Physical Beauty is Temporary

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18 Mar 2012, 3:01 am

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As for me I'll probably look like a burnt out metalhead/rocker chick when I'm 40......or sooner.


Many people in the music industry age quickly or poorly but I think that may be due to lifestyle, excessive make up use, drugs and alcohol dehydrate the skin and make people look older.

The best thing to do is stay out of the sun, stay away from smoking and alcohol, drink 8 pints of water a day and moisturise the skin three times a day.


Well I am doing my best to stay away from cigarettes and I don't really wear make up other then the occasional eyeliner.....but I can't quite say the same for the other things mentioned, I don't know i don't really care if I look like a burnt out metalhead by the age of 40.


Well that's a good start :) Cigarettes really do drain people and make them look older. Make up isn't bad but it can dry the skin out, dehydration is the main cause of ageing.



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18 Mar 2012, 3:06 am

you're young, so maybe you don't really understand how absurd it is that our culture is hyperfocused on people aged roughly 16 to 25. even people who are older are expected to idolise youth and even to try to look like them. it makes no sense to value youthful appearance above natural aging.

there is nothing inherently better about appearing young. and i am saying this as a person who often gets mistaken for someone much younger. it is ridiculous, like society somehow values me more because the years of my life do NOT show on my face, yet all of the things i am proud of are things i am gaining with time.

i would rather be valued for my contributions to society, my wisdom, and my character - all of which often improve with age (though not always). natural aging can be an outward sign of inward changes, and people can make a conscious choice to embrace that or not.


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18 Mar 2012, 3:25 am

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you're young, so maybe you don't really understand how absurd it is that our culture is hyperfocused on people aged roughly 16 to 25. even people who are older are expected to idolise youth and even to try to look like them. it makes no sense to value youthful appearance above natural aging.

there is nothing inherently better about appearing young. and i am saying this as a person who often gets mistaken for someone much younger. it is ridiculous, like society somehow values me more because the years of my life do NOT show on my face, yet all of the things i am proud of are things i am gaining with time.

i would rather be valued for my contributions to society, my wisdom, and my character - all of which often improve with age (though not always). natural aging can be an outward sign of inward changes, and people can make a conscious choice to embrace that or not.


Yes but the point is as technology advances, people will be able to genetically alter themselves to look any way they want. Of course most people are going to opt for looking younger and smoother as opposed to looking wrinkled? I can't truly say at what age people feel at their peak but maybe people want to relive that early period of their life for as long as they can. Maybe I'm not old enough to truly understand this subject but your comment has definitely made me question certain aspects.

First impressions aren't based on internal factors, they are based on presentation and appearance, I guess that's just how it is. In the long run however, if I was going to employ someone, I would choose someone with more wisdom, maturity and character over someone with a prettier face or better sense of charisma.



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18 Mar 2012, 3:31 am

Wolfheart wrote:
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As for me I'll probably look like a burnt out metalhead/rocker chick when I'm 40......or sooner.


Many people in the music industry age quickly or poorly but I think that may be due to lifestyle, excessive make up use, drugs and alcohol dehydrate the skin and make people look older.

The best thing to do is stay out of the sun, stay away from smoking and alcohol, drink 8 pints of water a day and moisturise the skin three times a day.


Well I am doing my best to stay away from cigarettes and I don't really wear make up other then the occasional eyeliner.....but I can't quite say the same for the other things mentioned, I don't know i don't really care if I look like a burnt out metalhead by the age of 40.


Well that's a good start :) Cigarettes really do drain people and make them look older. Make up isn't bad but it can dry the skin out, dehydration is the main cause of ageing.


well that's not why I don't want to smoke cigarettes.......its just too expensive especially right now.


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18 Mar 2012, 7:42 am

I will have to wear a bag over my head at the meet up with wolfheart :lol:

*goes and drinks more water*


It will be interesting to see if his opinion changes as he reaches 40. I find it surprising that a man in his very early 20's cares so much about aging as most people that age are not concerned so much with looks, he sounds more like victoria beckham, highly valuing looks and desperately seeking actions to ameliorate aging.

wolfheart do you think you over focus on looks because you feel bad about having an aspergers personality, maybe you want to compensate for it or felt if you looked better people would like you more? I know i felt like that.



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18 Mar 2012, 8:08 am

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Physical Beauty is Temporary


Life is temporary :lol:

If physical beauty was everlasting, then I'd be worried

And we'd have corpses so beautiful we couldn't bring ourselves to bury or burn them.


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18 Mar 2012, 8:19 am

^^but Pamela Anderson's silicon balls will remain for a very long time even after death....
A beautiful silicon mummy, she will be.



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18 Mar 2012, 12:26 pm

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I will have to wear a bag over my head at the meet up with wolfheart :lol:

*goes and drinks more water*


It will be interesting to see if his opinion changes as he reaches 40. I find it surprising that a man in his very early 20's cares so much about aging as most people that age are not concerned so much with looks, he sounds more like victoria beckham, highly valuing looks and desperately seeking actions to ameliorate aging.

wolfheart do you think you over focus on looks because you feel bad about having an aspergers personality, maybe you want to compensate for it or felt if you looked better people would like you more? I know i felt like that.


I hope you don't feel self concious when you meet me, Raven, you're an attractive lady and I'm certainly not perfect. I don't feel bad about being on the spectrum, I've come to terms with that and it took time. I think it's just about wanting the best for yourself, I don't think the expectations of society are extremely important to me, I don't see what's wrong with wanting to take care of yourself at all.



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18 Mar 2012, 12:45 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
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I will have to wear a bag over my head at the meet up with wolfheart :lol:

*goes and drinks more water*


It will be interesting to see if his opinion changes as he reaches 40. I find it surprising that a man in his very early 20's cares so much about aging as most people that age are not concerned so much with looks, he sounds more like victoria beckham, highly valuing looks and desperately seeking actions to ameliorate aging.

wolfheart do you think you over focus on looks because you feel bad about having an aspergers personality, maybe you want to compensate for it or felt if you looked better people would like you more? I know i felt like that.


I hope you don't feel self concious when you meet me, Raven, you're an attractive lady and I'm certainly not perfect. I don't feel bad about being on the spectrum, I've come to terms with that and it took time. I think it's just about wanting the best for yourself, I don't think the expectations of society are extremely important to me, I don't see what's wrong with wanting to take care of yourself at all.

no worries, I was teasing you, it will take more than that to make me feel self conscious and besides I have so many other flaws for you to judge me on, a few wrinkles are nothing!

Out of interest are you a perfectionist at all? its interesting why you feel the drive to be the best version of yourself, most people care more about the 'now' and hedonisticly want the pleasant experience of 'bad food or drink' and are not able to exert the self control you seem able to.



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18 Mar 2012, 1:46 pm

The-Raven wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
The-Raven wrote:
I will have to wear a bag over my head at the meet up with wolfheart :lol:

*goes and drinks more water*


It will be interesting to see if his opinion changes as he reaches 40. I find it surprising that a man in his very early 20's cares so much about aging as most people that age are not concerned so much with looks, he sounds more like victoria beckham, highly valuing looks and desperately seeking actions to ameliorate aging.

wolfheart do you think you over focus on looks because you feel bad about having an aspergers personality, maybe you want to compensate for it or felt if you looked better people would like you more? I know i felt like that.


I hope you don't feel self concious when you meet me, Raven, you're an attractive lady and I'm certainly not perfect. I don't feel bad about being on the spectrum, I've come to terms with that and it took time. I think it's just about wanting the best for yourself, I don't think the expectations of society are extremely important to me, I don't see what's wrong with wanting to take care of yourself at all.

no worries, I was teasing you, it will take more than that to make me feel self conscious and besides I have so many other flaws for you to judge me on, a few wrinkles are nothing!

Out of interest are you a perfectionist at all? its interesting why you feel the drive to be the best version of yourself, most people care more about the 'now' and hedonisticly want the pleasant experience of 'bad food or drink' and are not able to exert the self control you seem able to.


I want to be the best I can be and achieve all I can achieve, there isn't any reason not to. There are many activities that aren't detrimental and they provide a greater sense of achievement over a second of satisfaction a person might get from smoking a cigarette or eating something that isn't healthy. If people do enjoy that, that's up to them and I am not stopping them by any means, it just isn't something I would recommend.

I like working out, I enjoy yoga, I'm getting into rowing, I enjoy walking around cities and admiring the architecture, I guess I just enjoy doing those activities and they are more productive in the long run.



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18 Mar 2012, 1:58 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
The-Raven wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
The-Raven wrote:
I will have to wear a bag over my head at the meet up with wolfheart :lol:

*goes and drinks more water*


It will be interesting to see if his opinion changes as he reaches 40. I find it surprising that a man in his very early 20's cares so much about aging as most people that age are not concerned so much with looks, he sounds more like victoria beckham, highly valuing looks and desperately seeking actions to ameliorate aging.

wolfheart do you think you over focus on looks because you feel bad about having an aspergers personality, maybe you want to compensate for it or felt if you looked better people would like you more? I know i felt like that.


I hope you don't feel self concious when you meet me, Raven, you're an attractive lady and I'm certainly not perfect. I don't feel bad about being on the spectrum, I've come to terms with that and it took time. I think it's just about wanting the best for yourself, I don't think the expectations of society are extremely important to me, I don't see what's wrong with wanting to take care of yourself at all.

no worries, I was teasing you, it will take more than that to make me feel self conscious and besides I have so many other flaws for you to judge me on, a few wrinkles are nothing!

Out of interest are you a perfectionist at all? its interesting why you feel the drive to be the best version of yourself, most people care more about the 'now' and hedonisticly want the pleasant experience of 'bad food or drink' and are not able to exert the self control you seem able to.


I want to be the best I can be and achieve all I can achieve, there isn't any reason not to. There are many activities that aren't detrimental and they provide a greater sense of achievement over a second of satisfaction a person might get from smoking a cigarette or eating something that isn't healthy. If people do enjoy that, that's up to them and I am not stopping them by any means, it just isn't something I would recommend.

I like working out, I enjoy yoga, I'm getting into rowing, I enjoy walking around cities and admiring the architecture, I guess I just enjoy doing those activities and they are more productive in the long run.

That sounds very admirable :D

Your a very interesting young man.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:05 pm

The-Raven wrote:
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I want to be the best I can be and achieve all I can achieve, there isn't any reason not to. There are many activities that aren't detrimental and they provide a greater sense of achievement over a second of satisfaction a person might get from smoking a cigarette or eating something that isn't healthy. If people do enjoy that, that's up to them and I am not stopping them by any means, it just isn't something I would recommend.

I like working out, I enjoy yoga, I'm getting into rowing, I enjoy walking around cities and admiring the architecture, I guess I just enjoy doing those activities and they are more productive in the long run.

That sounds very admirable :D

Your a very interesting young man.


Thanks Raven, you're a very interesting person too :) it will be good when we can have a proper chat in the pub.



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18 Mar 2012, 7:28 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
That's some guy in 2002:
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k61 ... 97fdce.jpg


That's the same some guy few minutes ago:

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k61 ... 45f001.jpg


He's not getting better looking for sure.


I wouldn't say so, he's got a bit of the Jean Reno look going on.