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14 Jul 2014, 10:40 am

The figure is way too high. I simply cannot believe that 96 in every 100 autistics has been sexually assaulted. There are roughly 80,000 members on this forum. For the sake of argument, let's say 75% of that 80,000 are autistic, so 60,000 autistic members. That would mean around 57,600 people on this forum alone have been sexually assaulted. That's only slightly lower than the population of my home town. That would be an astronomical figure if it were true. I could believe that 96% of autistics suffer from severe anxiety and/or depression, something like that, but not that 96 in every 100 autistics have been sexually assaulted. Plus, with all the people who didn't report the sexual assault, which, I imagine, would be a fairly large amount, the figure would be closer to something like 99%. That's just way too high


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14 Jul 2014, 10:43 am

Are you sure the figure doesn't refer to physical assault, Vicky? That seems a lot more plausible to me


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14 Jul 2014, 11:02 am

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The figure is way too high. I simply cannot believe that 96 in every 100 autistics has been sexually assaulted. There are roughly 80,000 members on this forum. For the sake of argument, let's say 75% of that 80,000 are autistic, so 60,000 autistic members. That would mean around 57,600 people on this forum alone have been sexually assaulted. That's only slightly lower than the population of my home town. That would be an astronomical figure if it were true. I could believe that 96% of autistics suffer from severe anxiety and/or depression, something like that, but not that 96 in every 100 autistics have been sexually assaulted. Plus, with all the people who didn't report the sexual assault, which, I imagine, would be a fairly large amount, the figure would be closer to something like 99%. That's just way too high


In the hopes of derailing this thread which doesn't look like it can go anywhere good (which is why I haven't participated) I went searching for what "96%" and "autistic" might have to do with each other. That search didn't find me the figure (which sounds more plausible if it was "96% of all autistic people were bullied in school") but it did find me this interesting blog.

http://speakingon.wordpress.com/2013/01 ... ult-rifle/

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There?s one small problem: There?s no link between autism and violence. In fact, although spree killers usually but not always have certain specific psychiatric disabilities (usually those involving psychosis or explosive rage?which represent a small minority of the total psychiatrically-labeled population), violent crime in general is overwhelmingly committed by neurotypicals. 96% of the time, in fact. Yes. 4% of violent crime is committed by people who have some kind of mental illness, disorder, or disability, and the other 96% is committed by people who are completely neurotypical.


That has nothing to do with this thread but it is an interesting blog and maybe people need a little break from the black hole of gender wars.



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14 Jul 2014, 11:11 am

Those are some interesting figures, Janissy. It's all too common to point fingers at those who are different and to lay the blame almost exclusively on them. In a day and age where we're striving for equality, people's differences are being more and more highlighted. The way I see it, autistic people are usually portrayed in one of two ways in journalism - either as helpless, defenceless victims who are to be pitied or as murderous psychopaths. There are rarely if any positive portrayals of autism and other neurological conditions in the media these days. I want to join up with fellow people with neurological conditions and try to do something about it, but... who's gonna take us seriously?


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14 Jul 2014, 11:16 am

I do have the sense that most of the societal pressure (and possibly even most of the internal pressure) to "get" someone and be in a relationship happens in our late teens and early to mid or late 20s.

I know once I passed about 28 the pressure from my family (and friends) eased off quite a bit. I still didn't get married the first time until I was 31, because *I* knew I wasn't ready before then. (Turns out I still wasn't, but that's another, longer story. :P )

It doesn't all magically disappear at age 30, however. I still have most of my friends and family (except those who actually understand me), since the death of my fiance, urging me to "get back out there." I find it a little offensive, as if I were somehow not complete without having a readily available penis at my disposal.

Granted, I live on acreage, and at my age it's difficult (currently nearing impossible) to take care of by myself. It would be nice to have someone to help me with that. Is that a good enough reason for to seek a relationship? No, it is not.

Granted, I'm pretty stinkin' lonely since my fiance was killed, and I really miss sex. It would be really nice to have some companionship. Are those good enough reasons for me to seek a relationship? Not at the moment, but someday it may be enough of a reason. It remains to be see, in the event that day comes, whether the companionship I seek will be in the form of an asexual friendship (male or female), or in the form of a romantic relationship with a man.



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14 Jul 2014, 11:27 am

^ What happened to him?


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14 Jul 2014, 11:29 am

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^ What happened to him?


Killed by a drunk driver. :(



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14 Jul 2014, 11:38 am

That's a damned awful thing to happen. I'm really sorry. :(


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14 Jul 2014, 11:45 am

Thanks, Smudge.

It is awful. It's about 50 gazillion times worse than anything I could possibly have imagined. It's been almost a year now since it happened, and it's not *quite* as bad as it was the first 8-9 months or so. Still, losing him in such a fashion is like a black hole has been blasted through the core of my being that absolutely cannot be filled.

To swing this back on topic, I feel that if it is not possible to fill the black hole all the way up, why bother to try?



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14 Jul 2014, 11:49 am

I'm so sorry. I know you live somewhere in Colorado. We are about 25 miles west of Denver. The community I live in is almost magically soothing and relaxing. If you want to ever come up for a day or two you are more than welcome. If by chance you "self-medicate'with ice cream and homemade hot fudge sauce, it's an even better place. :wink:



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14 Jul 2014, 11:58 am

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Thanks, Smudge.

It is awful. It's about 50 gazillion times worse than anything I could possibly have imagined. It's been almost a year now since it happened, and it's not *quite* as bad as it was the first 8-9 months or so. Still, losing him in such a fashion is like a black hole has been blasted through the core of my being that absolutely cannot be filled.

To swing this back on topic, I feel that if it is not possible to fill the black hole all the way up, why bother to try?


So it's been less than a year, and they're urging you already to get back out there? They are mad.

Vicky, though we disagree on some things, you are very kind and supportive, and I like that about you.


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14 Jul 2014, 12:10 pm

Janissy wrote:
Laddo wrote:
The figure is way too high. I simply cannot believe that 96 in every 100 autistics has been sexually assaulted. There are roughly 80,000 members on this forum. For the sake of argument, let's say 75% of that 80,000 are autistic, so 60,000 autistic members. That would mean around 57,600 people on this forum alone have been sexually assaulted. That's only slightly lower than the population of my home town. That would be an astronomical figure if it were true. I could believe that 96% of autistics suffer from severe anxiety and/or depression, something like that, but not that 96 in every 100 autistics have been sexually assaulted. Plus, with all the people who didn't report the sexual assault, which, I imagine, would be a fairly large amount, the figure would be closer to something like 99%. That's just way too high


In the hopes of derailing this thread which doesn't look like it can go anywhere good (which is why I haven't participated) I went searching for what "96%" and "autistic" might have to do with each other. That search didn't find me the figure (which sounds more plausible if it was "96% of all autistic people were bullied in school") but it did find me this interesting blog.

http://speakingon.wordpress.com/2013/01 ... ult-rifle/

Google found it for me because of this:

Quote:
There?s one small problem: There?s no link between autism and violence. In fact, although spree killers usually but not always have certain specific psychiatric disabilities (usually those involving psychosis or explosive rage?which represent a small minority of the total psychiatrically-labeled population), violent crime in general is overwhelmingly committed by neurotypicals. 96% of the time, in fact. Yes. 4% of violent crime is committed by people who have some kind of mental illness, disorder, or disability, and the other 96% is committed by people who are completely neurotypical.


That has nothing to do with this thread but it is an interesting blog and maybe people need a little break from the black hole of gender wars.


http://victimsofpsychopaths.wordpress.com/statistics/

Here's something else that says around 50% of all serious crimes are committed by psychopaths, and around 50% of serial-rapists are as well.

I don't think these stats include sociopaths too according to the article, but if they did it would probably make those percents much higher.(undiagnosed sociopaths/psychopaths are usually passed-off as being NT btw)



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14 Jul 2014, 12:38 pm

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Well, it's for the same reason why some males are getting away with sexist threads/posts too. It's only fair tbh.

I am starting to agree with Alex on this matter, it can be amusing.


I don't agree any sexism should be allowed. I single out tarantella because she's the most obvious offender, besides perhaps billiscool.

Tarantella once implied I was a rapist because I tend not to explicitly ask before going in for a kiss. Sure, Alex, that's some real amusing s**t right there.


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14 Jul 2014, 12:38 pm

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Here is the question that I have. Why do so many men externalize their anger, directing it toward women instead of blaming themselves? It seems to me that women are less likely to do that. Instead, they blame themselves, or they just say that it is unfair but don't take that extra step of blaming men for their aloneness. (I am not talking about all women. This is anecdotal, just the women I have seen here on this site), but I would be interested to know if it was a real phenomenon. Perhaps understanding it more would help prevent further killings of random women by angry men.

It's because men are conditioned to appear "strong". Also, the conclusion that you are fundamentally defective in some way and therefore being left alone to rot, like a leper, is painful to face. I also don't think women understand that most men don't have close male friends the way women have close female friends. Men have "drinking buddies" who go out and have fun. Men don't have emotional support. I don't know what's wrong with most normal guys, but they tend to be afraid of ever talking about anything remotely emotional. There seems to be a lack of empathy in the OP with regards to this. Not all women, but those intensely into feminism come off as lacking empathy towards men. As an asexual ( but not aromantic ) guy, I hate getting lumped in with horny gorillas who act obnoxious and make cat calls on the street. Those guys are not lonely. They're likely robotic sociopaths who don't care about anything but satisfying urges. They don't get hurt by rejection. They don't care. They just like being douchebags. Also, men who've been hurt by repeated rejection aren't complaining about being rejected immediately. It's more a problem of rejection after several dates or even a short term relationship. I don't see anyone on this site complaining about not being able to "pick up women" randomly on the street. To even imply that is obnoxious.



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14 Jul 2014, 12:55 pm

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Thanks, Smudge.

It is awful. It's about 50 gazillion times worse than anything I could possibly have imagined. It's been almost a year now since it happened, and it's not *quite* as bad as it was the first 8-9 months or so. Still, losing him in such a fashion is like a black hole has been blasted through the core of my being that absolutely cannot be filled.

To swing this back on topic, I feel that if it is not possible to fill the black hole all the way up, why bother to try?


So it's been less than a year, and they're urging you already to get back out there? They are mad.

Vicky, though we disagree on some things, you are very kind and supportive, and I like that about you.


Agreed on both counts!



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14 Jul 2014, 12:58 pm

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Tarantella once implied I was a rapist because I tend not to explicitly ask before going in for a kiss. Sure, Alex, that's some real amusing sh** right there.


Oh my... That's not cool. People shouldn't make implications like that without realising the potential consequences. So spontaneous passion is now another reason why men are all piles of s**t, is it? Right. Tarantella just hates men. It's not even thinly disguised.


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