try to get a date with another girl.
sly279 wrote:
problem is people at bus stops(took bus a lot) don't want to talk to anyone else. or even sit next to others. they all have headphones in and if there's no empty seats not next to another. they stand which is awful so that shows you just how much people want to avoid each other now a days.
I know right? I catch the train a lot and all the pretty girls (and also everyone else) are all looking at their smartphones or tablets. About half of them are wearing headphones. I look at their screens and many of them are on Facebook. So they have a device that makes them alone and then an app that allows them to socialize. If they weren't staring at that screen they could socialize with the people around them. I remember 20 years ago people on public transport used to talk a lot more. Sometimes even amongst strangers. Even though I love buying and using smartphones I hate what they do to people.
Yeah, I have actually read articles about how, whilst we have more devices and technologies to stay connected, everybody is peculiarly and ironically even MORE isolated socially than society had ever been before. Come to think of it I've also read how many cell-phone towers are part of a mind-control grid that uses a kind of frequency technology to turn everybody into oblivious or anti-social zombies (and frequencies do have a lot to do with behaviours, if anybody recalls the whale-beachings, that was due to a frequency/technology being tested by the U.S. Navy that forced the whales to beach themselves, much internal-damage also to their auditory organs). I think society is largely damaged in this manner with frequencies that are not quite as extreme to humans as the sonar-pulses were to the whales but mind-altering enough to where behaviours can be clearly seen to be much different in regions of the population with greater numbers of cell-towers (large cities) than in other regions (small-town) such to the point where the contrast is almost like feeling as-if though on different planets of different humans.
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With the state of today's economy (largely controlled by sinister private-bankers), I honestly cannot think of any real good reason for anybody to bother having a relationship, and I actually prefer to keep to myself. I don't think http://www.meetup.com/ is so bad, but another factor to take into consideration, are these people the types of people who share the same interest(s) as you ? Also, does the area you live in have an actual community, or is it one of those metropolitan-areas where everybody's too busy trying to stay afloat to bother having any time to socialise with others due to risking the loss of even having a home to live in if they're not working 24/7 ?
RetroGamer87 wrote:
equestriatola wrote:
28 here, and I am still not giving up, despite the fact I have had only one GF in my life, and one date. Sorry if I seem late to this party.
One date and one GF? Were they both with the same girl? How long did you have a girlfriend for? Why did it end? If you don't mind telling us, that is.
Ban-Dodger wrote:
This is mostly correct in most instances/situations/contexts. It's why I recommend using venues like http://www.meetup.com/ for meeting people where people actually go to meet people
Yesterday my manager was saying I should try meetup.com. I've been thinking about it for a while. It seems a little scary walking into a group of people you've never met, your only knowledge of them being a time and place of prescribed meeting, and they've already known each other for months or years, they're all a cohesive group and then there's you...
I don't have a lot of time for that, between my existing friends, my almost full time job and the technical college I'm going to half-time. Then again maybe I should spend my free time more efficiently instead of randomly browsing Yahoo Answers but the sidebar is filled with click bait. Anyway, yesterday my ex was again saying she wants to come back to me so somehow it seems disloyal to try to get a date with another girl.
sly279 wrote:
problem is people at bus stops(took bus a lot) don't want to talk to anyone else. or even sit next to others. they all have headphones in and if there's no empty seats not next to another. they stand which is awful so that shows you just how much people want to avoid each other now a days.
I know right? I catch the train a lot and all the pretty girls (and also everyone else) are all looking at their smartphones or tablets. About half of them are wearing headphones. I look at their screens and many of them are on Facebook. So they have a device that makes them alone and then an app that allows them to socialize. If they weren't staring at that screen they could socialize with the people around them. I remember 20 years ago people on public transport used to talk a lot more. Sometimes even amongst strangers. Even though I love buying and using smartphones I hate what they do to people.
Yeah, I have actually read articles about how, whilst we have more devices and technologies to stay connected, everybody is peculiarly and ironically even MORE isolated socially than society had ever been before. Come to think of it I've also read how many cell-phone towers are part of a mind-control grid that uses a kind of frequency technology to turn everybody into oblivious or anti-social zombies (and frequencies do have a lot to do with behaviours, if anybody recalls the whale-beachings, that was due to a frequency/technology being tested by the U.S. Navy that forced the whales to beach themselves, much internal-damage also to their auditory organs). I think society is largely damaged in this manner with frequencies that are not quite as extreme to humans as the sonar-pulses were to the whales but mind-altering enough to where behaviours can be clearly seen to be much different in regions of the population with greater numbers of cell-towers (large cities) than in other regions (small-town) such to the point where the contrast is almost like feeling as-if though on different planets of different humans.
Yet the vast majority of city-dwellers, all humans, really, manage to find a partner (or have at one time found one) anyways.
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27 Apr 2015, 8:36 pm
I wouldn't be so sure about that... statistics reveal that there are more single people than married in the world now.
Diningroom wrote:
Yet the vast majority of city-dwellers, all humans, really, manage to find a partner (or have at one time found one) anyways.
This trend became much more pronounced ever since the world became more urban than rural and it continues.
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27 Apr 2015, 10:46 pm
Ban-Dodger wrote:
Here's a trick: Stop looking so hard... frequently you blind yourself by focusing your thoughts too much the wrong way.
sly279 wrote:
equestriatola wrote:
28 here, and I am still not giving up, despite the fact I have had only one GF in my life, and one date. Sorry if I seem late to this party.
at least you had a gf. leaps ahead of me.
I know it seems like some kind of oxymoron as to how it works but, the less you feel the need to get one, the more likely one will come your way. The more you feel like you're in need of one the more you will be avoided by them all. Just find something to get good at or refine what you're already good at and hone on developing that skill and with enough practice it automatically ends up turning into a topic of conversation (and if you're not skilled at anything then it doesn't necessarily hurt to just learn about subjects that many people in the general-public are interested in such as from the publications by Dean Radin and Rupert Sheldrake that you might talk about with women in asking their opinions on their research or if they've ever even heard of those researchers/scientists before).
if i didn't want one then when they came my way I'd reject them. though I'd rather be the only cares about hobbies and objects aspie I swear. way more easier life then the social desiring companionship wanting aspie.
also the whole wit for them to come to you only works with confident super social people.
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27 Apr 2015, 10:55 pm
Diningroom wrote:
sly279 wrote:
rdos wrote:
Diningroom wrote:
Maybe she doesn't wanna talk to random strange men, period. Even if the guy is hot, even if she's single.
Why do you think flirting means talking? Aren't you too focused on the PUA strategies you despise so much?
this is why I never approach women. dating sites or nothing. anywhere else they don't' want to be approached anymore. this is why dating sites are so heavily used today vs 5 years ago.
You asked one girl out in person and she said no. So you're never ever gonna ask another girl out in person again.
You've contacted hundreds of girls on dating sites and been rejected by hundreds of girls on dating sites. Yet you will continue to ask out ONLY girls on dating sites. Over and over, despite the rejection.
This makes no sense.
(Dating sites make it easy to send a zillion messages to a zillion girls/guys making it equally easy to hit delete on the zillions of unsolicited messages. That both guys and girls receive. Not to mention the fact that people who are no longer looking for dates forget to delete their profiles, folks who are married lie and say they are single in their profiles and free sites have been known to not-actually-ever-delete-profiles, making it look like there are tons more "available" people than there actually are.
Asking girls out in person means you know them a little bit (like, their name, at a minimum) and through conversation you've determined they're single and they think you are somewhat interesting (they're talking to you, right?), so the odds of them saying yes goes up.
But, hey, your life, your call.
well I don't message any anymore.
to learn all that stuff you'd have to talk to them. to talk to them you have to know them. which you can't do without talking to them. worked with women at work for year. they hardly ever mentioned their relationship. popped up once in 2 years. also the ones I have got closish to by the time I know anything they only see me as a acquaintance.
and how the f**k would you determine if they like you. you know this is autism site right. we have problems reading non verbal cues. not to mention all the flirting stuff is also done by overly friendly people. one girl did all the classic flirting stuff. but wasn't interested in me.she just super friendly. reality is there's no real way to know if woman likes you unless she says it. anything else and you can end up being accused of sexual harassment for trying to kiss them.
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27 Apr 2015, 11:04 pm
There is, but you need to be more willing to hug them, the ones who move close enough to you during hugging for your hips to press together are interested, even if they may not necessarily be able to express honestly about how they feel, perhaps due to social-status reasons. The ones who are leaning forward & keep their hips away only see you as friend.
sly279 wrote:
reality is there's no real way to know if woman likes you unless she says it. anything else and you can end up being accused of sexual harassment for trying to kiss them.
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27 Apr 2015, 11:43 pm
The ones who believe in cops aren't worth hugging anyway. Get this...
sly279 wrote:
and the 90% who then call the cops on you ?
The fact is that you clearly don't even bother TRYING to talk to women, and if you do but always have negative results, then you're letting your dick do the talking instead of your brains. You need to understand that getting into a relationship with women is more like a chess-game, and if your openings are bad, you will always be check-mated & lose every time due to the opening being bad.
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A woman you're trying to flirt with isn't going to call the cops on you if you try to kiss or hug her once and she rejects you. If she moves her head away, pushes you away from her, or says "no" or "stop it", then you take that as a hint that she is not interested and leave her be. She will call the cops if you continue trying to touch her after she's rejected you. That's when it becomes harassment.
A woman you're trying to flirt with isn't going to call the cops on you if you try to kiss or hug her once and she rejects you. If she moves her head away, pushes you away from her, or says "no" or "stop it", then you take that as a hint that she is not interested and leave her be. She will call the cops if you continue trying to touch her after she's rejected you. That's when it becomes harassment.
I dunno, but I've heard stories about women calling something as harassment for way slighter things (sometimes even unintentional) than this, things like an accidental leg bumping and things like that.
But they were just stories from third parties and I wasn't there, the only harassment I've ever seen was a man, "jokingly" he claimed later, spanking a girl's butt so it was explicit.
I think you are very generalizing when you say " A woman you're trying to flirt with isn't going to call the cops on you if you try to kiss or hug her once and she rejects you" - some women might do.
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28 Apr 2015, 3:40 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I think you are very generalizing when you say " A woman you're trying to flirt with isn't going to call the cops on you if you try to kiss or hug her once and she rejects you" - some women might do.
I see no reason why you would want to hug, much less kiss, a woman you don't know. At any rate, I'm 100% certain that no woman will call the cops if you do nonverbal flirting (as in looking with quick glances) with her. That's 100% safe, you won't get yelled at, and you won't get rejected, only ignored if she doesn't like you.
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28 Apr 2015, 11:25 am
Like, I am going to like, act as-if though I am like, providing advice to myself. Like my younger self, back when I had no experience with actually interacting with females-of-interest, and provide some "openings" for myself that could be used...:
"Hey, I'm sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could help me with some research that I'm doing on how women feel about being approached by strangers ?" (With a pen and note-pad or note-book out and all)
"Hey, that sounds like an interesting subject (or that you've always found said subject interesting) you guys are discussing, mind if I join you at this table for more discussion ?" (Usually for when you've over-heard a discussion over a topic that interests you)
"Excuse me, miss, I know this might seem a bit rather random/sudden, but could you spare a few minutes to help me practice with approaching & talking with nice, attractive, lovely ladies like yourself ? See, well, I don't particularly have a lot of experience with socialising, but it's something that seems like an important skill to develop in society. Would you agree ?"
...just to name a handful
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Like, I am going to like, act as-if though I am like, providing advice to myself. Like my younger self, back when I had no experience with actually interacting with females-of-interest, and provide some "openings" for myself that could be used...:
"Hey, I'm sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could help me with some research that I'm doing on how women feel about being approached by strangers ?" (With a pen and note-pad or note-book out and all)
"Hey, that sounds like an interesting subject (or that you've always found said subject interesting) you guys are discussing, mind if I join you at this table for more discussion ?" (Usually for when you've over-heard a discussion over a topic that interests you)
"Excuse me, miss, I know this might seem a bit rather random/sudden, but could you spare a few minutes to help me practice with approaching & talking with nice, attractive, lovely ladies like yourself ? See, well, I don't particularly have a lot of experience with socialising, but it's something that seems like an important skill to develop in society. Would you agree ?"
...just to name a handful
That is creepy. Having a hard time imagining women enjoy being treated as lab rats when socializing with friends.
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28 Apr 2015, 7:38 pm
Lab-rats is quite the stretch. One time, I was at this like, McDonald's, and there were a couple of very attractive girls (cousins) from Cambodia (one was actually tall) who were talking with each other at a table, and I approached and said: "Hey, mind if I join you (with my meal at your meal) ?" (I was speaking with a French-sounding accent at the time so that may have been another factor of the girls being as receptive as they were with me that evening)
Their response: "Umm (looking at each other then at me like they were a bit surprised), yeah (expression changing from that of looking confused to looking rather happy), sure, feel free to join us (they made room for me to sit)."
Also, keep in mind, I was quite the spotless businessman at the time, wearing my business-suit (and did I mention that I was always very spotlessly clean) ? I'm also going to tell you something else that I've noticed about girls (the ones in cities anyway), and it's that of the ones I've approached and talk to, nearly all of them always seem to ask me something along the lines of: "So what made you decide to come talk to me ?" (I answered back then that I was trying to be a bit more social than normal and thought that it would be a good idea to bother talking to people instead of just working ALL the time since I've been so busy working that it was like I never had time to talk to anybody but I thought that I should at least try to squeeze it into my busy schedule anyway)
Yes, I was working ALL the time, and the reason I ALWAYS had work available was because I was registered with multiple different employment-agencies, and if one agency or branch didn't have an assignment, I would just call another one, and ask them if they had any assignments available (amongst a bunch of other things that were happened in my life that forced me into a kind of survival-mode since I was living out of my car). Anyway, when the girls asked me that, considering that they seemed to like talking to me and having our conversations about life/work/school/career-plans/society/etc., the reason turned out to be largely because they actually WANT guys to approach them, and talk to them, but somehow cannot seem to figure out how to do it and so it was like I must have been the first and only guy in their lives to do so or at least it seemed like a rare occurrence (or I think more specifically was that I was probably a guy that they found attractive and they wanted to know how to get attractive guys like me to approach and talk to them like I did).
The taller girl was the prettier one, and I even got her to hug me just before we went our ways in the evening, and she said that she had she "'ve never done this before" (hugging guy like me) but she seemed happy (her cousin backed off when I offerred but she wasn't creeped out or anything just said with a smile: "No, no, I'm okay ! =)" and also, were I not so busy at that time, needing to get to sleep early in order to have energy for work the next day, I know for a fact that I could have also invited that very beautiful and attractive tall girl to come and hang out with me for the rest of the night, even so much as escorting and inviting her to stay with me in a hotel, and that we would have definitely ended up having sex and losing our virginities to one another, and quite possibly even continued into a relationship & marriage & family, but anyway, what is done was done and I simply missed out on yet another opportunity (out of MANY throughout my life) for having really great sex with extremely attractive girls !
Lightbulb wrote:
Ban-Dodger wrote:
Like, I am going to like, act as-if though I am like, providing advice to myself. Like my younger self, back when I had no experience with actually interacting with females-of-interest, and provide some "openings" for myself that could be used...:
"Hey, I'm sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could help me with some research that I'm doing on how women feel about being approached by strangers ?" (With a pen and note-pad or note-book out and all)
"Hey, that sounds like an interesting subject (or that you've always found said subject interesting) you guys are discussing, mind if I join you at this table for more discussion ?" (Usually for when you've over-heard a discussion over a topic that interests you)
"Excuse me, miss, I know this might seem a bit rather random/sudden, but could you spare a few minutes to help me practice with approaching & talking with nice, attractive, lovely ladies like yourself ? See, well, I don't particularly have a lot of experience with socialising, but it's something that seems like an important skill to develop in society. Would you agree ?"
...just to name a handful
That is creepy. Having a hard time imagining women enjoy being treated as lab rats when socializing with friends.
I saw that MGTOW seems to come up a lot but I was looking for more video-footage of what actually happens when women are approached but we'll just have to start with this for now even though you cannot necessarily see for yourself how it would actually go live and in action...
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28 Apr 2015, 7:45 pm
rdos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I think you are very generalizing when you say " A woman you're trying to flirt with isn't going to call the cops on you if you try to kiss or hug her once and she rejects you" - some women might do.
I see no reason why you would want to hug, much less kiss, a woman you don't know. At any rate, I'm 100% certain that no woman will call the cops if you do nonverbal flirting (as in looking with quick glances) with her. That's 100% safe, you won't get yelled at, and you won't get rejected, only ignored if she doesn't like you.
I see one reason: LUST.
In any case, be careful when making physical contact with female strangers. It's generally NOT ADVISABLE to initiate it; even when she or the both of you are drunk. Some very belligerent women will yell at you or even call you out when you glance at them or stare at them and they pick up on unrequited attraction but that's the exception not the rule. Only make physical contact if she does it first.
Lightbulb wrote:
Ban-Dodger wrote:
Like, I am going to like, act as-if though I am like, providing advice to myself. Like my younger self, back when I had no experience with actually interacting with females-of-interest, and provide some "openings" for myself that could be used...:
"Hey, I'm sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could help me with some research that I'm doing on how women feel about being approached by strangers ?" (With a pen and note-pad or note-book out and all)
"Hey, that sounds like an interesting subject (or that you've always found said subject interesting) you guys are discussing, mind if I join you at this table for more discussion ?" (Usually for when you've over-heard a discussion over a topic that interests you)
"Excuse me, miss, I know this might seem a bit rather random/sudden, but could you spare a few minutes to help me practice with approaching & talking with nice, attractive, lovely ladies like yourself ? See, well, I don't particularly have a lot of experience with socialising, but it's something that seems like an important skill to develop in society. Would you agree ?"
...just to name a handful
That is creepy. Having a hard time imagining women enjoy being treated as lab rats when socializing with friends.
27 Apr 2015, 8:24 pm
