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06 Nov 2017, 9:03 pm

Are you still middle class if you have saved enough for a comfortable early retirement?

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06 Nov 2017, 9:06 pm

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Giantshockeyfan.
What’ll upset you more is when those kids break or lose their phone their parents buy them another and another and another.

Oh, I know all too well. As a teenager, we used to play street hockey (shocking I know) in a poorer area where most of the kids didn't have much money. One kid always had expensive sticks (which he frequently broke in angry fits) and drove up in his own SUV (as a teenager). He wrecked it after a few months and his parents bought him another one. He proceeded to wreck that one and you can guess what happened next.

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That's exactly what I mean. Young women who are raised spoiled by their middle class parents often expect their boyfriend to provide the same sort of lifestyle her parents did when it was really an illusion.

Let me say for the record my wife is NOT spoiled and never, ever wastes money. Still, she doesn't seem to understand the privilege she had thanks to her parents.

My ex on the other hand not only didn't drive, work or go to school, she seemed to think by doing a 4 hour shift at minimum wage she was contributing fairly. She was honestly shocked when I said I was not ready to share a lease with her and she got REALLY angry when I pointed out as a trust fund kid, she had no idea what being a financially independent adult was. When I finally demanded $200 a month to pay for the 80km a day I spent driving her and all the food she ate, I was treated like *I* was the selfish and greedy one by her parents.

My two female cousins act in much the same way. One doesn't really have a "real" job or career (she is a dance instructor) yet expects everything to be handed to her. I was blacklisted because I refused to let her take over my apartment for free while she was in town. Not stay on my couch, actually take over for the weekend while I went over with my now wife and to top it off she never wanted anything to do with me for years prior to that. She honestly thought that was a reasonable request and what's worse, most people agreed with her!!

To paraphrase Albert Einstein, I often wonder if I or everyone else is crazy.

Don't worry, I assumed you're wife was the one different than the rest of the women you dated since she's the one who is still with you today.

*Sigh* That sums it up, does thinking you're the last sane man on Earth make you crazy? :lol:

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06 Nov 2017, 9:45 pm

Yes, it can.

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06 Nov 2017, 9:59 pm

I don't know, insane people often think they're the only sane person on earth too.

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06 Nov 2017, 10:01 pm

So you're not insane if you think you are insane?

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06 Nov 2017, 10:08 pm

Anyone defending that mental health therapist.... wow.

That person is just an as*hole. I don’t like the idea of a person like that having access to vulnerable people.

You can not want to date people without intending to use them then throw them away. Disgusting that someone that manipulate and abusive is caring for people with such delicate an volatile problems.

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07 Nov 2017, 12:41 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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RetroGamer87 wrote:

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Who spends $4000 per year on bithday gifts? Or thousands of dollars a week on food?? Unless they have 10 children?

People who buy an iPhone for each of their kids (gotta have the trendy brand :roll:

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Brand new I phones are like $800 aren't they?

3 kids = $2,400 right there.

Hale_Bopp, welcome to Middle Class Australia.

$800? Maybe in America. We have to pay beach tax, remember?

Below is a recent listing of prices for late model iPhones from JB hi fi.

These are the phones the teenyboppers think are trendy. They ask their parents for them so they can keep up with what their high school friends have.

They're designed more to be fashion accessories than useful tools. That's why they cost as much as a designer handbag.

Of course if those prices are to expensive their parents might just buy them on contract but that might end up costing two or three times as much in the long run (phone contracts can end up being a tax on people who can't do arithmetic).

Nope iPhones are around $800 for past models.
You don’t pay more here making making payments.
They take the price divide by 24 and that’s what you pay each month. Sure at the end of two years you paid more then what that phone cost then but you’re paying the same price of the phone if someone bought it day one outright.
Phones are micro computers that fit in your pocket. And they keep getting more advanced. That’s why they cost the same as a computer. Mines a tool. But I do like how it looks much like I like how my laptop looks or my guns or my drill. You can have a tool and have it look good. If anything most companies drive to make their tools also look good. I bought bosch drill cause it’s blue and otherwise as good as the other companies.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple

I don’t get why people pick in apple. Samsung,google, lg, Motorola all do the same thing. And it’s not just phones most products have a new model every year. Guns, computers, TVs, cars, motorcycles, fish finders, optics, knifes, etc.
it’s the only way they keep making sales.
I have glock gen 4, glock just released glock gen5 that goes back to being like gen 2 and people are buying it and selling their gen 4 guns. My gen 4 is great don’t see a reason to upgrade lol
My department gets last years models of optics, knifes, fishfinders, clothes etc. sometimes all they change is the color.

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07 Nov 2017, 1:26 am

ZachGoodwin wrote:

So you're not insane if you think you are insane?

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07 Nov 2017, 1:42 am

The privilege comic:

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07 Nov 2017, 2:11 am

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those phones are ridiculous.

i like PC's. not phones or tablets and stuff.
phones are for making phone calls on. that's all i want from a phone.

so here is my phone i bought for $69 last week...

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07 Nov 2017, 2:16 am

^ I'm a big fan of that comic! It speaks volumes. I'm often reminded of it when people say "Why didn't you become an engineer like me?" Maybe because I grew up in an impoverished craphole slum and went to a bad school. People say to me "You would be an accountant like me if only you had worked hard". Maybe my crappy childhood effected me in other ways.

I think that I did pretty good to even get into the lower-middle class considering how impoverished my childhood was. Yet some people still expect me to get into the upper-middle class? Aren't I good enough yet?

Yes I know some people go from being poor to being millionaires and that's great. What that comic really illustrates is what their kids are like.

I've met people who's parents went from rags to riches and then wanted to give their kids a better childhood than they had. Yet their kids ended up being spoiled brats.

Their parents went from rags to riches and their kids think these qualities somehow rubbed off on them when they actually have the opposite qualities.

Their parents are highly independent and their kids are highly dependent. They don't seem to realise this.

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07 Nov 2017, 2:22 am

b9 wrote:

RetroGamer87 wrote:

those phones are ridiculous.

i like PC's. not phones or tablets and stuff.
phones are for making phone calls on. that's all i want from a phone.

so here is my phone i bought for $69 last week...

Imagine giving that phone to your teenaged daughter.

"Oh daddy, it's so ugly!"
"Oh daddy, all my friends have a rose gold iPhone!"
"Oh daddy, if I don't have an iPhone I'll be kicked out of the fashion club!"
"Oh daddy, if you don't buy me a rose gold iPhone it means you don't love me!"

When parents give into those demands it prevents their children growing up.

Now do you see why I hate teenagers?

I shouldn't generalise. Not all teenagers are like that.

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07 Nov 2017, 2:30 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Wait a second... I got my rose gold iPhone over a year ago!! ! Where's MY invitation to the fashion club?

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07 Nov 2017, 2:32 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:

"Oh daddy, it's so ugly!"
"Oh daddy, all my friends have a rose gold iPhone!"
"Oh daddy, if I don't have an iPhone I'll be kicked out of the fashion club!"
"Oh daddy, if you don't buy me a rose gold iPhone it means you don't love me!"

Rose gold was discontinued. There will be a lot of tears this Christmas

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07 Nov 2017, 2:37 am

I have the same phone.

Got it for cheap two years ago and it works great.

Already cheap phone but got it on discount.

Dropped it hundreds pf tomes, no damage.

Definitely no need for a $1,500 phone.

That's BONKERS!

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07 Nov 2017, 2:46 am

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RetroGamer87 wrote:

Wait a second... I got my rose gold iPhone over a year ago!! ! Where's MY invitation to the fashion club?

Over a year ago? Is that last years model? Oh no no no! You must have this years model to be eligible.

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