Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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07 Nov 2018, 10:36 am

I feel the first picture is some sort of distorted picture. I don't think it's real.

I believe the last picture is more real.

I'm not an Adonis, exactly. Never was. Always short. Sometimes chubby to fat. I had periods of loneliness---but I did "score chicks."

That's because the "chicks" knew I wanted to be their friends as well as their lovers.



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07 Nov 2018, 10:54 am

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...If a guy does not look like a male model, body builder, sports star or a famous person he has little or no chance in first world countries in regards to dating. It is a very superficial fake world we live in based on Hollywood propaganda.

Horseballs! That's not the real world, it's a fantasy. Do the work to make yourself attractive to others, there are all kinds of ways to be attractive. "Incels" want to be owed sex from someone more attractive than themselves without wanting to do the work. It's lazy and stupid.



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07 Nov 2018, 10:56 am

Even that guy in the picture was smart enough to try to look a little "hip."

He didn't have to do much. He just had to put a open button-down shirt over his t-shirt. Or a jacket.



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07 Nov 2018, 3:34 pm

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His small frame, narrow face, weak jawline makes him unattractive and he will struggle to score chicks. I have this exact same issue and I can not score chicks, unless I pay escorts.

I'm unattractive with a weak jawline and I can still get chicks. I think it depends more on social skills than looks.


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07 Nov 2018, 3:39 pm

^^^It does help at least somewhat that you're 6 foot 2....

That's an advantage I will never have.



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07 Nov 2018, 3:58 pm

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^^^It does help at least somewhat that you're 6 foot 2....

That's an advantage I will never have.
True but I'm a lot fatter than you. Even without the advantage of height you weren't celibate. Proof that you don't need height either.

Sly's taller than me. Proof that it's all about dating skills, not looks (and not PUA skills, that stuff's a scam)

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...If a guy does not look like a male model, body builder, sports star or a famous person he has little or no chance in first world countries in regards to dating. It is a very superficial fake world we live in based on Hollywood propaganda.
If that was true the human race would have gone extinct by now. Average joes get laid all the time.


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07 Nov 2018, 4:01 pm

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It's hard to have sympathy for "involuntarily celibate men", considering that voluntarily celibate men (read: clergy) are among the most privileged class on the planet.


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This might be the single dumbest thing I’ve ever read on wrong planet.

So clergy aren't the most privileged class on the planet? The Pope doesn't influence the lives of billions of people?

What's "dumb" about what I said? Communicate what you're trying to say.

The Pope is celibate and he's one of the most powerful men on the planet (it should be noted that celibate women don't traditionally wield much institutional power). Doesn't this prove that sex isn't really that big of a deal and that we shouldn't pity the incelibate male as if he's enduring some terrible hardship?


I was very concise in my communication & communicated exactly what I was trying to say.

Do you know the difference between the definitions of the words “voluntary,” and “involuntary?”

It’s impossible to compare incels to priests who choose not to have sex for religious or repressed homosexuality reasons. Doing so is ridiculous & highly insensitive to involuntarily celibate men. And also dumb. Really REALLY dumb.


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07 Nov 2018, 4:12 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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His small frame, narrow face, weak jawline makes him unattractive and he will struggle to score chicks. I have this exact same issue and I can not score chicks, unless I pay escorts.

I'm unattractive with a weak jawline and I can still get chicks. I think it depends more on social skills than looks.


No, but because you have went for Asian women. Like I did. Generally speaking, the Asian women's attitude toward my looks vs White/Caucasian women's attitude toward my looks are so extremely opposite as if they are from two different planets; yes the difference is that EXTREME.
Hmmm, among the local Caucasians, only veiled ones ever chased me, and I never understood why since I am entirely agnostic, but I have no interest in those.



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07 Nov 2018, 5:06 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
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His small frame, narrow face, weak jawline makes him unattractive and he will struggle to score chicks. I have this exact same issue and I can not score chicks, unless I pay escorts.

I'm unattractive with a weak jawline and I can still get chicks. I think it depends more on social skills than looks.


No, but because you have went for Asian women. Like I did. Generally speaking, the Asian women's attitude toward my looks vs White/Caucasian women's attitude toward my looks are so extremely opposite as if they are from two different planets; yes the difference is that EXTREME.
Hmmm, among the local Caucasians, only veiled ones ever chased me, and I never understood why since I am entirely agnostic, but I have no interest in those.


Of course I did. Asian women are cute. And no one cooks pork as skilfully as the Chinese. You remember I used to have a white girlfriend right? I'm not asiancel.

Anyway let's suppose that otherwise incelibate men can find dating success outside their ethnicity. In that case they're not incel because they just need to ask out an ethnic chick.

Either they're (voluntarily) restricting themselves to their own ethnicity or they live in an ethnically homogeneous neighbourhood.


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08 Nov 2018, 1:36 am

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A note to all incelibate men. Do this.

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I much prefer the authenticity of the left-most picture.


Bollocks. The guy on the left looks straight-up awful. The right-most version of himself actually looks fairly dashing.



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08 Nov 2018, 2:53 am

I've seen people like the guy in the left picture, who were matched up, even if some of the couples were gay. but I have not seen people resembling myself matched up, ever, with anybody. "unconventionally attractive" is a practical equivalent of unattractive. :idea:



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08 Nov 2018, 3:18 am

There needs to be attraction at first sight. I doubt personality or being friends actually matter at all. Chads pair up with the Staceys and the Beckys pair up with the Tyrones. The leftover men are the unwanted leftover men that no one wants. 100 years ago left over men fought and died in wars, now they become incels. Incels in any country that has a good welfare system are better off living off welfare and not contributing towards a society that has rejected them.



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08 Nov 2018, 3:50 am

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I doubt personality or being friends actually matter at all.
Well, there you are. More women for those who don't :P


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08 Nov 2018, 3:58 am

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There needs to be attraction at first sight. I doubt personality or being friends actually matter at all. Chads pair up with the Staceys and the Beckys pair up with the Tyrones. The leftover men are the unwanted leftover men that no one wants. 100 years ago left over men fought and died in wars, now they become incels. Incels in any country that has a good welfare system are better off living off welfare and not contributing towards a society that has rejected them.


Yes, the birth sex ratio actually leans slightly more toward male 107 boys to 100 girls , worldwide we have around 60M excess of men; the excess of boys were not supposed to survive when hunting for mammoths.



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08 Nov 2018, 6:10 am

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I doubt personality or being friends actually matter at all.
Well, there you are. More women for those who don't :P


Ha ha.

Oh my! We can't possibly be friends with the men we love. They can't possibly have any sort of personality. They probsably only look good and thats it. Arm candy.



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08 Nov 2018, 8:33 pm

hurtloam wrote:
magz wrote:
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I doubt personality or being friends actually matter at all.
Well, there you are. More women for those who don't :P


Ha ha.

Oh my! We can't possibly be friends with the men we love. They can't possibly have any sort of personality. They probsably only look good and thats it. Arm candy.


Why would anyone want to spend an inordinate amount of time with someone they don't consider a friend first and foremost? Doesn't sound like someone particularly interested in a romantic relationship, rather someone just looking for sex. Seems like they would be better off with a sex doll or sex toys, humans need emotional support, tender love and care.


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