“I’m looking for men who aren’t trash” what’s that mean?

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19 Dec 2018, 7:42 pm

More women get into stupid stuff than what used to be the case.

But they still get into it at a lower percentage than men.



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19 Dec 2018, 8:05 pm

You seem to have an idea that women are pperfect super humans or something



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19 Dec 2018, 8:43 pm

No, Sly. I don't feel that way.



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19 Dec 2018, 8:59 pm

Social media and online dating has made life easier for modern women and harder for modern men. Women get heaps of responses on dating sites and validation and approval on social media. The majority of guys get little or no response on social media and no responses on online dating sites because they are not Alpha males. Only the top 20% of guys get plenty of messages on dating sites, validation and approval on social media because they are Alpha males!

I do not have social media or online dating accounts. I do not want to waste time on anything that adds no value to my life because I am a bottom 80% low value guy, not a top 20% high value guy.



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19 Dec 2018, 9:05 pm

I have a solution. Stop using dating sites and go and meet people in person... like people did for thousands upon thousands of years of human history.



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19 Dec 2018, 9:19 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Goddamit!

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm just a clerk.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm 5 foot 5.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I didn't get my drivers license until I was 37.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm autistic.

AND YOU'RE NOT A "LESSER" MAN, EITHER....unless you're a criminal or something....

Enough of this alpha/beta/gamma crap!! ! !


This cannot be stated enough.

You guys, don't buy into the internet pedalled philosophy that you are fundamentally flawed.

It's just darkness feeding despair.



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19 Dec 2018, 9:30 pm

By most measures, I'm certainly not in the "top 20%."

Probably not even in the "top 50%."

Possibly in the "bottom 20%."

But I've managed okay.

If I were to listen to today's theorists as far as "dating," is concerned, I'd still be a virgin today.



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19 Dec 2018, 10:56 pm

hurtloam wrote:
I have a solution. Stop using dating sites and go and meet people in person... like people did for thousands upon thousands of years of human history.


I don't consider anyone's online dating experience to be anything serious. That's just the process of people being data mined for someone else's profit.

I'll have much better conversations & more to do with those people when they get social networking out of their systems.


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19 Dec 2018, 11:03 pm

hurtloam wrote:
I have a solution. Stop using dating sites and go and meet people in person... like people did for thousands upon thousands of years of human history.

That doesn’t work anymore in the USA especially for aspie

Do you like being approached by men you find unattractive? Neither do most women.

What women experience online carries over to offline especially when offline gender ratio is same as online ratio.
Why would a woman date me when they have so many other men to choose from?
I’m fat a ugly and work min wage, I don’t own a car, I don’t own a house.
I offer them nothing and they have 3,000 extra men to choose from.
What do I offer that those other men don’t?
Most of those men are better looking then me too and work full time jobs



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19 Dec 2018, 11:04 pm

cberg wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I have a solution. Stop using dating sites and go and meet people in person... like people did for thousands upon thousands of years of human history.


I don't consider anyone's online dating experience to be anything serious. That's just the process of people being data mined for someone else's profit.

I'll have much better conversations & more to do with those people when they get social networking out of their systems.


Not even the ones who met online dated for while and are now married?



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19 Dec 2018, 11:07 pm

I work full time, own a car, work out as much as possible & I'm right there with you.

These things are purely superficial.


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19 Dec 2018, 11:17 pm

There was an assumption further back in this thread that no one would work if they didn't need to.

I don't agree with that. Humans need purpose. I've been pondering what I would do if I ended up well off enough not to need to work.

I'd use that freedom to experiment and see what I'm good at. I'd sell that skill. I would still work, just not for a corporation. I'd set up my own business.



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19 Dec 2018, 11:21 pm

sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I have a solution. Stop using dating sites and go and meet people in person... like people did for thousands upon thousands of years of human history.

That doesn’t work anymore in the USA especially for aspie

Do you like being approached by men you find unattractive? Neither do most women.

What women experience online carries over to offline especially when offline gender ratio is same as online ratio.
Why would a woman date me when they have so many other men to choose from?
I’m fat a ugly and work min wage, I don’t own a car, I don’t own a house.
I offer them nothing and they have 3,000 extra men to choose from.
What do I offer that those other men don’t?
Most of those men are better looking then me too and work full time jobs


I'm not talking about approaching randoms. I'm talking about getting to know people within one's community. Building connections, not American style dating.

Of course, that would involve broadening one's horizons.



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20 Dec 2018, 1:05 am

hurtloam wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Goddamit!

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm just a clerk.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm 5 foot 5.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I didn't get my drivers license until I was 37.

I'm not a "lesser" man because I'm autistic.

AND YOU'RE NOT A "LESSER" MAN, EITHER....unless you're a criminal or something....

Enough of this alpha/beta/gamma crap!! ! !


This cannot be stated enough.

You guys, don't buy into the internet pedalled philosophy that you are fundamentally flawed.

It's just darkness feeding despair.



Your post and kk’s post don’t help either since we all know that most people would just associate a such listing of traits to the term of loser.
Who are you kidding really? Do you guys live in a vaccum and never hear what others commonly say?
We want sly to improve, to get a better job, to drive, to lose weight, to acquire a better body... so women around him stop thinking of him as a loser, telling him that everything will be ok by staying as he is won’t help and it’s denial of realities.



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20 Dec 2018, 1:47 am

hurtloam wrote:
There was an assumption further back in this thread that no one would work if they didn't need to.

I don't agree with that. Humans need purpose. I've been pondering what I would do if I ended up well off enough not to need to work.

I'd use that freedom to experiment and see what I'm good at. I'd sell that skill. I would still work, just not for a corporation. I'd set up my own business.


They’d do things they enjoy. Working is just doing things for money. So not working doesn’t mean they do nothing.
If I won lottery I’d be helping others, taking gun training, learning about older guns, visiting historic sites, hiking and camping.
Might open a shaving store just for fun to help bring shaving to others.
Inventors thought if stuff cause they weren’t having to work all the time.



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20 Dec 2018, 1:50 am

hurtloam wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
I have a solution. Stop using dating sites and go and meet people in person... like people did for thousands upon thousands of years of human history.

That doesn’t work anymore in the USA especially for aspie

Do you like being approached by men you find unattractive? Neither do most women.

What women experience online carries over to offline especially when offline gender ratio is same as online ratio.
Why would a woman date me when they have so many other men to choose from?
I’m fat a ugly and work min wage, I don’t own a car, I don’t own a house.
I offer them nothing and they have 3,000 extra men to choose from.
What do I offer that those other men don’t?
Most of those men are better looking then me too and work full time jobs


I'm not talking about approaching randoms. I'm talking about getting to know people within one's community. Building connections, not American style dating.

Of course, that would involve broadening one's horizons.


And I’m telling you most women have in interest in getting to know unattractive men.
They won’t even talk to me and get mad if I glance their way.
They talk to and flirt with the attractive men. Only time they talk to me is if they need me to do something
So if women don’t want men they find unattractive approaching them at all you can never get to know them
Women here in wp have stated they don’t want men approaching them at all unless they find them attractive something men can never know before hand unless they assume to always be unattractive or they are super attractive and know it.

So I’d have to approach random women, as I don’t know any women.
But say a guy you know and find unattractive
Tried to ask you out I bet you’d be irritated.