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13 Mar 2013, 6:01 pm

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http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/sexthoughts.htm

There is some variability--according to one study, gents think about sex between 1 and 388 times per day, while ladies ranged considerably lower. We also use our penises when we pee, and must think about our little friend then, too.

actually, the medians for men and women were surprisingly close:

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In the study, the median number of young men’s thought about sex stood at almost 19 times per day. Young women in the study reported a median of nearly 10 thoughts about sex per day.

As a group, the men also thought about food almost 18 times per day and sleep almost 11 times per day, compared to women’s median number of thoughts about eating and sleep, at nearly 15 times and about 8 1/2 times, respectively.

considering that women supposedly think about everything a bit less, it is quite possible that they are underestimating to make themselves appear more temperate. considering that it has been shown that women lie more often than men about their numbers of sex partners to make it appear that they are less sexual than they are, i would think it could be likely.


Since I started going and hanging out at a place with a LOT of 20 something females.. I can say basically all they talk about is sex.. It's amazingly similar to being surrounded by what the media shows to be typical 20 something males. Where as all of my male friends.. mainly what we talk about is Pop Culture and Table Top Games..

This is an interesting thing since it is basically the whole point of the movie 'Zero Charisma' that is soon to come out... Guy who identifies as geek, gets no sex and no respect.. guy who identifies as Hipster, yet still plays geeky games.. gets loads of sex and tons of respect. Essentially saying it's not the interest that destroys opportunity.. but presentation.


It's how a person looks basically

Look attractive enough and you can do whatever you please and people will still be all over you

Look unattractive and whatever you do people won't want to know about it

Most people can work this out for themself


To a point. It makes life easier being attractive. I lost weight and got nicer clothing, etc, people are way nicer to me now. It's not perfect, but it's certainly much better than before. Girls actually smile at me and stuff now.

that is too black n white and untrue


It's a fact and no amount of self-delusion will change it


Oops. Well yeah. Looks are a big deal. I'd say it's like at least 50-60% in how people deal with you. I know girls in general are much more friendly with me now compared to when I was 230lbs.



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13 Mar 2013, 6:08 pm

1000Knives wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/sexthoughts.htm

There is some variability--according to one study, gents think about sex between 1 and 388 times per day, while ladies ranged considerably lower. We also use our penises when we pee, and must think about our little friend then, too.

actually, the medians for men and women were surprisingly close:

Quote:
In the study, the median number of young men’s thought about sex stood at almost 19 times per day. Young women in the study reported a median of nearly 10 thoughts about sex per day.

As a group, the men also thought about food almost 18 times per day and sleep almost 11 times per day, compared to women’s median number of thoughts about eating and sleep, at nearly 15 times and about 8 1/2 times, respectively.

considering that women supposedly think about everything a bit less, it is quite possible that they are underestimating to make themselves appear more temperate. considering that it has been shown that women lie more often than men about their numbers of sex partners to make it appear that they are less sexual than they are, i would think it could be likely.


Since I started going and hanging out at a place with a LOT of 20 something females.. I can say basically all they talk about is sex.. It's amazingly similar to being surrounded by what the media shows to be typical 20 something males. Where as all of my male friends.. mainly what we talk about is Pop Culture and Table Top Games..

This is an interesting thing since it is basically the whole point of the movie 'Zero Charisma' that is soon to come out... Guy who identifies as geek, gets no sex and no respect.. guy who identifies as Hipster, yet still plays geeky games.. gets loads of sex and tons of respect. Essentially saying it's not the interest that destroys opportunity.. but presentation.


It's how a person looks basically

Look attractive enough and you can do whatever you please and people will still be all over you

Look unattractive and whatever you do people won't want to know about it

Most people can work this out for themself


To a point. It makes life easier being attractive. I lost weight and got nicer clothing, etc, people are way nicer to me now. It's not perfect, but it's certainly much better than before. Girls actually smile at me and stuff now.

that is too black n white and untrue


It's a fact and no amount of self-delusion will change it


You appear to have just done a quotation with no actual comment of your own



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13 Mar 2013, 6:53 pm

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I'm in my 30s and had some questions. For you men, do you like women who like to drink and like to see them get drunk? Do you like to see women in tight clothing? I have seen various music videos where the women are very pretty, skinny, and wear tight clothing or seductive intimates. Where would you take a woman for your first date? Is intimacy really important on the first date?


Not really. Drunk women are quite a turnoff. 1-2 drinks or something is OK for me, and I'd be OK with whatever girl I liked drinking the same amount, but if I saw her getting hammered on the first date, I'd run away.

Tight clothing. Well, that's tricky. See, most guys do like revealing clothing as long as a girl is good looking, that's kinda fact. HOWEVER, at the same point, a girl wearing revealing clothing outside of, say, the gym or something, all the time, I'd probably think lesser of her. It would be like if I was walking around all jacked and wearing a spandex muscle shirt or something to the supermarket. You'd think of me as a showoff/tease. Admittedly, women can be more revealing without trying, and the general clothing of the day is now kinda revealing by default, just because "fashion" says it's "cool" or whatever. I'd rather not have any potential date or girlfriend dressing like a Fundamentalist Mormon or a nun or something, but having her walk around in short shorts and a tank top all the time probably would make me uncomfortable.

As far as pretty and skinny, yes, I like pretty and skinny women. I can go for a woman that's a bit thicker, and I tend to shy away from ones that are really rails looking actually, as I do like curves. But there is a point where most women get pretty unattractive if they're packing extra fat weight. Of course muscle mass can change these things, it's great as it makes girls look even more curvy, as long as they don't get to a super low bodyfat and look "ripped." One celeb I got a bit of a crush on is Olympic weightlifter Lydia Valentin. She's hot. 5'7 and competes at 165, so she's probably 170ish during the year. Beautiful girl.

Where would I take a woman on my first date? Uh. Somewhere cheap. I'm kinda broke. Maybe some cheap Asian or Indian restaurant. I like international food, and I like women who are reasonably adventurous. I wouldn't like, take her to a sushi place and order her live octopus or something, but I want someone who likes a variety of things, likes trying new things, or best case scenario can introduce me to some interesting things. I don't want a girl who will only like, eat hamburgers, pizza and fries. Barring restaurant, maybe go to the grocery store and grill burgers or chicken at a park? Hiking would be really cool, too, I love hiking, but hiking on a first date I've heard can give off a "hide yo kids, hide yo wife" kinda vibe, so even though I love hiking and stuff like that, I'd probably not suggest it until she felt comfortable around me. I also ice skate a lot, too (training for figure skating,) so I guess that's a potential date idea, but to me it's as routine as going to get my mail, but it's uh...something.

Sex on the first date. No, that's not my expectation at all. Hell, I'd be lucky if a girl kept talking to me after a first date after I annoyed her to death rambling about my special interests. Besides that, as a Christian I'm not supposed to be having premarital sex. As far as the reality of how that'll play out, I'm not really sure. Even in the "prude" 1950s, something like 97% of people admitted to having premarital sex. So my aim if I can't hit the marriage one would be to at least wait until I'm in some semblance of a committed relationship.

I think most of what you posted is basically pretty much stereotypical "hookup" culture that is very prevalent nowadays. People don't even really court or date anymore actually. People are just like "hey you're hot, wanna have sex" and that seems to be it. And this is unfortunately the nice progressive future of America. It's leading to massive rates of illegitimate children without fathers and with unprepared/unhelped mothers. I could go on a long long rant with this, but pretty much everything you posted is a symptom of a giant societal problem.


Well, we seem to have a match!

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13 Mar 2013, 7:09 pm

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I'm in my 30s and had some questions. For you men, do you like women who like to drink and like to see them get drunk? Do you like to see women in tight clothing? I have seen various music videos where the women are very pretty, skinny, and wear tight clothing or seductive intimates. Where would you take a woman for your first date? Is intimacy really important on the first date?


Not really. Drunk women are quite a turnoff. 1-2 drinks or something is OK for me, and I'd be OK with whatever girl I liked drinking the same amount, but if I saw her getting hammered on the first date, I'd run away.

(My ex boyfriend did often get drink with many glasses of his favorite beer, Guinness. He can probably have 10 or more. He was a silly drunk. I was ok with it though. But I was so young back then. I don't like to be around people who are intoxicated and can act violent. On our first date there was no alcohol involved. We went to a Silver Diner for dinner then went to a dance club close to the Marine Base he was stationed at)

Tight clothing. Well, that's tricky. See, most guys do like revealing clothing as long as a girl is good looking, that's kinda fact. HOWEVER, at the same point, a girl wearing revealing clothing outside of, say, the gym or something, all the time, I'd probably think lesser of her. It would be like if I was walking around all jacked and wearing a spandex muscle shirt or something to the supermarket. You'd think of me as a showoff/tease. Admittedly, women can be more revealing without trying, and the general clothing of the day is now kinda revealing by default, just because "fashion" says it's "cool" or whatever. I'd rather not have any potential date or girlfriend dressing like a Fundamentalist Mormon or a nun or something, but having her walk around in short shorts and a tank top all the time probably would make me uncomfortable.

(I agree with you. I don't like to see women in these tight shorts and tight tops no matter how thin or fat they are. It's just nasty. I see some women dressing like this at work! I don't like skirts that much. I prefer longer summer dresses)

As far as pretty and skinny, yes, I like pretty and skinny women. I can go for a woman that's a bit thicker, and I tend to shy away from ones that are really rails looking actually, as I do like curves. But there is a point where most women get pretty unattractive if they're packing extra fat weight. Of course muscle mass can change these things, it's great as it makes girls look even more curvy, as long as they don't get to a super low bodyfat and look "ripped." One celeb I got a bit of a crush on is Olympic weightlifter Lydia Valentin. She's hot. 5'7 and competes at 165, so she's probably 170ish during the year. Beautiful girl.

(For me with men I don't want to date someone who is so scrawy and doesn't have any muscles. I love men who have biceps and tatooes. It all depends though on the type of tatoo. If its religious I'm ok with that. If it depicts any profanity or devil worship or an ex girlfriend I'm out)

Where would I take a woman on my first date? Uh. Somewhere cheap. I'm kinda broke. Maybe some cheap Asian or Indian restaurant. I like international food, and I like women who are reasonably adventurous. I wouldn't like, take her to a sushi place and order her live octopus or something, but I want someone who likes a variety of things, likes trying new things, or best case scenario can introduce me to some interesting things. I don't want a girl who will only like, eat hamburgers, pizza and fries. Barring restaurant, maybe go to the grocery store and grill burgers or chicken at a park? Hiking would be really cool, too, I love hiking, but hiking on a first date I've heard can give off a "hide yo kids, hide yo wife" kinda vibe, so even though I love hiking and stuff like that, I'd probably not suggest it until she felt comfortable around me. I also ice skate a lot, too (training for figure skating,) so I guess that's a potential date idea, but to me it's as routine as going to get my mail, but it's uh...something.

(That reminds me a long time ago before I even met my ex, Morgan. On our first date we went to a local grocery store and he got a few food items. He used to be a cook in the US Marines. We ate dinner at his apartment. We sat on the couch together with a blanket over us watching TV. He had a Chihuahua that was house trained to use a litter box which I found odd and cute. No sex involved. Alot of hugging and holding hands. I love my military men. I think back then I used the personal ads and search specfically for white military men. :wink: )

Sex on the first date. No, that's not my expectation at all. Hell, I'd be lucky if a girl kept talking to me after a first date after I annoyed her to death rambling about my special interests. Besides that, as a Christian I'm not supposed to be having premarital sex. As far as the reality of how that'll play out, I'm not really sure. Even in the "prude" 1950s, something like 97% of people admitted to having premarital sex. So my aim if I can't hit the marriage one would be to at least wait until I'm in some semblance of a committed relationship.

(I'm a Christian too so no sex before marriage for me although at times you can get tempted if the girl or guy is good looking. Do you sometimes have dreams of having sex with a certain female celeb? I don't think its wrong. It's very natural I think for people to have dreams of having sex with a celeb that we like. I think you know who I'm talking about. Yet if my date asked me for sex, I would walk away and tell him to look in the yellow pages for a call girl. At times though I want to have sex to prove to the guy that I"m not naive, stupid, or immature. So I may do things that I will regret later on to make the guy love me. Whether its dancing around semi nude, sex, or whatever. But I will never try drugs or get drunk. I can't drink alcohol anyways since I get red in the face right away. Typical Asian thing.)

I think most of what you posted is basically pretty much stereotypical "hookup" culture that is very prevalent nowadays. People don't even really court or date anymore actually. People are just like "hey you're hot, wanna have sex" and that seems to be it. And this is unfortunately the nice progressive future of America. It's leading to massive rates of illegitimate children without fathers and with unprepared/unhelped mothers. I could go on a long long rant with this, but pretty much everything you posted is a symptom of a giant societal problem.


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They seem to enjoy this,with coffee of course :lol:


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13 Mar 2013, 8:13 pm

Finally a woman who knows the way to a man's heart. :salut:



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13 Mar 2013, 8:33 pm

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No, in fact I avoid women who think that's the definition of a 'fun time' or whatever.
No, I don't like women who dress in these new ways. It's only empowering several agendas (anti-feminism, rape culture etc)
And I'd also like to add, when these women say "Oh I dress this way because I like it" - BS. You like the attention, specifically the sexual attention. Why do I want a woman by my side who gets off on other men looking at her?
Think I'm wrong? If all men died tomorrow, would (straight) women wear makeup, wear high heels, tight clothing etc?
I could write pages about this, I'm gonna leave it at that.

I've never been on a "first date" despite having had relationships..
I would imagine not, if you mean physically intimate.

I like make-up sometimes :P :D


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13 Mar 2013, 9:27 pm

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They seem to enjoy this,with coffee of course :lol:


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13 Mar 2013, 9:31 pm

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No, in fact I avoid women who think that's the definition of a 'fun time' or whatever.
No, I don't like women who dress in these new ways. It's only empowering several agendas (anti-feminism, rape culture etc)
And I'd also like to add, when these women say "Oh I dress this way because I like it" - BS. You like the attention, specifically the sexual attention. Why do I want a woman by my side who gets off on other men looking at her?
Think I'm wrong? If all men died tomorrow, would (straight) women wear makeup, wear high heels, tight clothing etc?
I could write pages about this, I'm gonna leave it at that.

I've never been on a "first date" despite having had relationships..
I would imagine not, if you mean physically intimate.

I like make-up sometimes :P :D


That's ok.. I would be more concerned that you're a Christian who likes to argue :lol:



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That's ok.. I would be more concerned that you're a Christian who likes to argue :lol:

Is there any other kind?



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13 Mar 2013, 10:22 pm

I think having expectations is just going to lead to disappointment. Honestly, I really don't know what I want. Someone who is nice, loyal, helpful, understanding. Though some of that has to be earned, and involves a lot of my behavior. And I have to be able to help myself.



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13 Mar 2013, 10:56 pm

luvsterriers wrote:
I'm in my 30s and had some questions. For you men, do you like women who like to drink and like to see them get drunk? Do you like to see women in tight clothing? I have seen various music videos where the women are very pretty, skinny, and wear tight clothing or seductive intimates. Where would you take a woman for your first date? Is intimacy really important on the first date?


Interesting questions. I say interesting, because they remind me of what I've read before as to why men are attracted to beautiful women.

According to what I've read, men are naturally attracted to beautiful women because subconsciously, they are looking for the mate with the best genes and features to pass off to their offspring, or the next generation. It is a survival mechanism of sorts.

If you think about what you see in magazines, mass media, music videos, and other publications, you see women who have slender figures and beautiful faces, which somewhat supports the theory I mentioned above. Ok, I'm getting a little off topic, back to your questions:

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For you men, do you like women who like to drink and like to see them get drunk?


Personally, absolutely not. There is nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, and enjoying a little alcohol, but when you are drunk, you are not yourself, you are someone else completely. For instance, you could be naturally quiet, serious, and introverted, and getting drunk may turn you into a talkative, wild, and reckless. Alcohol also drastically decreases your sensibilities, sound judgement, and wisdom, since it is a depressant, and it also dehydrates you.

The reason why NT guys like drunk girls at bars and nightclubs is because they are a lot easier to talk to, there is a lot less chance of rejection, and because since a drunk girl isn't thinking clearly, she can be persuaded into doing things she normally wouldn't do.

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Do you like to see women in tight clothing? I have seen various music videos where the women are very pretty, skinny, and wear tight clothing or seductive intimates.


Personally, yes and no. I'll be honest you, if a guy likes seeing women wearing tight clothing, it isn't because the guy is interested in their personality :lol:. It is a lust thing, it is about creating physical sexual attraction, as opposed to attraction physically and common interest wise. I'm no feminist, but it is to objectify women as sexual objects, as opposed to people, when you think about it.

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Where would you take a woman for your first date? Is intimacy really important on the first date?


I'd take her to McDonalds. It is affordable- most of the meals are under $7. Drinks are only $1 each. LOL, jk :lol:

I'd take her to a decently nice ethnic or semi-ethnic restaurant- like Italian, Mexican, Greek, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thai cuisine, etc.

Intimacy is very important. What is the point in dating someone you are attracted to, but have no common interests with, and nothing you can create a foundation for your relationship on? Intimacy (in the form of shared common interests) is the glue that holds relationships together.

Now if you were implying physical intimacy (as in holding hands, kissing, etc), that's really pushing the buttons on a first date. The first date is just about trying to get to know the person- their personal interests, hobbies, beliefs, etc. Physical intimacy should be more of a second or third date kind of thing in my opinion.



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13 Mar 2013, 11:26 pm

luvsterriers wrote:
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I'm in my 30s and had some questions. For you men, do you like women who like to drink and like to see them get drunk? Do you like to see women in tight clothing? I have seen various music videos where the women are very pretty, skinny, and wear tight clothing or seductive intimates. Where would you take a woman for your first date? Is intimacy really important on the first date?


Not really. Drunk women are quite a turnoff. 1-2 drinks or something is OK for me, and I'd be OK with whatever girl I liked drinking the same amount, but if I saw her getting hammered on the first date, I'd run away.

(My ex boyfriend did often get drink with many glasses of his favorite beer, Guinness. He can probably have 10 or more. He was a silly drunk. I was ok with it though. But I was so young back then. I don't like to be around people who are intoxicated and can act violent. On our first date there was no alcohol involved. We went to a Silver Diner for dinner then went to a dance club close to the Marine Base he was stationed at)

Tight clothing. Well, that's tricky. See, most guys do like revealing clothing as long as a girl is good looking, that's kinda fact. HOWEVER, at the same point, a girl wearing revealing clothing outside of, say, the gym or something, all the time, I'd probably think lesser of her. It would be like if I was walking around all jacked and wearing a spandex muscle shirt or something to the supermarket. You'd think of me as a showoff/tease. Admittedly, women can be more revealing without trying, and the general clothing of the day is now kinda revealing by default, just because "fashion" says it's "cool" or whatever. I'd rather not have any potential date or girlfriend dressing like a Fundamentalist Mormon or a nun or something, but having her walk around in short shorts and a tank top all the time probably would make me uncomfortable.

(I agree with you. I don't like to see women in these tight shorts and tight tops no matter how thin or fat they are. It's just nasty. I see some women dressing like this at work! I don't like skirts that much. I prefer longer summer dresses)

As far as pretty and skinny, yes, I like pretty and skinny women. I can go for a woman that's a bit thicker, and I tend to shy away from ones that are really rails looking actually, as I do like curves. But there is a point where most women get pretty unattractive if they're packing extra fat weight. Of course muscle mass can change these things, it's great as it makes girls look even more curvy, as long as they don't get to a super low bodyfat and look "ripped." One celeb I got a bit of a crush on is Olympic weightlifter Lydia Valentin. She's hot. 5'7 and competes at 165, so she's probably 170ish during the year. Beautiful girl.

(For me with men I don't want to date someone who is so scrawy and doesn't have any muscles. I love men who have biceps and tatooes. It all depends though on the type of tatoo. If its religious I'm ok with that. If it depicts any profanity or devil worship or an ex girlfriend I'm out)

Where would I take a woman on my first date? Uh. Somewhere cheap. I'm kinda broke. Maybe some cheap Asian or Indian restaurant. I like international food, and I like women who are reasonably adventurous. I wouldn't like, take her to a sushi place and order her live octopus or something, but I want someone who likes a variety of things, likes trying new things, or best case scenario can introduce me to some interesting things. I don't want a girl who will only like, eat hamburgers, pizza and fries. Barring restaurant, maybe go to the grocery store and grill burgers or chicken at a park? Hiking would be really cool, too, I love hiking, but hiking on a first date I've heard can give off a "hide yo kids, hide yo wife" kinda vibe, so even though I love hiking and stuff like that, I'd probably not suggest it until she felt comfortable around me. I also ice skate a lot, too (training for figure skating,) so I guess that's a potential date idea, but to me it's as routine as going to get my mail, but it's uh...something.

(That reminds me a long time ago before I even met my ex, Morgan. On our first date we went to a local grocery store and he got a few food items. He used to be a cook in the US Marines. We ate dinner at his apartment. We sat on the couch together with a blanket over us watching TV. He had a Chihuahua that was house trained to use a litter box which I found odd and cute. No sex involved. Alot of hugging and holding hands. I love my military men. I think back then I used the personal ads and search specfically for white military men. :wink: )

Sex on the first date. No, that's not my expectation at all. Hell, I'd be lucky if a girl kept talking to me after a first date after I annoyed her to death rambling about my special interests. Besides that, as a Christian I'm not supposed to be having premarital sex. As far as the reality of how that'll play out, I'm not really sure. Even in the "prude" 1950s, something like 97% of people admitted to having premarital sex. So my aim if I can't hit the marriage one would be to at least wait until I'm in some semblance of a committed relationship.

(I'm a Christian too so no sex before marriage for me although at times you can get tempted if the girl or guy is good looking. Do you sometimes have dreams of having sex with a certain female celeb? I don't think its wrong. It's very natural I think for people to have dreams of having sex with a celeb that we like. I think you know who I'm talking about. Yet if my date asked me for sex, I would walk away and tell him to look in the yellow pages for a call girl. At times though I want to have sex to prove to the guy that I"m not naive, stupid, or immature. So I may do things that I will regret later on to make the guy love me. Whether its dancing around semi nude, sex, or whatever. But I will never try drugs or get drunk. I can't drink alcohol anyways since I get red in the face right away. Typical Asian thing.)

I think most of what you posted is basically pretty much stereotypical "hookup" culture that is very prevalent nowadays. People don't even really court or date anymore actually. People are just like "hey you're hot, wanna have sex" and that seems to be it. And this is unfortunately the nice progressive future of America. It's leading to massive rates of illegitimate children without fathers and with unprepared/unhelped mothers. I could go on a long long rant with this, but pretty much everything you posted is a symptom of a giant societal problem.


(So true)


I'm 185lbs at 5'9 and have 14" T-Rex arms. I only started doing bicep curls like a month ago. Oddly enough big arms don't help you lift big weights or run fast much (that's your legs and back/abs,) so that's why I didn't care. I still don't want huge chesticles (pecs.) That looks odd to me. I wanna get abs, too. Not at a bodyfat I look "fat" in clothes, but still don't have teh abz. My goal physique is Lu Xiaojun. Except I'm white. White person admiring a Chinese man's physique, weird eh?

As far as the premarital sex and Christianity, I don't know, when I used to go to a church with a lot of youth (now I'm Eastern Orthodox and my church is full of old folks and they're all like "yay we're happy you're a young person") from what I understand now, many of the couples even in church were having it. But, there's ideals to reach for. I wonder myself if I'll be a "baby daddy" or a father. I know many people my age are "baby daddies" right now. I wonder what even is a "sin" in the cultural context anymore. Single parenthood and no marriage has become commonplace. It's almost the new normal. Or it will be for my generation. So I wonder if I'll succumb to the environment. Being Orthodox puts me in a worse position. Protestants think it's weird and I'm not saved, and then Catholics are like "I'm OK, You're OK" but most Catholics aren't terribly serious. So I have no idea who I'm gonna date, as the Orthodox Church in America is really small and not filled with too many young people. And among the more "ethnic" churches unfortunately the rep is not too many young people really care about their faith either. And of course, some people blame the church and it's oldness and...Orthodoxness, on it all, but I do believe it's more just the culture surrounding everything.

I wonder at times if God made me have Aspergers/NVLD as a limiter if you would. Since I've been told I'm good looking enough to get basically any girl I want. I can't really relate to a lot of the problems posted here, as I know if I wanted to, I could go to some club somewhere and just be like "yo wanna f**k" and then hook up with some random girl if I felt inclined to. But that's not really the point. I'm also just really really dense. I have no idea when girls like me or are hitting on me. I've repeated this here, but a girl asked me if there was anything fun to do around here, and I responded "I don't do anything fun." She ended up giving me her number. My friend told me later I was an idiot and she wanted a one night stand. Oops. So I guess my ASD is a pretty good built in limiter. Maybe without it I'd have AIDS and a bunch of children or something. I'm still not perfect by any stretch, especially in the realm of the mind/fantasies (though I have no idea what celeb you're referring to) but at least it doesn't seem likely I'll be a "baby daddy" anytime soon.

Oh well.



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No, in fact I avoid women who think that's the definition of a 'fun time' or whatever.
No, I don't like women who dress in these new ways. It's only empowering several agendas (anti-feminism, rape culture etc)
And I'd also like to add, when these women say "Oh I dress this way because I like it" - BS. You like the attention, specifically the sexual attention. Why do I want a woman by my side who gets off on other men looking at her?
Think I'm wrong? If all men died tomorrow, would (straight) women wear makeup, wear high heels, tight clothing etc?
I could write pages about this, I'm gonna leave it at that.

I've never been on a "first date" despite having had relationships..
I would imagine not, if you mean physically intimate.

I like make-up sometimes :P :D


That's ok.. I would be more concerned that you're a Christian who likes to argue :lol:


So you want a compliant atheist then? Rather a contradiction in terms

Being a declared atheist implies having some level of intelligence and when you have that you are more inclined to have opinions and be prepared to defend them

I'm Christian by the way and find all the Christian bashing that occurs online rather tedious



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I'm in my 30s and had some questions. For you men, do you like women who like to drink and like to see them get drunk? Do you like to see women in tight clothing? I have seen various music videos where the women are very pretty, skinny, and wear tight clothing or seductive intimates. Where would you take a woman for your first date? Is intimacy really important on the first date?


Not really. Drunk women are quite a turnoff. 1-2 drinks or something is OK for me, and I'd be OK with whatever girl I liked drinking the same amount, but if I saw her getting hammered on the first date, I'd run away.

(My ex boyfriend did often get drink with many glasses of his favorite beer, Guinness. He can probably have 10 or more. He was a silly drunk. I was ok with it though. But I was so young back then. I don't like to be around people who are intoxicated and can act violent. On our first date there was no alcohol involved. We went to a Silver Diner for dinner then went to a dance club close to the Marine Base he was stationed at)

Tight clothing. Well, that's tricky. See, most guys do like revealing clothing as long as a girl is good looking, that's kinda fact. HOWEVER, at the same point, a girl wearing revealing clothing outside of, say, the gym or something, all the time, I'd probably think lesser of her. It would be like if I was walking around all jacked and wearing a spandex muscle shirt or something to the supermarket. You'd think of me as a showoff/tease. Admittedly, women can be more revealing without trying, and the general clothing of the day is now kinda revealing by default, just because "fashion" says it's "cool" or whatever. I'd rather not have any potential date or girlfriend dressing like a Fundamentalist Mormon or a nun or something, but having her walk around in short shorts and a tank top all the time probably would make me uncomfortable.

(I agree with you. I don't like to see women in these tight shorts and tight tops no matter how thin or fat they are. It's just nasty. I see some women dressing like this at work! I don't like skirts that much. I prefer longer summer dresses)

As far as pretty and skinny, yes, I like pretty and skinny women. I can go for a woman that's a bit thicker, and I tend to shy away from ones that are really rails looking actually, as I do like curves. But there is a point where most women get pretty unattractive if they're packing extra fat weight. Of course muscle mass can change these things, it's great as it makes girls look even more curvy, as long as they don't get to a super low bodyfat and look "ripped." One celeb I got a bit of a crush on is Olympic weightlifter Lydia Valentin. She's hot. 5'7 and competes at 165, so she's probably 170ish during the year. Beautiful girl.

(For me with men I don't want to date someone who is so scrawy and doesn't have any muscles. I love men who have biceps and tatooes. It all depends though on the type of tatoo. If its religious I'm ok with that. If it depicts any profanity or devil worship or an ex girlfriend I'm out)

Where would I take a woman on my first date? Uh. Somewhere cheap. I'm kinda broke. Maybe some cheap Asian or Indian restaurant. I like international food, and I like women who are reasonably adventurous. I wouldn't like, take her to a sushi place and order her live octopus or something, but I want someone who likes a variety of things, likes trying new things, or best case scenario can introduce me to some interesting things. I don't want a girl who will only like, eat hamburgers, pizza and fries. Barring restaurant, maybe go to the grocery store and grill burgers or chicken at a park? Hiking would be really cool, too, I love hiking, but hiking on a first date I've heard can give off a "hide yo kids, hide yo wife" kinda vibe, so even though I love hiking and stuff like that, I'd probably not suggest it until she felt comfortable around me. I also ice skate a lot, too (training for figure skating,) so I guess that's a potential date idea, but to me it's as routine as going to get my mail, but it's uh...something.

(That reminds me a long time ago before I even met my ex, Morgan. On our first date we went to a local grocery store and he got a few food items. He used to be a cook in the US Marines. We ate dinner at his apartment. We sat on the couch together with a blanket over us watching TV. He had a Chihuahua that was house trained to use a litter box which I found odd and cute. No sex involved. Alot of hugging and holding hands. I love my military men. I think back then I used the personal ads and search specfically for white military men. :wink: )

Sex on the first date. No, that's not my expectation at all. Hell, I'd be lucky if a girl kept talking to me after a first date after I annoyed her to death rambling about my special interests. Besides that, as a Christian I'm not supposed to be having premarital sex. As far as the reality of how that'll play out, I'm not really sure. Even in the "prude" 1950s, something like 97% of people admitted to having premarital sex. So my aim if I can't hit the marriage one would be to at least wait until I'm in some semblance of a committed relationship.

(I'm a Christian too so no sex before marriage for me although at times you can get tempted if the girl or guy is good looking. Do you sometimes have dreams of having sex with a certain female celeb? I don't think its wrong. It's very natural I think for people to have dreams of having sex with a celeb that we like. I think you know who I'm talking about. Yet if my date asked me for sex, I would walk away and tell him to look in the yellow pages for a call girl. At times though I want to have sex to prove to the guy that I"m not naive, stupid, or immature. So I may do things that I will regret later on to make the guy love me. Whether its dancing around semi nude, sex, or whatever. But I will never try drugs or get drunk. I can't drink alcohol anyways since I get red in the face right away. Typical Asian thing.)

I think most of what you posted is basically pretty much stereotypical "hookup" culture that is very prevalent nowadays. People don't even really court or date anymore actually. People are just like "hey you're hot, wanna have sex" and that seems to be it. And this is unfortunately the nice progressive future of America. It's leading to massive rates of illegitimate children without fathers and with unprepared/unhelped mothers. I could go on a long long rant with this, but pretty much everything you posted is a symptom of a giant societal problem.


(So true)


I'm 185lbs at 5'9 and have 14" T-Rex arms. I only started doing bicep curls like a month ago. Oddly enough big arms don't help you lift big weights or run fast much (that's your legs and back/abs,) so that's why I didn't care. I still don't want huge chesticles (pecs.) That looks odd to me. I wanna get abs, too. Not at a bodyfat I look "fat" in clothes, but still don't have teh abz. My goal physique is Lu Xiaojun. Except I'm white. White person admiring a Chinese man's physique, weird eh?

As far as the premarital sex and Christianity, I don't know, when I used to go to a church with a lot of youth (now I'm Eastern Orthodox and my church is full of old folks and they're all like "yay we're happy you're a young person") from what I understand now, many of the couples even in church were having it. But, there's ideals to reach for. I wonder myself if I'll be a "baby daddy" or a father. I know many people my age are "baby daddies" right now. I wonder what even is a "sin" in the cultural context anymore. Single parenthood and no marriage has become commonplace. It's almost the new normal. Or it will be for my generation. So I wonder if I'll succumb to the environment. Being Orthodox puts me in a worse position. Protestants think it's weird and I'm not saved, and then Catholics are like "I'm OK, You're OK" but most Catholics aren't terribly serious. So I have no idea who I'm gonna date, as the Orthodox Church in America is really small and not filled with too many young people. And among the more "ethnic" churches unfortunately the rep is not too many young people really care about their faith either. And of course, some people blame the church and it's oldness and...Orthodoxness, on it all, but I do believe it's more just the culture surrounding everything.

I wonder at times if God made me have Aspergers/NVLD as a limiter if you would. Since I've been told I'm good looking enough to get basically any girl I want. I can't really relate to a lot of the problems posted here, as I know if I wanted to, I could go to some club somewhere and just be like "yo wanna f**k" and then hook up with some random girl if I felt inclined to. But that's not really the point. I'm also just really really dense. I have no idea when girls like me or are hitting on me. I've repeated this here, but a girl asked me if there was anything fun to do around here, and I responded "I don't do anything fun." She ended up giving me her number. My friend told me later I was an idiot and she wanted a one night stand. Oops. So I guess my ASD is a pretty good built in limiter. Maybe without it I'd have AIDS and a bunch of children or something. I'm still not perfect by any stretch, especially in the realm of the mind/fantasies (though I have no idea what celeb you're referring to) but at least it doesn't seem likely I'll be a "baby daddy" anytime soon.

Oh well.


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I'm in my 30s and had some questions. For you men, do you like women who like to drink and like to see them get drunk? Do you like to see women in tight clothing? I have seen various music videos where the women are very pretty, skinny, and wear tight clothing or seductive intimates. Where would you take a woman for your first date? Is intimacy really important on the first date?


Not really. Drunk women are quite a turnoff. 1-2 drinks or something is OK for me, and I'd be OK with whatever girl I liked drinking the same amount, but if I saw her getting hammered on the first date, I'd run away.

(My ex boyfriend did often get drink with many glasses of his favorite beer, Guinness. He can probably have 10 or more. He was a silly drunk. I was ok with it though. But I was so young back then. I don't like to be around people who are intoxicated and can act violent. On our first date there was no alcohol involved. We went to a Silver Diner for dinner then went to a dance club close to the Marine Base he was stationed at)

Tight clothing. Well, that's tricky. See, most guys do like revealing clothing as long as a girl is good looking, that's kinda fact. HOWEVER, at the same point, a girl wearing revealing clothing outside of, say, the gym or something, all the time, I'd probably think lesser of her. It would be like if I was walking around all jacked and wearing a spandex muscle shirt or something to the supermarket. You'd think of me as a showoff/tease. Admittedly, women can be more revealing without trying, and the general clothing of the day is now kinda revealing by default, just because "fashion" says it's "cool" or whatever. I'd rather not have any potential date or girlfriend dressing like a Fundamentalist Mormon or a nun or something, but having her walk around in short shorts and a tank top all the time probably would make me uncomfortable.

(I agree with you. I don't like to see women in these tight shorts and tight tops no matter how thin or fat they are. It's just nasty. I see some women dressing like this at work! I don't like skirts that much. I prefer longer summer dresses)

As far as pretty and skinny, yes, I like pretty and skinny women. I can go for a woman that's a bit thicker, and I tend to shy away from ones that are really rails looking actually, as I do like curves. But there is a point where most women get pretty unattractive if they're packing extra fat weight. Of course muscle mass can change these things, it's great as it makes girls look even more curvy, as long as they don't get to a super low bodyfat and look "ripped." One celeb I got a bit of a crush on is Olympic weightlifter Lydia Valentin. She's hot. 5'7 and competes at 165, so she's probably 170ish during the year. Beautiful girl.

(For me with men I don't want to date someone who is so scrawny and doesn't have any muscles. I love men who have biceps and tatooes. It all depends though on the type of tatoo. If its religious I'm ok with that. If it depicts any profanity or devil worship or an ex girlfriend I'm out)

Where would I take a woman on my first date? Uh. Somewhere cheap. I'm kinda broke. Maybe some cheap Asian or Indian restaurant. I like international food, and I like women who are reasonably adventurous. I wouldn't like, take her to a sushi place and order her live octopus or something, but I want someone who likes a variety of things, likes trying new things, or best case scenario can introduce me to some interesting things. I don't want a girl who will only like, eat hamburgers, pizza and fries. Barring restaurant, maybe go to the grocery store and grill burgers or chicken at a park? Hiking would be really cool, too, I love hiking, but hiking on a first date I've heard can give off a "hide yo kids, hide yo wife" kinda vibe, so even though I love hiking and stuff like that, I'd probably not suggest it until she felt comfortable around me. I also ice skate a lot, too (training for figure skating,) so I guess that's a potential date idea, but to me it's as routine as going to get my mail, but it's uh...something.

(That reminds me a long time ago before I even met my ex, Morgan. On our first date we went to a local grocery store and he got a few food items. He used to be a cook in the US Marines. We ate dinner at his apartment. We sat on the couch together with a blanket over us watching TV. He had a Chihuahua that was house trained to use a litter box which I found odd and cute. No sex involved. Alot of hugging and holding hands. I love my military men. I think back then I used the personal ads and search specfically for white military men. :wink: )

Sex on the first date. No, that's not my expectation at all. Hell, I'd be lucky if a girl kept talking to me after a first date after I annoyed her to death rambling about my special interests. Besides that, as a Christian I'm not supposed to be having premarital sex. As far as the reality of how that'll play out, I'm not really sure. Even in the "prude" 1950s, something like 97% of people admitted to having premarital sex. So my aim if I can't hit the marriage one would be to at least wait until I'm in some semblance of a committed relationship.

(I'm a Christian too so no sex before marriage for me although at times you can get tempted if the girl or guy is good looking. Do you sometimes have dreams of having sex with a certain female celeb? I don't think its wrong. It's very natural I think for people to have dreams of having sex with a celeb that we like. I think you know who I'm talking about. Yet if my date asked me for sex, I would walk away and tell him to look in the yellow pages for a call girl. At times though I want to have sex to prove to the guy that I"m not naive, stupid, or immature. So I may do things that I will regret later on to make the guy love me. Whether its dancing around semi nude, sex, or whatever. But I will never try drugs or get drunk. I can't drink alcohol anyways since I get red in the face right away. Typical Asian thing.)

I think most of what you posted is basically pretty much stereotypical "hookup" culture that is very prevalent nowadays. People don't even really court or date anymore actually. People are just like "hey you're hot, wanna have sex" and that seems to be it. And this is unfortunately the nice progressive future of America. It's leading to massive rates of illegitimate children without fathers and with unprepared/unhelped mothers. I could go on a long long rant with this, but pretty much everything you posted is a symptom of a giant societal problem.


(So true)


I'm 185lbs at 5'9 and have 14" T-Rex arms. I only started doing bicep curls like a month ago. Oddly enough big arms don't help you lift big weights or run fast much (that's your legs and back/abs,) so that's why I didn't care. I still don't want huge chesticles (pecs.) That looks odd to me. I wanna get abs, too. Not at a bodyfat I look "fat" in clothes, but still don't have teh abz. My goal physique is Lu Xiaojun. Except I'm white. White person admiring a Chinese man's physique, weird eh?

As far as the premarital sex and Christianity, I don't know, when I used to go to a church with a lot of youth (now I'm Eastern Orthodox and my church is full of old folks and they're all like "yay we're happy you're a young person") from what I understand now, many of the couples even in church were having it. But, there's ideals to reach for. I wonder myself if I'll be a "baby daddy" or a father. I know many people my age are "baby daddies" right now. I wonder what even is a "sin" in the cultural context anymore. Single parenthood and no marriage has become commonplace. It's almost the new normal. Or it will be for my generation. So I wonder if I'll succumb to the environment. Being Orthodox puts me in a worse position. Protestants think it's weird and I'm not saved, and then Catholics are like "I'm OK, You're OK" but most Catholics aren't terribly serious. So I have no idea who I'm gonna date, as the Orthodox Church in America is really small and not filled with too many young people. And among the more "ethnic" churches unfortunately the rep is not too many young people really care about their faith either. And of course, some people blame the church and it's oldness and...Orthodoxness, on it all, but I do believe it's more just the culture surrounding everything.

I wonder at times if God made me have Aspergers/NVLD as a limiter if you would. Since I've been told I'm good looking enough to get basically any girl I want. I can't really relate to a lot of the problems posted here, as I know if I wanted to, I could go to some club somewhere and just be like "yo wanna f**k" and then hook up with some random girl if I felt inclined to. But that's not really the point. I'm also just really really dense. I have no idea when girls like me or are hitting on me. I've repeated this here, but a girl asked me if there was anything fun to do around here, and I responded "I don't do anything fun." She ended up giving me her number. My friend told me later I was an idiot and she wanted a one night stand. Oops. So I guess my ASD is a pretty good built in limiter. Maybe without it I'd have AIDS and a bunch of children or something. I'm still not perfect by any stretch, especially in the realm of the mind/fantasies (though I have no idea what celeb you're referring to) but at least it doesn't seem likely I'll be a "baby daddy" anytime soon.

Oh well.


Celeb I'm referring to aka Mr Worldwide aka Mr 305. :oops:


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