Oh girls have it so much worse....

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When I use the I'm usually not serious. I don't think we should discriminate against sexuals. It was just a fun joke.

Touching is more invasive than flirting. To touch someone without their consent is a assault to their personal space.

I always ask before I kiss a woman's hand.

Well you have to breath to live, so how would it even be possible to force people to have to ask before they take every breath? Aside from that if two people are having sex and someone really wants to watch then damn right they need permission to do so, if someone wants to touch someone in a sexual manner, yes good to ask(now to specifcy I don't mean with a couple every time the boyfriend wants to caress the girls face, or the girl wants to cuddle up to him when they are sitting together they have to ask, but you don't touch a stranger or acquaintance sexually without consent) I see nothing wrong with consent to be touched or f***d.

As for Nudity I don't agree with how sexualized it is...I don't think its inappropriate/sexual to be naked I sure as hell don't agree with the law in my city where peeing/pooping outside can get you charged as a sex offender especially when we don't have adequate public restrooms and a high homeless population. Of course in society nudity is seen like that but I disagree with that...I however do think all the other things aside from breathing make sense to require consent.

Also for most animals sex is simply a mechanical means of creating offspring...for a lot of animals its not pleasurable and even painful. As for humans though we are one of the animals who gain pleasure/chemical bonding via sex....same with dolphins I think it is who also derive pleasure from sex. You may also see sex as nothing more than mechanics to create offspring but a vast majority of humans see it as more than that. And what I mean by sex being private buisiness is its up to the people involved what they do with it....if they want to film it and make it availible for people to see(so long as they aren't showing it to minors) so be it, or if they want to invite people in to watch have at it but its their choice if they want to have sex in private with no one watching and no one filming it to put out that is their right to.

Aside from that flirting, catcalling(whilst can certainly be annoying), and walking up to talk to someone cannot require consent because those all require interacting initially. Like to even gain consent to do something with someone you have to walk up to or approach them so how would you get consent to walk up to someone or flirt with them or more if there is a law against approaching anyone without consent. But as far as doing things of a sexual nature to another person, yes it makes sense both parties should consent to being ok with that interaction. I just don't think the consent laws are quite so opressive as you think not to mention not sure all of those points you bring up specifically have to do with consent laws specifically anyways. Like the nudity thing I thought was more to do with the movie rating system and sexualization of nudity thus deeming it inappropriate to be nude in public or on t.v/movies without an R rating than consent laws specifically.

I'd guess that depends on where they're having sex. If they're on someone else's property and don't want the owner to meddle, they'd better leave.

I've known for a long time to get away from couples making out, even if I didn't know the exact reason. One day, however, when I was waiting for a bus, a young couple came and started doing it right in front of me. I surely felt a strong pressure to go away, as what I was witnessing was none of my business, and even feared they'd physically attack me if I didn't take the hint, but I thought expecting me to miss the bus was a bit too much.

That's what I was saying - I get confused when Aspies use sarcasm. If I decide to be sarcastic, I usually say that I am because some Aspies don't pick up on it. I'm expecting Aspies to be truthful about everything they say.

Sorry but you've got to have a screw loose or something to think someone cannot be taken advantage of for sex. It is a different thing than rape since as you say its not 'forced' however its not unheard of for guys to lead girls on to sleep with them and then drop them like a potato infected with the plague when they've had their fill. But if you haven't experienced it I wouldn't expect you to understand.

I also never said anyone 'owes' me a relationship...but I think they at least owe me the respect to be honest about whether or not they want one. If a guy starts a relationship with me and passes it off like they care for me as a person, but really they just want someone to sleep around with till they find something serious or just someone to sleep around with they at least owe me the truth. I mean there are times I desire sex and would be willing to hook up for it with no intentions of a serious relationship with a guy willing difference is I would know what it going on, rather than being led on. But that said regardless of if anyone owes me a relationship or not, women are still statistically more likely to run into abuse, rape, being taken advantage of sexually(exploitation).

And know if that is what's hitting on me, that means such people hit on me....not that we're in the same 'league', guys will hit on all kinds of girls whether in their league or not, and my opinion a daily bar hopper twice my age with enough alcohol on their breath to kill a small rodent most of the time who has a nasty disrespectful way of flirting is not my 'league' or what I ought to be pursuing. But this just further shows your entire lack of understanding of this experience...maybe in your view you'd be grateful for any attention from any women because at least a woman talked to you.

Well I guess I have other things in life that are more practical/important than having a guy, any guy even a potential rapist/abuser talk to me being the sole focus of my days...if you interacted with an abusive woman you might later come to find you'd rather have not had that interaction, or if you got with a women and later find out they where just using you wilst making you the butt of their jokes to their friends you might begin to understand why some people feel not having an interaction would have been better than having the initial interaction.

Also I know lots of guys, no one who really weight lifts or wears clothes to show off muscles and what not...and these are guys who do date and have girlfriends. But I understand guys have their own social pressures to look a certain way as well that may be a little different than social pressure girls have.

And no one 'here' said the last bit was rude, but yes I've seen it referred to as rude when women have negative responses to a random street stranger calling them a sexy baby or something...not on W.P, just in general.

Apparently counter arguments don't work on everyone.

This is why the "no sex for 6 months rule". If a guy can't stick around and actually "date" a woman and really get to know her - he isn't worth her time. You will know then what his real intentions were. And some men may say that 6 months is too long, but it isn't if both people have a life and only see each other a couple times a week.

You need to stop taking everything literally you read about autism. Not everything you read about it is all true and everyone with it is all different and they are not going to have the same symptoms and aspies are just as capable as normal people about lying an sarcasm and deceiving people, etc. Not all aspies do it just like not all NTs deceive people.

Well yeah, kinda risky to try and have sex on someone elses property, then have the audacity to expect no one to bother you...I mean come on.

Also though I imagine this young couple was more focused on eating each others faces than physically assaulting you for being within vision range...and thing is they didn't go somewhere private and get walked up on they came to an already populated area and started making out, which means if they don't want anyone to see they should leave....it would be ridiculous for them to expect the people already at the bus stop to leave and give them privacy.

Sometimes I get uncomfortable when people start making out around me....then its like 'hmm well if they were going to be bothered by me seeing this they probably wouldn't do it here'. Like my brother and his girlfriend might start making out then I glance over and feel akward but they don't seem to care. Or one time I was meeting up with a friend who agreed to go to a concert with me and so I went into his room sort of walked in on some things...they weren't mad because they knew I was coming and never indicated they might be having intimate activity going on till I got there but he just told me to wait outside the room till it was done.

Anyways I've seen plenty of my brother and GF kissing, and plenty of my afore mentioned friend and ex boyfriend kissing(now I think he's found a new boyfriend) and as far as I can tell if people don't want to be seen they will go into a room or if outside maybe break away from the group to go somewhere alone together...otherwise they don't care or want to beat you up if you see it.

Just as capable or just as willing though? I feel like a lot of people on the spectrum might have trouble doing those things as effectively, though I could be wrong...and I think taking things literally is a trait of aspergers, though it is something to be aware of as then you can try and be aware of when you are doing that and then if its actually appropriate or not. For instance taking an article in The Onion literally vs understanding it is satire that throws in a little reality here and there. Whearas if you are reading some peer reviewed scientific article vs. something from idk The New York Times, take the scientific article quite literally but not the latter...a News article is to grab peoples attention much of the time they are not entirely accurate a peer reviewed paper is for education it just inlcudes conclusions, how studies where done and what facts have been concluded based on that no fancy attention grabbing titles or biased/misleading opinionated stuff passed off as fact.

There has to be some baseline to go by, otherwise why learn about Asperger's at all?

Nurseangela is NT but I sometimes wonder if she is actually NT (no offense to her). But lot of people take mental illnesses and conditions literal. Remember Rain Man? Lot of people saw the movie and were all of a sudden "experts" on it. They will also make ignorant comments like "But you are not like my nephew who has autism" because they think all autistic people are the same as their nephew.

I have seen enough aspies do sarcasm lie, be dishonest, bully, etc. so I am done assuming that no aspie would do things I have seen NTs do.

I get that everybody is different and no two Aspies are alike. However, when you educate yourself on a new diagnosis (Asperger's in this example) you have to have some traits that are "known" for that particular diagnosis. Just like diabetes, for example. There are certain symptoms one looks for, but not everyone will have all of those symptoms which this applies to Aspies. What I would say though, is if Aspies want NT's to learn about Asperger's and if you (Aspie) know that you are talking to an NT, then try not to say things that Aspie's are "known" not to say. It's kind of like using slang with someone who is just learning English - they won't understand it because they are getting the baselines down for the English language. Aspie books may be the problem here too because they outline certain traits to look for in a person with Asperger's.

don't think thats your call to make and its really generalzing. i don't think anyone who isn't willing to wait 10 years for sex is worth a womans time. see its a arbitary number, so it could be replaced with anything. lots of people hace sex right at the start and have long fulfilling relationships.

any woman who wont' have sex after a month of being together isn't worth my time, shes just playing games or not sexually compatible. fyi anyone who is won't be able to wait 6 months either. most women on okcup list that they would have sex around 3-5 dates, very few say 6 months or longer unless they christians saying until marriage. then other say 1-2 dates.

honestly such a woman as you describe is judgemental and not worth a mans time.

his real attentions is not to get played with by a woman, he wants a long term romantic and yes sexual relationship perhaps leading to marriage. just because a guy doesn't want to wait freaking half a year to have sex doesn't mean hes only after sex.

only see each other a couple times a week you mean like 90% of people do?
does it take you years to bond and attach to someone, it usually just takes a few weeks for most people even shorter for people like me.