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06 Mar 2011, 2:59 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Ok ,I got it,your family's origin is Israel. See? That wasn't hard. Why all these riddles? lol

Now what?



I dunno.

You can start by not assuming that I think you are you are going to burn in hell.

In return, I will not make the assumption that will add me to your collection of four wives.

:lmao:

We're good here now.



I don't think Ill ever get a gf, let alone four wives :lol:


I'll never have four wives either. It's okay.



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07 Mar 2011, 6:40 pm

I wouldn't attempt to marry someone with a religion because I don't have one myself. I think religions represent a dearth of scientific inquiry. I want to become - and have a relationship with - a scientist. Once you understand where religions come from, life comes from and how probability works, religions make less and less sense.



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07 Mar 2011, 7:01 pm

For the records, most Christians in the U.S. are Catholics.


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07 Mar 2011, 7:02 pm

Some people are under the whole misconception that it's science vs Religion, Evolution vs Creationalism (sp)

But it's not that simple or black and white.



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07 Mar 2011, 7:16 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Some people are under the whole misconception that it's science vs Religion, Evolution vs Creationalism (sp)

But it's not that simple or black and white.

...what isn't? I also don't remember anyone saying anything was black and white.



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07 Mar 2011, 7:19 pm

Biokinetica wrote:
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Some people are under the whole misconception that it's science vs Religion, Evolution vs Creationalism (sp)

But it's not that simple or black and white.

...what isn't? I also don't remember anyone saying anything was black and white.


People imply it all the time.
I got the belief of "creationalism" forced upon me on this site because I simply said I wasn't an athiest, when it's completely wrong.

People seem to dismiss the fact that you can believe in evolution, an initial energy source (god), look at the bible as a possible record of past events and not be religious all at the same time.



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07 Mar 2011, 7:20 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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Some people are under the whole misconception that it's science vs Religion, Evolution vs Creationalism (sp)

But it's not that simple or black and white.

...what isn't? I also don't remember anyone saying anything was black and white.


People imply it all the time. People seem to dismiss the fact that you can believe in evolution, an initial energy source (god), look at the bible as a possible record of past events and not be religious all at the same time.

I don't remember anyone disputing that. But the topic is specifically religion, not pseudoscience.



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07 Mar 2011, 7:23 pm

Biokinetica wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Biokinetica wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Some people are under the whole misconception that it's science vs Religion, Evolution vs Creationalism (sp)

But it's not that simple or black and white.

...what isn't? I also don't remember anyone saying anything was black and white.


People imply it all the time. People seem to dismiss the fact that you can believe in evolution, an initial energy source (god), look at the bible as a possible record of past events and not be religious all at the same time.

I don't remember anyone disputing that. But the topic is specifically religion, not pseudoscience.


Actually I didn't ask you if people were disputing it, I didn't ask you anything at all. And it is relevant - If people are going to assume I'm or others re some religious nut for not being an athiest I want to clear that up.



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07 Mar 2011, 8:13 pm

What you said about creation and evolution doesn't (directly) apply to religion. That is a spiritual belief. A religion is the doctrine of a belief system that purports to either have, or know a method to finding the relationship between humanity and various values. That belief contained neither.

However, I think you're asking for a bit much with the bible. The bible is a collection of christian allegory; to believe anything it says, one must be quite religious.



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07 Mar 2011, 10:28 pm

Biokinetica wrote:
What you said about creation and evolution doesn't (directly) apply to religion. That is a spiritual belief. A religion is the doctrine of a belief system that purports to either have, or know a method to finding the relationship between humanity and various values. That belief contained neither.

However, I think you're asking for a bit much with the bible. The bible is a collection of christian allegory; to believe anything it says, one must be quite religious.


Virgin births, talking snakes and donkeys, alchemy, and Jewish zombies don't do it for you, empirically? :lol:


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07 Mar 2011, 11:25 pm

Yeah, lets continue taking the piss out of non Athiests shall we? This is what I mean. I never implied those are the things in the bible worth noting. I was more thinking of the great flood.



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08 Mar 2011, 6:30 pm

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Yeah, lets continue taking the piss out of non Athiests shall we? This is what I mean. I never implied those are the things in the bible worth noting. I was more thinking of the great flood.


Hence my smiley face, indicating a liberal dose of non-literalism.
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08 Mar 2011, 11:37 pm

I don't think I've ever formed any sort of real bond with someone who believes in the metaphysical as if it's just as real as the ground beneath their feet, as if it's science rather than philosophy. (don't misunderstand me, I enjoy the study of philosophy, I'm just more of a Sartre fan than a Descartes fan) I don't like watching people struggle with cognitive dissonance. I just think it's a lot more respectful of my fellow humans that if I pity them for their choices, I keep them out of my personal life and certainly don't wander into theirs either. It'd be nice to be given the same respect, but people are people and they have to decide for themselves how they're going to treat others.

I'm making no claims to knowledge of the existence or non-existence of anything that is not demonstrable. I don't intend to stop anyone who does, but I won't indulge them either. I don't think I could ever date a religious person for this reason. I'm not offended by religious people, I don't think they're wrong or right... they're just people like me. It's not on my shoulders if someone thinks ill of me and it's not on their shoulders if I think ill of them.



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08 Mar 2011, 11:45 pm

I need a virgin to sacrifice to Satan at the next solstice.

Any volunteers or are you too prejudiced to date a Satanist?



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09 Mar 2011, 3:12 am

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I need a virgin to sacrifice to Satan at the next solstice.

Any volunteers or are you too prejudiced to date a Satanist?


The trick is finding a virgin. I guess if you're open to men, that wouldn't be too difficult to get but you'll have to explain upfront what "sacrifice" really means in Satanism.



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09 Mar 2011, 4:36 am

Never, I would never, ever date any woman who was even remotely serious about any form of Christianity or any religion for that matter that has a "savior". I really don't even want to get started here because religion is such a heated topic for me, I passionately dislike organized religions like christianity, judaism, islam, any religion that professes to be "the one, true religion" with dogmatic teachings that can be summarized with "believe in our savior or suffer in hell for all eternity" type concepts.

Religion is why there have been conflicts and wars for THOUSANDS of years. If you don't believe me please, pick up the bible and see for yourself. For example the genocide of the Canaanite people of the now modern day israel/palestine. They were victims of systematic destruction because why? "god" supposedly told Moses to do so. Things like that are still happening to day and have been happening for thousands of years at the hands of radical religious fanatics. Religion is why the world trade towers were destroyed. Religion religion religion... i could go on and on.. Religion I think is the most destructive force ever known to mankind.

I could try and say that the world would be a better place without religion but honestly, I think it's a deep down problem with humanity to begin with. If we were to abolish religion we would only find other reasons to destroy and be intolerant of each other's differences. By the way I was a Christian for a year and a half I studied church doctrine a good amount and I understand the gist of Christianity and it's teachings.