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01 Feb 2009, 5:43 pm

mitharatowen wrote:

^ Edit to above

SOME men

Well I wouldnt say that MOST men are obsessed with big boobs as much as women might think. I pay very little attention to cleavage unless its a woman with really big boops wearing a low-cut top.

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01 Feb 2009, 6:07 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

(It's a myth that men find bigger breasts more attractive, BTW.)

it's that same myth about larger peni, too!

if we weren't told what the ideal was, then how would companies make so many "health" and beauty items $$ to prey on our insecurities??

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01 Feb 2009, 6:15 pm

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gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

You're right...I don't get why people have a big thing about things that aren't "natural" being bad. We're an advanced civilisation, amirite?! We can improve things for the better, in all areas of life.

Because some people (like me) would rather have a pair of natural A-cups over the same pair artificially modified to the "more desirable" D's?

Interesting. I hadn't realised you were dissatisfied with your implants. In fact I didn't even know you had elected for such surgery - I'm sure it's quite unusual for a male.

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01 Feb 2009, 6:31 pm

:lmao:

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01 Feb 2009, 7:13 pm

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LOL all you want. Havnt you ever heard the saying "She's done it hard" or "She's doing it hard" or "They giving her a hard time."

I actually LOL'd at this. Sorry if I seem disrespectful.

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01 Feb 2009, 7:15 pm

Don't worry. :lol: I think it's funny now.

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01 Feb 2009, 8:28 pm

lau wrote:

ToadOfSteel wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

Because some people (like me) would rather have a pair of natural A-cups over the same pair artificially modified to the "more desirable" D's?

Interesting. I hadn't realised you were dissatisfied with your implants. In fact I didn't even know you had elected for such surgery - I'm sure it's quite unusual for a male.

Let's just say that I've got bigger titties than you do...

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01 Feb 2009, 10:39 pm

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when a woman hits a man and a cop sees it, it's assault, and where I'm from, her dumn ass will be arrested.

Where are you from?

Washington State. And given the different jobs I worked, saw it a lot. There was one incident the woman was stupid enough to call the cops on her boyfriend because after she beat the crap out of him, he popped her one to get away. The look on her face when she got handcuffed was priceless. Stupid idjit had it coming. And the cop only had to look at the guy's bruises and listen to his story and then look at her unmarked everything and ridiculous story.

Actually, I take back what I said. There were several times the cops didn't see it, and took the woman off to jail.

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01 Feb 2009, 10:44 pm

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So you are complaining here about getting treated better then. :lol:

The thing is men have to treat women differently than men because women are more sensitive and easier to upset.

No, I want to be treated equally, like one of the guys.
I know plenty of guys who are more sensitive and easier to upset than women. Look at some of the whiners on this thread, for instance.

I have to agree with you, Zee. I remember growing up and hearing that I had to act a certain way to protect a man's ego, because they were more fragile than women's.

Though I've seen sensitivity on both sides, I think it was my mother's way of teaching me how to be a lady, which cracked me up, because she was not exactly the most lady-like person in the world.

"Lady"-just another four-letter word in my book. Ha.

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01 Feb 2009, 10:51 pm

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Concerning your first sentence, I think the hippie movement is a good example of how a social movement can change what people consider attractive. If there were more natural women in advertising and the media, I think people's perceptions would change. And I don't see how a woman who modifies her natural body be removing hair, wearing makeup and ill-fitting clothes would appear to be "healthier".

You can't change what people find attractive, like what haliphron said it is neurologically hard wired, babies respond better to more attractive people. I agree with you about how their needs to be more natural women in advertising, with the whole super skinny model thing, I believe men are more neurologially attracted to more curvy women.[/quote]

Which is why men like those little tittied, big bottomed gals in the Middle ages, or those fat gals of The Renaissance, or...wait, what's that about hard wiring? Actually, all these "likes" sound like trends...

Apparently, it's not as hard (hard, hehe) wired to like certain things as some thing. I think the "hardwiring" theory is just a rationalization for what is hot now. Who knows what'll be hot in fifty years? Could be anything.

I mean, Lillian Russel of the 19th century was considered one of THE sex icons...

And she weighed 250 pounds. Hm.

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01 Feb 2009, 10:54 pm

lau wrote:

ToadOfSteel wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

Because some people (like me) would rather have a pair of natural A-cups over the same pair artificially modified to the "more desirable" D's?

Interesting. I hadn't realised you were dissatisfied with your implants. In fact I didn't even know you had elected for such surgery - I'm sure it's quite unusual for a male.

And we have a winner!

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02 Feb 2009, 12:15 am

I know exactly what you mean, Rjaye! When I was young, I remember getting explicit instructions as to how we had to be with 'Daddy.' We must never question his authority, that we should always take his word as final on a subject. We shut up when he came in a room, we left him alone until he needed something and then we were to "jump when he said froggy and only ask "how high!"

I loved it when I finally 'got' the whole thing behind the Geisha tradition. They just told the men what ever was necessary to allow the women to live at all. Art and artists in making men feel what ever it was they wanted to feel was the point. All of a sudden the half understood conversation of my mother to my father made sense and I realized how sad it was that they were both products of the times they lived in.

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02 Feb 2009, 3:07 am

Rjaye wrote:

MR_BOGAN wrote:

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Which is why men like those little tittied, big bottomed gals in the Middle ages, or those fat gals of The Renaissance, or...wait, what's that about hard wiring? Actually, all these "likes" sound like trends...

Apparently, it's not as hard (hard, hehe) wired to like certain things as some thing. I think the "hardwiring" theory is just a rationalization for what is hot now. Who knows what'll be hot in fifty years? Could be anything.

I mean, Lillian Russel of the 19th century was considered one of THE sex icons...

And she weighed 250 pounds. Hm.

What is attractive has a lot to do with what is in fashion. Yes I agree with.

Look at golden ratios, really attractive people fit these ratios, it is hardwired. I made a thread about it ages ago.
The ratio appears in nature everywhere.

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02 Feb 2009, 12:47 pm

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We're just sick of the whining women.

which is no more attractive than the smart alec whinging of small boys.

Merle

Or old age pensioners

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02 Feb 2009, 1:39 pm

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I got the same thing from my mother, except that instead of directly imposing authority, she would use the guilt trip to get me to do whatever she wants (I use the present tense because she still uses the guilt trip on me...)

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02 Feb 2009, 2:41 pm

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Look at golden ratios, really attractive people fit these ratios, it is hardwired. I made a thread about it ages ago.
The ratio appears in nature everywhere.

You may want to re-examine this. It is a popular myth.

Firstly, Leonardo da Vinci is usually cited as using the golden ratio all the time, when he in fact rarely did. Most of his ratios are only loosely at that value.

What you can do with "really attractive people" is to pick out aspects of them that approximate to ϕ. However, you can pick almost any value you like (say 1.4142 or 355/113) and show how all "really attractive people" have some different pairs of things, that happen to be using that ratio.

As for the golden ratio appearing everywhere in nature - it doesn't. There are some places it appears, to some extent, but only in an approximate way.

It's a nice number, but the golden mean itself is a purely mathematical value, which is fascinating, but actually (as with all such numbers) never exactly appears in nature.

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