Most Aspie men are in over their heads with dating.

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not only does he not understand how the world works now
he is also s**t at history

By his definition women are one and the same with no individuality. I had a family member who ranted about the same s**t and treated his wife like crap, he eventually went into jail for assault. I feel sorry for any woman who has to put up with this s**t but I'm glad not all men are like this. It's people like this that make me understand what it's like to be hated for being a certain way. I think in some ways it's made me personally understand how hatred can come from many sides of the coin.

In his opinion feminists are just women who have earned their right to vote, be educated and treated as the next bloke who gets the same opportunities.

And for a guy who's "happily" marries fs, you sure seem miserable.

its people like him that give AS a bad name

You know as little about the history of Jews as about the history of women. Jews were highly assimilated into German culture before Hitler. I know because my family is Jewish, from Hungary but my grandfather moved from Germany to Hungary.

I don't even know where to begin to correct you

do not speak for anyone other than yourself. i am sick of people who claim they have AS who then try to talk on behalf of other people.
i have AS and i know ONLY me. i have no idea what life is like for other people or how they internally operate.
if you have AS, then you should possibly be aware that you are of yourself and not of other people.


you only know what the case is for you. you should not tar the world with the brush that painted you.


women do not dislike me. i do not have a "personality" so to speak, but i have a flavor that appeals to some girls. i am like a robot, and there are some girls who are sick of the posturing and aggressive displays that a lot of men enact in order to show off. i do not show off, but i have things that some girls urge me to "show off" to others to dispel their ideas that i am a moron.

i do not communicate with other people much because i do not have the urge to usurp the microphone and rip my shirt off to show my chest to the world in a desperate display of my wares.

i am happy with myself as i am when i am alone, and some girls wish to come into my world so they can relax and not be always on stage acting a part in a play amidst a cast comprised of the social hordes who's eyes focus on the most minute aspects that they find questionable and mockable or at least abandonable.

i do not see or care about fashion. i do not smell perfume. i do not size up the shape of legs. i do not care if an oaf walks away with the meat tray prize. the jocks can have what they can take because i have no desire for what constitutes their prize.

i just go home and feel relieved and fulfilled and content with nothing but my own existence, and some girls who see how unfazed i am about it all think that life might be more interesting at my place where we can play musical instruments and talk about all manner of absurdities, than it is at their club where they are desperately pushed to straighten out their dresses and brush their hair and touch up their makeup and have a glib acceptable line ready to sprout off their tongue when they finally are in the glow of the social limelight.

whatever i am starting to become verbose, but i refute your depiction of my character if you are talking about me in your theory of the AS male.


i do not need anything. i am happy as i am. if i have no common interests with someone, then that is not a force to dull my own interests. i do not need auxiliary support for what i like to think about.


that advice is not relevant to me. i have no dating frustration. i have productive things in my life. tonight i played a rendition of george benson's "masquerade" that i am extremely happy with. i played the bass and the raw lead iteration, and then i layered much musical embellishment on it with a second track.
i am now going to write the code for a new animation i thought of yesterday, and when the computer has finished rendering the fractal animation, i will pair the music track with the animation and post it on youtube.

i am feverishly busy because i have many things that i am enthusiastic about, and i am alone at the moment and i am as happy as larry (i do not know who larry is but it is a saying i learned).

many times when i am waiting for a meal to be cooked at the tavern, a girl who is interested to know what i am working on asks to come back with me to have fun.

i am not talking about sexual fun. i am talking about plain fun. fun is fun and it does not matter what is is derived from. it is a fallacy (phallus see?) to say fun is only fun when you are having sex.

if the adjective that describes the experience is "fun", then that is connoting that it is enjoyable.

people that think with their d!cks are "d!ck brains"

now i have to write some code so goodbye you.

no he's not , but there's something called logic.. I recall the post that foreveryoung is talking about and i had the same reaction (this guy can't be socially inept in any form or type.)



Before talking more about his post , I have to pre-defend myself in order to avoid wrong silly assumptions against me:

- I do Not believe that women or any woman own me anything.

- I do not believe that I deserve a woman more than anyone else.

- I do not even believe I deserve a gf yet because I am not ready.

-I do not believe that all aspies are dating failures, some can succeed socially and can have social lifes...but.... not at a very young age.

- I wish for every aspie guy and girl to get a partner before me , even if i end up single for life.


Hence I am not speaking this out of jealousy or grudging envy or anything like that. I hope that I made my intentions clear here once and for all.



I myself can hardly believe that Willard is aspie or even socially inept in any form or type:


- He worked as a DJ radio at age 16

- He dated CALLERS at this very young age , which indicates how smoothly talker he is.

- lost his virginity at age 18 like most normal guys.

- he even said : "Looking back, it happened a lot more frequently than it seemed at the time. Back then if I went three months, it seemed like an unbearable dry spell." , by 'it' he means dating and sex since the thread was talking about losing virginity.
= meaning , that he dated a lot of girls.

- in other posts he even mentioned that he has a normal social life ....friends ...etc.



Some aspie might coped well in life..... but at that much young age? and with that much of success ? How could he cope that fast?


Willard according to his posts:
- He started dating at age 16 / so like most NT guys
- He dated callers / a strong indication of how smooth talker he is , like most NT guys , maybe even a lot better than many NT guys.
-He lost his virginity at 18 / so like most NT guys
-He has friends and a normal social life / so like most NT guys.




Given the above description I can understand why Mr. Willard would not want to be cured although I am not sure what he could be cured of since it sounds like he is an ordinary functioning individual.

I really wonder what are his social struggles.

He doesn't only sound so non-aspie but he even doesn't sound like a geeky or even socially inept NT .

As the saying says , If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck.

and if he can socialize that good like a typical NT , lose his virginity like a typical NT (and at normal typical NT age), date a lot of girls during his youth like a typical NT , have a NORMAL social life and a lot of friends like a NT , then he is definitely a typical NT.

Willards reminds me of those NT guys , that I might slightly envy them at times, who had always a good normal social life , friends and girlfriends.

If we want to believe that willard is aspie then he must:

- Got the best extensive social training in the world . But willard is not very young , and I doubt there were such training courses during his teenage.
- Must be ridiculously mild autistic , yet ....ironically , Mr. Willard doesn't believe in 'mild autism' or 'mild asperger' , he believes that he's aspie/autistic like any other autistic individual.
- Must be unbelievably gorgeous , yet I don't believe looks are enough to compensate the poor social skills and the non-social life.



foreveryoung , me and the others have every right to doubt willard' s real condition.

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some people are quick learners
and why does it matter if he is aspie or not
who cares

Leaving the utter absurdity of this thread aside, it's nice to see people ganging up on someone who probably doesn't even read this nonsense, but none had the spine to call him out when he made the actual post...

Most males start to bloom socially at age 14-17, start to know how to talk to girls , how to attract them and how to date them. He's not a less quick learner that most NT.




Willard has the 'Since I did this and that , then all of you can do this and that because we both have the same inborn condition" attitude , he speaks as the spokesperson of the aspies here.

I never speak as a spokesperson for anyone else and no one should.

I didn't notice it at the time
I am disappointed that I didn't, I'm always a hundred places at once

he will come and reply , do you think I am afraid of him?

I will even link him in a pm.

I suppose, but even not, I think he can still offer advice

he can still offer advice but minus this attitude.
I can still say my opinion.

But isn't that what foreveryoung and the rest of the whiny gang do too - "Since I can't do that anybody who can is not an aspie"?



I wasn't necessarily thinking about you (I haven't seen you winging here), but I see a few people in this thread using the occasion to attack another member (which is against the rules btw) and I'm amused they don't even have the spine to address him directly. I'm not surprised either - when you blame all your problems on others it's only to be expected to be a coward (again, I'm not specifically talking about you)

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So I'm part of the whiny gang? No one's ever going to accuse me of being upbeat, but I never whine about not having a girlfriend. I'm the guy saying that I've had a girlfriend and it's overrated. While my method - trying to get aspie men to temporarily give up and care less - might not be the best method, it's more realistic than telling aspie men that "anything is possible."

I've also on many occasions posted about what can be done if you want a girlfriend and a social life, and people just ignore it or say "I can't do it."