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29 Oct 2012, 7:43 pm

Once I did a dramatic reading of a Nietzsche book to a girl, and she loved it.
With another one, I showed her charts about total human population through time.

They were both very successful dates. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you talk about, but how do you do it. And yet again, when a woman talks about lame stuff and get men to date them anyway, those men have usually further motives, otherwise they wouldn't be listening if it's so dull.


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29 Oct 2012, 7:58 pm

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when a woman talks about lame stuff and get men to date them anyway, those men have usually further motives, otherwise they wouldn't be listening if it's so dull.

And in reality its the same for when a man talks about boring things to a woman.



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29 Oct 2012, 9:49 pm

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as ive told both of you. Its not the topic of the conversation, rather how interesting the conversation.

That not my point. What I was saying is women can talk about lame stuff and still get men to date them.
A woman can talk about adam sandler and most men wouldn't care. But as a man you have to talk about whatever the woman find interesting. men have to have great and interesting conversation but women can get away with stupid and lame conversation


Last time I talked with a woman in a flirty matter we were talking about kitchen appliances. It doesnt get more bland than that. If theres enough involvement by both sides anything can be turned into a good conversation. But even the most exciting of things will be boring if its just one sided.

Yo that what I been saying. If there enough involvement on both side then you can have a good conversation. Right.
If women actualy try to talk then they wouldn't have to listen to all my lame stuff. but I have been getting better, last time I talk to a lady I Talk about college related stuff.



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29 Oct 2012, 9:52 pm

billiscool wrote:
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MXH wrote:
as ive told both of you. Its not the topic of the conversation, rather how interesting the conversation.

That not my point. What I was saying is women can talk about lame stuff and still get men to date them.
A woman can talk about adam sandler and most men wouldn't care. But as a man you have to talk about whatever the woman find interesting. men have to have great and interesting conversation but women can get away with stupid and lame conversation


Last time I talked with a woman in a flirty matter we were talking about kitchen appliances. It doesnt get more bland than that. If theres enough involvement by both sides anything can be turned into a good conversation. But even the most exciting of things will be boring if its just one sided.

Yo that what I been saying. If there enough involvement on both side then you can have a good conversation. Right.
If women actualy try to talk then they wouldn't have to listen to all my lame stuff. but I have been getting better, last time I talk to a lady I Talk about college related stuff.


you're not getting it are you? If shes not talking chances are shes not interested. find someone who is



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29 Oct 2012, 9:56 pm

my whole issues and I've been saying and say this to everyone is that women too can talk and change conversations.
I Don't think it fair that women just DQ me because sometimes I don't have the best conversation subjects.
I just meet the woman for first time. How do I suppose to know what she likes?
Even if I talk about more serious stuff like ''you go college'' ''do you come here often'' ''what movies are into''
they (women) still want me to keep conversation going. Like they can't say anything.
Maybe It just young 20 year old women thing.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:00 pm

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my whole issues and I've been saying and say this to everyone is that women too can talk and change conversations.
I Don't think it fair that women just DQ me because sometimes I don't have the best conversation subjects.
I just meet the woman for first time. How do I suppose to know what she likes?
Even if I talk about more serious stuff like ''you go college'' ''do you come here often'' ''what movies are into''
they (women) still want me to keep conversation going. Like they can't say anything.
Maybe It just young 20 year old women thing.


Again, the same. If they are interested, they make an effort. If they are not interested, they won't.

Personally, I measure that through a mix of body language and sentence length. If she gives short answers to your questions, looks at her watch, wears a fake smile, doesn't ask questions about yourself, and generally looks unfriendly, move on. Otherwise, keep talking. It also makes me wonder, do you have trouble talking to other guys you don't know well?


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29 Oct 2012, 10:00 pm

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my whole issues and I've been saying and say this to everyone is that women too can talk and change conversations.
I Don't think it fair that women just DQ me because sometimes I don't have the best conversation subjects.
I just meet the woman for first time. How do I suppose to know what she likes?
Even if I talk about more serious stuff like ''you go college'' ''do you come here often'' ''what movies are into''
they (women) still want me to keep conversation going. Like they can't say anything.
Maybe It just young 20 year old women thing.


they arent doing it because of the subject. Theyre doing it cause they dont feel like talking to you.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:01 pm

MXH wrote:
billiscool wrote:
MXH wrote:
billiscool wrote:
MXH wrote:
as ive told both of you. Its not the topic of the conversation, rather how interesting the conversation.

That not my point. What I was saying is women can talk about lame stuff and still get men to date them.
A woman can talk about adam sandler and most men wouldn't care. But as a man you have to talk about whatever the woman find interesting. men have to have great and interesting conversation but women can get away with stupid and lame conversation


Last time I talked with a woman in a flirty matter we were talking about kitchen appliances. It doesnt get more bland than that. If theres enough involvement by both sides anything can be turned into a good conversation. But even the most exciting of things will be boring if its just one sided.

Yo that what I been saying. If there enough involvement on both side then you can have a good conversation. Right.
If women actualy try to talk then they wouldn't have to listen to all my lame stuff. but I have been getting better, last time I talk to a lady I Talk about college related stuff.


you're not getting it are you? If shes not talking chances are shes not interested. find someone who is


What happen to common courtsey. Even if the woman does not have an interest in me. That shouldn't mean she can't have a basic conversation. Look I talk to women I have no interest in either. so your saying it's ok for women to ignore guys if she not interest so the only guys she can talk to are guys she like. Dam sound like an elitist. Like a snobby rich person who can't talk to a lower peasant. Im a christians and Believe in love thy neighbor and for you to say the women can act like a rich elitist is wrong.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:11 pm

billiscool wrote:
MXH wrote:
billiscool wrote:
MXH wrote:
billiscool wrote:
MXH wrote:
as ive told both of you. Its not the topic of the conversation, rather how interesting the conversation.

That not my point. What I was saying is women can talk about lame stuff and still get men to date them.
A woman can talk about adam sandler and most men wouldn't care. But as a man you have to talk about whatever the woman find interesting. men have to have great and interesting conversation but women can get away with stupid and lame conversation


Last time I talked with a woman in a flirty matter we were talking about kitchen appliances. It doesnt get more bland than that. If theres enough involvement by both sides anything can be turned into a good conversation. But even the most exciting of things will be boring if its just one sided.

Yo that what I been saying. If there enough involvement on both side then you can have a good conversation. Right.
If women actualy try to talk then they wouldn't have to listen to all my lame stuff. but I have been getting better, last time I talk to a lady I Talk about college related stuff.


you're not getting it are you? If shes not talking chances are shes not interested. find someone who is


What happen to common courtsey. Even if the woman does not have an interest in me. That shouldn't mean she can't have a basic conversation. Look I talk to women I have no interest in either. so your saying it's ok for women to ignore guys if she not interest so the only guys she can talk to are guys she like. Dam sound like an elitist. Like a snobby rich person who can't talk to a lower peasant. Im a christians and Believe in love thy neighbor and for you to say the women can act like a rich elitist is wrong.


Dude, that's your problem. You have a false sense of entitlement. Nobody is obligated to talk to you, interested or not. You act like the world owes you something, and that most likely shows in your conversations. I don't talk to people I'm not interested in either. I'll admit some people are nicer about it than others, but still, nobody is obligated to talk to you whatsoever. Try removing that chip from your shoulder.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:12 pm

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What happened to common courtesy?. Even if the woman does not have an interest in me, that shouldn't mean she can't have a basic conversation. Look I talk to women I have no interest in either. So you're saying it's ok for women to ignore guys if she not interest so the only guys she can talk to are guys she likes. Damn sounds like an elitist. Like a snobby rich person who can't talk to a lower peasant. I'm a christian and Believe in love thy neighbor and for you to say the women can act like a rich elitist is wrong.


:lol:.

They are being polite. If they weren't, they would just give you the silent treatment or something. Politeness requires people to answer if they are being talked to, to acknowledge the other's presence, but not much more. If someone doesn't really want to talk to someone else, especially an stranger, then they shouldn't.

And what do you talk about with women you are not interested in? What's your definition of "being interested in"?


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29 Oct 2012, 10:15 pm

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What happened to common courtesy?. Even if the woman does not have an interest in me, that shouldn't mean she can't have a basic conversation. Look I talk to women I have no interest in either. So you're saying it's ok for women to ignore guys if she not interest so the only guys she can talk to are guys she likes. Damn sounds like an elitist. Like a snobby rich person who can't talk to a lower peasant. I'm a christian and Believe in love thy neighbor and for you to say the women can act like a rich elitist is wrong.


:lol:.

They are being polite. If they weren't, they would just give you the silent treatment or something. Politeness requires people to answer if they are being talked to, to acknowledge the other's presence, but not much more. If someone doesn't really want to talk to someone else, especially an stranger, then they shouldn't.

And what do you talk about with women you are not interested in? What's your definition of "being interested in"?


Exactly what im trying to say. They are being polite by just letting you talk even if they have no interest. Theres plenty of things they could do if they wanted to be rude.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:30 pm

sense of entitlement. Ok, so all you are saying that is ok for women to totaly snub men she not into.
Right, unless Im the man of her dreams. she does not have to talk to me or any other guys she does not find attractive.
Im not talking about going on a date, Im just talking about just a simple basic ''hey how are you'' type.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:36 pm

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sense of entitlement. Ok, so all you are saying that is ok for women to totaly snub men she not into.
Right, unless Im the man of her dreams. she does not have to talk to me or any other guys she does not find attractive.
Im not talking about going on a date, Im just talking about just a simple basic ''hey how are you'' type.


Yep, thats all perfectly right. And you have the right to do the same onto others



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29 Oct 2012, 10:41 pm

let me be clear Im not talking about hitting on women like trying to ask her out.
Im talking about just simple human communication like how are you.
how are doing, or just small talk. But thank god there are alot of good women out there that don't
act like elitist. Don't snub men because they don't find them attractive. You guys can keep making all the excuses
for all your rude elitist women all you want. I'm staying away from them kind of women.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:48 pm

i know what you're talking about. its not rude elitist, its personal choice and freedom



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29 Oct 2012, 10:50 pm

if a women feels threaten or the guy is being mean or rude to the woman, then yes she can ignore him and snub him.