27 Jul 2013, 11:02 pm
Ladywoofwoof wrote:
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That's BS. There's many reasons for which one person can be nice.
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My my... perhaps you should write to Miriam & Webster and inform them that their dictionaries are full of BS ? Now, where in that description does it say anything about nice guys being weak ?
Nowhere, yes ?
If the women you have met are kind of douchey then so be it, but that's no reason to rage against women in general, or the concept of niceness.
Truth is that women in general (understood as most of it) have this idea.
And it's not rage. It's... well, disappointment.
27 Jul 2013, 11:53 pm
Greb wrote:
Ladywoofwoof wrote:
Quote:
That's BS. There's many reasons for which one person can be nice.
[...]
[...]
My my... perhaps you should write to Miriam & Webster and inform them that their dictionaries are full of BS ? Now, where in that description does it say anything about nice guys being weak ?
Nowhere, yes ?
If the women you have met are kind of douchey then so be it, but that's no reason to rage against women in general, or the concept of niceness.
Truth is that women in general (understood as most of it) have this idea.
And it's not rage. It's... well, disappointment.
Perhaps it's because I haven't kept up with the ten pages of prior posts, but what is the point of this thread? Are you looking for accolades for being a nice person? It can be laudable to strive for, but that doesn't obligate the world to do the same. There's obviously a desire for recognition, but from who? Random women?
28 Jul 2013, 12:05 am
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Perhaps it's because I haven't kept up with the ten pages of prior posts, but what is the point of this thread? Are you looking for accolades for being a nice person? It can be laudable to strive for, but that doesn't obligate the world to do the same. There's obviously a desire for recognition, but from who? Random women?
Nope.
28 Jul 2013, 12:14 am
Greb wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Perhaps it's because I haven't kept up with the ten pages of prior posts, but what is the point of this thread? Are you looking for accolades for being a nice person? It can be laudable to strive for, but that doesn't obligate the world to do the same. There's obviously a desire for recognition, but from who? Random women?
Nope.
So I reiterate, what is the goal of this discussion? I ask this as an honest question. If not recognition, then do you feel taken advantage of? That doesn't seem applicable either.
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28 Jul 2013, 12:20 am
28 Jul 2013, 12:24 am
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Greb wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Perhaps it's because I haven't kept up with the ten pages of prior posts, but what is the point of this thread? Are you looking for accolades for being a nice person? It can be laudable to strive for, but that doesn't obligate the world to do the same. There's obviously a desire for recognition, but from who? Random women?
Nope.
So I reiterate, what is the goal of this discussion? I ask this as an honest question. If not recognition, then do you feel taken advantage of? That doesn't seem applicable either.
Fair enough. But as you can understand, I'm not gonna make a resume of a 30 minutes video and a 10 pages thread. No offence.
28 Jul 2013, 12:35 am
Greb wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Greb wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Perhaps it's because I haven't kept up with the ten pages of prior posts, but what is the point of this thread? Are you looking for accolades for being a nice person? It can be laudable to strive for, but that doesn't obligate the world to do the same. There's obviously a desire for recognition, but from who? Random women?
Nope.
So I reiterate, what is the goal of this discussion? I ask this as an honest question. If not recognition, then do you feel taken advantage of? That doesn't seem applicable either.
Fair enough. But as you can understand, I'm not gonna make a resume of a 30 minutes video and a 10 pages thread. No offence.
This thread has seemed to venture into various "nice" definitions, and how people are upset that people aren't knocking down their doors to date them/find them attractive what have you. It's been a lot of meandering in other words. And of course, differing opinions on all of the above. I'm not trying to put you on the spot, I'm trying to understand your focus. I haven't seemed to come across your end goal as the OP.
I can't watch the video, but the discussion seemed to center around women preferring jerks, and nice guys getting "friendzoned". So it seems to be about female attention from your responses,ie women aren't going to be interested sexually in someone if they are pleasant and agreeable. Again, I'm just looking for an honest reply. If I am wrong, then correct me.
28 Jul 2013, 12:50 am
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Greb wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Greb wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
Perhaps it's because I haven't kept up with the ten pages of prior posts, but what is the point of this thread? Are you looking for accolades for being a nice person? It can be laudable to strive for, but that doesn't obligate the world to do the same. There's obviously a desire for recognition, but from who? Random women?
Nope.
So I reiterate, what is the goal of this discussion? I ask this as an honest question. If not recognition, then do you feel taken advantage of? That doesn't seem applicable either.
Fair enough. But as you can understand, I'm not gonna make a resume of a 30 minutes video and a 10 pages thread. No offence.
This thread has seemed to venture into various "nice" definitions, and how people are upset that people aren't knocking down their doors to date them/find them attractive what have you. It's been a lot of meandering in other words. And of course, differing opinions on all of the above. I'm not trying to put you on the spot, I'm trying to understand your focus. I haven't seemed to come across your end goal as the OP.
I can't watch the video, but the discussion seemed to center around women preferring jerks, and nice guys getting "friendzoned". So it seems to be about female attention from your responses. Again, I'm just looking for an honest reply. If I am wrong, then correct me.
A few points:
(1) There's not 'our' responses. You can ask each person about their own posts. I don't know for sure, but if I'm not wrong, they don't need to ask me permission to answer (anyway it would be a courtesy
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(2) I don't see any problem with definitions. When you're talking with somebody, as long as it's clear how words are defined inside this specific conversation, there shouldn't be any problem. So the same: ask each person about their own definition.
(3) A thread is opened with a youtube video and no text. The goal, those cases, is to comment the video. I understand that you're not willing to watch a 30 minutes video, but where's the point in looking for a further goal about a thread that is based in a video that you don't want to see?
28 Jul 2013, 1:01 am
Greb wrote:
A few points:
(1) There's not 'our' responses. You can ask each person about their own posts.
(2) I don't see any problem with definitions. When you're talking with somebody, as long as it's clear how words are defined inside this specific conversation, there shouldn't be any problem. So the same: ask each person about their own definition.
(3) A thread is opened with a youtube video and no text. The goal, those cases, is to comment the video. I understand that you're not willing to watch a 30 minutes video, but where's the point in looking for a further goal about a thread that is based in a video that you don't want to see.
1. Replace with "the posters" including myself, mind you.
2. I love definitions. But I do see black and white definitions being refuted.
3. If the goal is general commentary, then that is what I was asking about. Being unable to watch videos on my tablet, I based my question on the references to the material and the additional discussion points made by the OP.
4. I still asked a valid question that continues to get sidestepped, so I take my leave(almost)
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28 Jul 2013, 1:05 am
28 Jul 2013, 1:09 am
28 Jul 2013, 1:20 am
Greb wrote:
The goal of this thread is just to talk about this video.
Pretty much what was done 'til people couldn't handle it and threw some insults around
Was a nice five minutes though.
28 Jul 2013, 1:30 am
Greb wrote:
Ladywoofwoof wrote:
Quote:
That's BS. There's many reasons for which one person can be nice.
[...]
[...]
My my... perhaps you should write to Miriam & Webster and inform them that their dictionaries are full of BS ? Now, where in that description does it say anything about nice guys being weak ?
Nowhere, yes ?
If the women you have met are kind of douchey then so be it, but that's no reason to rage against women in general, or the concept of niceness.
Truth is that women in general (understood as most of it) have this idea.
And it's not rage. It's... well, disappointment.
As clarification(and Aspie singlemindedness), this part of the discussion was why I directed my questions to you. You state your disappointment that women(in general) equate nice guys with weakness. My question(and I apologize for not being clear) is why is it important for those women to value "nicety". What about that lack brings disappointment other than being held in some sort of esteem otherwise?
28 Jul 2013, 1:35 am
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
As clarification(and Aspie singlemindedness), this part of the discussion was why I directed my questions to you. You state your disappointment that women(in general) equate nice guys with weakness. My question(and I apologize for not being clear) is why is it important for those women to value "nicety". What about that lack brings disappointment other than being held in some sort of esteem otherwise?
Please, don't put words in my mouth. I haven't said that they have to value 'nicety', so don't ask why 'is important me' something that actually I didn't said.
28 Jul 2013, 2:23 am
Greb wrote:
MjrMajorMajor wrote:
As clarification(and Aspie singlemindedness), this part of the discussion was why I directed my questions to you. You state your disappointment that women(in general) equate nice guys with weakness. My question(and I apologize for not being clear) is why is it important for those women to value "nicety". What about that lack brings disappointment other than being held in some sort of esteem otherwise?
Please, don't put words in my mouth. I haven't said that they have to value 'nicety', so don't ask why 'is important me' something that actually I didn't said.
I see I have entered PPR unknowingly. All I asked was why the disappointment. It was important enough to mention. Valid discussion=0. Nitpicking and uncalled for contempt=1+.
28 Jul 2013, 2:37 am
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