Majority of autistuc men dont have a girlfriend?
With that being said, I was only speaking in general terms. I think people can be difficult to understand for any number of reasons. In person, people have trouble understanding me because I’m extremely shy and tend to have a flat affect. I don’t usually express much emotion unless I’m really comfortable with someone or it’s an extreme situation.
I understand.
It's a double-eged sword really. Women are expected to show more of an emotional range. However, this comes at the expense of being seen as irrational and overly dramatic.
Whereas men are expected to be more stoic. The downside to this is emotional suppression and a lack of support. A lack of network which leads to a cultural sense of loneliness.
We still have artefacts from eras before us. From times where people would diagnose women with hysteria and view men as 'not real men' for seeking emotional support.
We've moved on from times where marriage was an economic necessity if you wanted to survive comfortably as a woman. It is no longer a need but a want. Not even a want for some, as marriage becomes a less common end goal.
Marriage, relationships, dating - they are spurred out of a desire for connection rather than to prevent wars (such as with tactical marriages in monarchies) or to lower the risk of ending up in poverty.
Instead of competing with other men, realistically men are competing with a woman's solitude.
As a society, we are becoming far more aware of domestic abuse, power dynamics and serial killers.
This has created an understandable caution. Men are bigger and stronger. It's not always easy to tell someone's intent. Sometimes a person can end up to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
However, I will say that this has created a concerning double standard. People tend to underestimate the threat that women can pose. Women kill. They stalk. They drug. They can do some horrendous things. It is worrying when I see headlines that try to paint a female teacher raping a male child as anything but horrifying.
Ultimately, it comes down to the perception that men have motive but women lack agency. Things happen to women, women don't make them happen. Which isn't true, but it's a perception that is routed in history and continues to persist in more subtle ways. We can't seem to shake it. This harms everyone.
It's a tricky subject to bring up as it's sometimes used to talk over the disturbingly high statistics of violence against women by men. That is not my intent.
I likely have more to say on this but I need to rest up for my upcoming interviews. I'll probably return to this thread.
It's true that men are typically bigger.
What still isn't adding up, however: The typical woman outweighs me. Yet even I'm viewed as dangerous.
Here are some examples.
-My therapist told me a story he saw where a late teens guy on the spectrum sent a massive amount of messages to a girl he was pursuing. The girl ended up pressing charges. Upon finding out the guy was on the spectrum (and had no idea he did anything wrong), the cops luckily gave him a break (but advised him to refrain from doing that again).
-When I was 21, I started chatting with a woman online. We set up a date for a few days later.
The day of the date, I reached out to confirm whether we were still on. Not only was I told we weren't still on; the woman was pretty rude about it.
Long story short, I pretty much ended up telling her "OK, I get it, you lost interest. But can you at least tell me what I did to make you lose interest?"
The woman replied "Just stop texting me."
I replied "Just tell me what I did to make you lose interest. Then I promise you'll never hear from me again."
Her reply: "Seriously stop or else I'm pressing charges for harassment!!"
At that time, I was in a slump where woman after woman would set up a date with me, yet then lose interest before the date even happened. Obviously I was doing something wrong. For my own good (and for the sake of any woman I pursue), I needed to know what I was doing wrong.
To this day (over a decade later), I still have no idea what I did wrong with any of these dates that never came to be back when I was 21. It wasn't that I over-contacted her though; we barely had any contact during the few day span between the day we set up the date and the day the date was supposed to happen.
-Next example. I used to know a guy who was clearly on the spectrum (even though I never heard him admit it, nor did I ask). He said when he was in college, a female classmate he was pursuing attempted to get him expelled because he'd go to her apartment complex unannounced. He thought he looked dedicated and romantic; he had no idea his behavior was wrong. This isn't the only story I've heard either where a guy on the spectrum got expelled (or nearly expelled) from college for pursuing a female classmate in a manner he had no idea was wrong.
I'm sorry those things happened. Rest assured though, they aren't just autistic behaviours. I've known lots of NT people male and female who cross the line and get accused of harassment. The good thing is that autistics are likely to be respectful after a warning (imo), whereas the NTs I've known who act that way feel entitled and just won't stop.
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The mere thought of asking a woman out makes my heart pound a mile a minute, makes me get so choked up I can barely speak, and makes me so shaky I could fall over at any second. Chances are Elliot (because of his social phobia) would have displayed the same characteristics if he asked anyone out.
If a guy is exhibiting the symptoms I described (racing heart, so choked up he can barely speak, so shaky he could fall over at any second), virtually no woman is going to accept his advances, even if she's physically attracted to him.
this is why listening to all sides is so important in a mature discussion. Yes, I agree, social anxiety makes it hard for young males (and females). But for young males who are in Elliot's situation it must have drove him nuts to be in his sexual prime and not be able to approach (let alone speak) to a female. I hope you can overcome your anxiety and make friends with women one day.
As a male walking down the street and seeing a young woman cross to get away from me or an older lady lock eyes and clutch her handbag being male is seen as I am somehow a threat in public places. I'm not complaining, but it's a sad state of affairs.
What someone wears doesn’t usually make much of a difference to me. I don’t find people threatening unless they engage in behavior I find threatening - staring, making unwanted remarks, not taking no for an answer, following me, walking behind me, catcalls, invading my personal space, being touchy feely, etc.
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True. The only time I really walk around by myself is at night in the dark with my dog, when I can't see what people are wearing anyway. Likewise when it's -20 and people are wearing heavy coats. Maybe a Pokemon coat would be OK though?

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I wear pokomon t-shirts to make myself seem less threatening
Do you even train bro?

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when i complimented a woman on her artfully applied makeup. lordy, boss read me the riot act over that because the person complained up the chain of command. was told words to effect of, "if you're not brad pitt, keep your mouth shut around patients."
I wear pokomon t-shirts to make myself seem less threatening
Do you even train bro?

Do you mean train chasing pikachus on my phone. No not really.
Ah. It seems I misunderstood the conversation. Sorry. I'm on the right page now.
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On an unrelated note, imo I think you are missing out Cyber. I have Scarlet on Switch and Pokémon Go on my phone. I don't have Pikachu, however I do have some pretty neat Pokémon on my team. I need to evolve some of my Eevees. Also I want a Zebstrika because imo Zebstrika has some good attack moves.
Sapphire was alright but it had too many water levels which I know is the entire concept but still. Black had some good battles. I have heard sword and shield has good customisation but I haven't played it, I like the soundtrack though.
This is a derail. Sorry. I blame you all for mentioning Pokémon. I'll keep such talk for the video game section.
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Asking a woman from work for a date is not a great idea. At all.
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