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I don't understand fashion, either. If it fits then that's good enough, I say.

I've wondered, though.. What do people think of girls dressing in a more androgynous way? Not tomboyish, but like.. Suspenders, men's coats or dress shirts, etc? I wear those type of things a lot (usually not all together, but yeah). Really girly stuff just does not work on me-- although, I do often wear victorian looking stuff (with a long skirt, boots and suspenders for instance). I like combining opposite styles and themes. Likewise, I prefer to dress in a way that's both feminine and masculine.

you know shale you really should write a book for teen girls because you took an unpopular braniac with questioable fashon sense feel so good about herself, thank you so much!
<3 Kayti

Kayti - always comes down to the question, do you feel good and do you feel what you're wearing makes you look good? 'Questionable' is what makes things interesting. Heck, look at a lot of the people out there that really catch your eye for being unusual. If you look closely a lot of the items they are wearing are not currently in fashion, are not of 'high fashion', or are even hand-made by the wearer themselves. Put it all together though, and do it like you MEAN IT, and you get something unusual, outrageous and often very attractive and alluring

Oh and don't beat yourself up over being unpopular, a brainiac or having questionable fashion sense. It all fades with the future, particularly as you discover who you really are (doesn't happen til after you're 18, anyone who claims otherwise just so happens to be in denial ) - and people start to APPRECIATE those features as your best, rather than as shortcomings

Shale you are officially my hero. Though I've learned the rules of hygiene and matching, etc. (though I will always be very eccentric in my dress) your post was a godsend for my brother and my husband, who are both farther down the spectrum. : )

OP - I think I fit into the spectrum because I often used to make posts into long narratives. I had to skip yours after the 3rd paragraph
I normally have more patience, but today I'm in a hurry and need to be out soon.


Language of Fashion: This was brilliant. There is a language and a codebook that we can use to decipher a person. I know kids hate being deciphered based on their trappings, but come on... be honest and admit that you choose your attire to express who you are. There's no guarantee that everyone will be accepting of who you choose to portray.

Why people, mostly NTs you say, judge based on what we where? You already answered that with your second idea: LOF
Despite being set in a civilized (debatable) technological society, we are still programmed for the primitive and tribal. The primitive side most notices sexuality and or alpha qualities. The tribal senses group people and decide where they fit in. In the ancient world it would have been
Goths, Sioux, Zulu, Picts, or whatever. We pick different tribes now.

I think the tribal and birds of a feather view is often lost on the dateless crowd. People don't believe it, but it's valid I believe. If you're a male that likes Emo girls, and wants to date emo girls, you had better learn to dress and look emo. Same with Hippies, Urban hip-hopsters, goths, Moderate young professionals, Sports types, etc.... High School never ends, it's only an exaggerated trial by fire. Life after high school may be more subtle, but the elements are still there.

The question now is, how do you reconcile having to be a working professional and achieving a look?

Women have many more choices and will attract all types of males. Females also have more fashion choices. How do males work with less on their pallet?

There is a TV show called "Fashion Police", where you may be able to pick up some pointers on how to dress, particularly if you are attending the Grammy Awards or some such gala.

http://www.eonline.com/fashion/fashionpolice/

I watch Style network's How Do I Look?
Where was this poster when I was younger (and had a shape other than sphereical?)

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Rumpled Senate Democrats Share Their Fashion Secrets

Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) is more than willing to dispense fashion tips to those who comprehend Schumerese. (By Mark Wilson -- Getty Images)

Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) is a man who stands accused of many things -- loving television cameras, the New York Giants and the sound of his own voice, for example -- but never in his storied career has he been called a fashion plate.

And no one in his or her right mind would suspect Schumer of having a European tailor. Which is why his (loud) conversation aboard a recent northbound train came as such a shock to two informants, who also happened to be sitting in the same first-class car.

Schumer, along with the equally unfashionable Sens. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) and Bob Casey (D-Pa.), were headed to Philadelphia on Friday to attend a fundraiser for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which Schumer chairs. A young woman who works at the DSCC rode with them. The senators, uncharacteristically, happened to notice her stylish clothes and were overheard complimenting her necklace.

Leahy, whose idea of haute couture is a pair of Birkenstocks and a flannel shirt, mistook the aide's green necklace for authentic jade. She confessed that it wasn't and that she had bought it at Target. Which prompted Schumer -- speaking at his usual 60 to 80 decibels above normal -- to tell his aide and colleagues about his French tailor.

"His name is Jay-Say Pennay!" shouted Schumer, using a variation on "Jacques Pennay," the more common faux-Francophilic pronunciation of J.C. Penney.

Schumer does have a thing for fashion, apparently. He offered legislation last summer with Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) to fight piracy and protect New York's fashion designers from (mostly Chinese) rip-offs.

Asked about his French tailor, Schumer confirmed and quipped, "And I do all my shopping at Tarjay." (That's Target for those who don't parle Schumerese.)

Maybe this has been mentioned before on this forum, but what's the deal with the long coats? (could be trenchcoat, robe coat, not always black) The kids I hung around with in college 2 years ago all wore them (sci-fi club) and I would certainly not consider many of them "goths" but instead as aspie kids (anime club, comic book dorks). I bought one and wore it during the winter (to fit in with said kids even though I didn't particularly understand the trend).

I understand the importance of attire to NT's but I still don't feel like I should try to fake it. It just doesn't make sense to me. I wear t-shirts and jeans, and I don't even own anything fancy that fits anymore (except sweatpants, but those are only for home ). When it comes to the opposite sex, however, the attire that I am most attracted to is a t-shirt and jeans. I don't like when women show cleavage. I don't like jewelry. I think that the way that I dress is just functional and authentic, and my ideal woman would dress the same way. If she's attractive, she doesn't need to wear goofy expensive clothes to look good, and I think that rule should apply to me as well. I don't ascribe any of my failures to the way that I dress, but to my other communication problems.

I'm learning the clothes language. However, I wish I had more information on all of this body language stuff. As a NT where could you point me for the information? Thanks.

I have recently picked up a minimal clothes-sense - I'm scared of people who look like they've put a lot of effort into their outfit. The older, messier and weirder a person's clothes are, the more comfortable I am around them. So for all those who who worry about knowing how to dress up, I think you shouldn't - it's easier for me to recognise you as a non-scary person if you're not trying to dress like a scary person!

But all that goes out the window when I see things in rainbow order. Everyone should wear rainbow colours *obsess*

I like to use baggy pants (not the kind that could fall down) with as much pocket space as possible. But I never carry a mobile phone in my pockets. I have a case attached to my belt for that.

For my upper body, I prefer long sleeves and long necks. With a zipper on the neck. I like zippers. Preferably something that looks like it could keep the world away from me.
But I sometimes use a short-sleeved shirt, if I can wear something long-sleeved under it.

Durable, high-quality workboots with shafts.

Anything that can keep the scary world away.