The value of men

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There's no right answer. It's just a playful game. I always liked Emma and Samuel. But if you're looking for underlying meaning, it means she likes you.

What do I know, I'm just a woman.

Seriously, sly, you've got to learn independence. It's awesome! Marriage and relationships are so 20th century.

I told her Mark, that's a cool name. I also suggested we use sex selection so it's a boy. She was OK with that.

I think it would be kind of nice if a woman wanted to have a baby by me. This actually has never happened to me!

I can understand that you're scared about parenthood (me too). And the only knowing each other for 3 weeks is also way too soon, but those two things are what the problem is - its not that she takes you for only a sperm donor and was objectifying you. She must really be smitten to want a family with you. In a "normal" relationship, what she was asking is actually a compliment to you.

I guess it is. Come to think of it I don't really hate kids that much, except when I have to be responsible for them. Maybe I could get used to it but I think it would be a significant drain on my financial resources. Yes I know I twisted it around, I thought it would be humorous to create a gender reversed version of objectification.

As for being mitten with me, I don't really know what she sees in me. Sometimes she seems to be hot and cold. She said I have to marry her within two years because she "wants a husband, not a boyfriend". She says she's "done with the boyfriend thing". I think she's concerned about getting married and having a child before her biological clock ticks over. She is 25 after all.

OK, I realize 25 isn't that old but it's old enough to want to settle down into a permanent relationship. She still has a number of years in which she could have kids but she doesn't have forever. When she suggested it I was kind of rude to her but she took it her stride and now I'm sort of getting used to the idea.

I think of the Christmas dinners and other celebrations I have with my grandfather and think, that could be me. I mean, my parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts will all die before I do so when I'm 70 years old I don't want to be without any close living relatives. The only way I can have relatives when I'm 70 is if they're descended from me.

Also maybe it would be fun to raise him to be a little nerd. I could teach him to play my NES, buy him a Playstation Phone, make sure his BYO school laptop is better than what all the other boys in grade school have, teach him that Apple sucks, etc. Also I'd have a use for the massive Lego collection I collected when I was in my early 20s.

But I find some aspects of parenthood to be confusing. Like if he rebels like I did how can I discipline him without being overly mean. Some kids are just uncontrollable like I was. And if he's lazy like I was, how can I get him to apply himself without being one of those overworking tiger parents?

I think we men are best off as single fathers with custody of kids because we have the freedom to do our man/bachelor things while at the same time being proud fathers and focusing on the well being of our childeren, we will have casual encounters with women and still be man of the house but at the same time try to be a good role model to the kids and being a kickass dad to boot, get a retired police car for a family car, make it a hot rod, dont get a minivan and the kids will see you as cool and having fun riding in your ride, a V-8 you can have fun with as well as providing safety and room its perfect! The kids will be like dad go faster go faster this is cool as opposed to "are we there yet?" and picking on eachother as well as you being a chick repellant because your a single soccer dad! Most women avoid a single father who drives a minivan or station wagon, but with a hot rod with four doors they will run to ya they like the ruggedness and agressiveness at the same time being a responsible man who is taking care of kids!Women like a confident man as well as a responsible man having a masculine car makes it easier to remain confident as well as the love and looking out for the well being of your kids at every cost showing responsibility! You will have a second wife in no time, the only issue would be how the kids will adapt to having a step mother, they will either see her as cool as dad or hate her and wish to spend time with mom who made the mistake and divorcing daddy!

I hope to get married some day, but due to how things go these days with the divorce rates being high it makes me wonder without being heart broken, it just seems now these days I just want to get married to have kids and be a daddy, I do want to be a daddy and wife leaves me thats her mistake, I want to be the most kick ass daddy there is whether I am married or not! I want to see my son walk for the first time, I want to see my son or daughter make the honor roll, I want to see my son or daughter graduate from highschool and best of all I want to see me son or daughter look up to me as a good role model! I want them to do the right things, stay out of drugs, stick up for them against bullies and be proud of them!I hope my future kids grow up and make the right choices and settle down with the right people so I can be a happy grandfather for their kids to look up to grandpa and see how cool he is!

I'm a submissive man do are all men submissive. no they are mostly dominate. same goes for you. you're a rare woman so not a good indication of what most women do and think. go ash random women if they like men who are like socieites standards, dominate, masclate, strong, etc .or men who have femine traits, like weak, submisive, etc.

most will say the first. they also tend to want their guy to make more then them and be the bred winner, drive nice car and not show emotions. etc.

honestly more women care about male stereotypes then men. I like women to talk about emotions but none of them will consider me for dating for sharing my emotions with them. however guys we dont' like to we generally just hang out and do activities. talk about activities etc. however though I suppose I'm not trying to date guys so maybe if i was they'd care about sterotypes too. idk. but as far as friends most do't seem to care or inquire if i have the society standard guy traits. though I dont' hang out with sports men.

also you only say that because you don't care for relationships and marriage. which is fine but many people do. I want a relationship. I want companionship. I don't want just a f**k buddy.

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if it was after not dating too long I'd find it pushy and creepy if it was after few months I wouldn't mind. I'e thought of one name for kid i thought I would have when i was hopeful of life.

That's a beautiful image you've described. If you want to see it come true, ask out that tall amazon girl the next time you see her.

^This is all just assumption. You are stereotyping women.



I would enjoy a relationship if I could find a compatible partner, but I can't, so might as well try to make the best of it.

I have no interest in the traditional male stereotype, or the traditional stereotype of any gender.

its not a sterotype to say a lot of women think _____ if a lot of women think _____ , even a good amount of women aspies on here think that. and aspies are supposedly suppose to be different.

you aren't all women. so you not wanting those does not mean other women don't so most women wanting those doesn't mean I'm stereotyping just because you and a few others don't want it. go look at craigslist, okcu, pof women profiles not men's women's and you're see that quiet a large majority of women still want and follow the traditional male role. you saying I'm assuming all this is the same as saying I'm making it up and that the thousands of proflies and adds I've seen are irrilvant. you ignore the facts in your face. many men from all over the world report this. women here say its true, some who think it themselves and others who don't but have seen many women say and do it. there are in fact some traits that a group can share, this is why there's a thing called groups. because large ammounts of people can have similar beliefs and standards. really pisses me off to be called a liar. that I just making it all up f**k that. why would I possible make this all up. al lit does is hurt me. I tried messaging women for years I been looking at women's proflies since I was 18, thats 9 years or more of data. women who don't care about what a man does for work or how much he makes are a minority. not saying they want to be housewife, but they do want men to make more then them. you're be hard pressed to find many women who will date a jobless guy or a guy working at McDonald. yes it happens but people also win the lottery, doesn't mean there aren huge odds against both. the majority of people will never win the lottery.


whats compatible to you? and that's fine if tha works for you, it doesn't work for me not to mention for guys its not even an option. women are way more picky with one night stands or fwb then they are with relationships. you might be with a slightly fat guy or a guy with a smaller penis if his other traits balance out for the relationship, but if all you're after is sex, then you going not be ok with lacking physical traits as thats all about sex. the other traits dont' matter as you're not a couple just a sex buddy. this is why so many women wanting sex only list needing to be super attractive and have a large penis. wich I get. if I'm after just a snack and not a meal, I want it to be super sweet, but if I'm after a meal I want it to be balanced.

I don't either but we're the majority and not liking something doesn't' stop the majority of people from judging us by it.

so now I find myself struggling to try to meet a stereotype I don't even like and failing at it