For guys who are having zero replies on okcupid....
The_Face_of_Boo
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Partnered sex is not a need, you can, and many people (even people with penises, *le gasp* ik) do, live without it
Partnered sex is not a right, it's a privilege individuals grant one another.
Guys (all guys, or just the ones with penises? or people of all genders who happen to have penises? do trans*/intersex people count?) don't have any more claim to 'needing (wanting) sex' then whoever it is you are excluding with your definition of guy.
People who want sex, want sex.
What gender and/or what genitalia a person has does not dictate whether or not they want sex or make that want any more valid.
You're reading too much into my post.
I used the word 'need', i didn't claim it's a right. And didn't claim it's more valid for one gender more than other.
and the post was an attempt to make the naggers go, it wasn't serious per se.
You turn everything into a drama and attempt to make the user (always a male in this case) looks sexist.
I wasn't making any claims about you as a person. I only talked about the words/ideas (a courtesy that evidently doesn't get extended to me).
I'm sorry if I took your words literally when you didn't mean them that way. I still disagree with "guys have d**ks so they need to f**k" but since what you really meant was probably more along the lines of "guys with autism can desire relationships/sex just like guys without autism" (right?) I don't have a disagreement with you.
Right!
See? You can understand me well when you want to.
Partnered sex is not a need, you can, and many people (even people with penises, *le gasp* ik) do, live without it
Partnered sex is not a right, it's a privilege individuals grant one another.
Guys (all guys, or just the ones with penises? or people of all genders who happen to have penises? do trans*/intersex people count?) don't have any more claim to 'needing (wanting) sex' then whoever it is you are excluding with your definition of guy.
People who want sex, want sex.
What gender and/or what genitalia a person has does not dictate whether or not they want sex or make that want any more valid.
You're reading too much into my post.
I used the word 'need', i didn't claim it's a right. And didn't claim it's more valid for one gender more than other.
and the post was an attempt to make the naggers go, it wasn't serious per se.
You turn everything into a drama and attempt to make the user (always a male in this case) looks sexist.
I wasn't making any claims about you as a person. I only talked about the words/ideas (a courtesy that evidently doesn't get extended to me).
I'm sorry if I took your words literally when you didn't mean them that way. I still disagree with "guys have d**ks so they need to f**k" but since what you really meant was probably more along the lines of "guys with autism can desire relationships/sex just like guys without autism" (right?) I don't have a disagreement with you.
Right!
See? You can understand me well when you want to.
I try. It sure would help me out if you said what you meant instead of relying my rough but steadily improving Boo interpretation skillz.
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The_Face_of_Boo
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Partnered sex is not a need, you can, and many people (even people with penises, *le gasp* ik) do, live without it
Partnered sex is not a right, it's a privilege individuals grant one another.
Guys (all guys, or just the ones with penises? or people of all genders who happen to have penises? do trans*/intersex people count?) don't have any more claim to 'needing (wanting) sex' then whoever it is you are excluding with your definition of guy.
People who want sex, want sex.
What gender and/or what genitalia a person has does not dictate whether or not they want sex or make that want any more valid.
You're reading too much into my post.
I used the word 'need', i didn't claim it's a right. And didn't claim it's more valid for one gender more than other.
and the post was an attempt to make the naggers go, it wasn't serious per se.
You turn everything into a drama and attempt to make the user (always a male in this case) looks sexist.
I wasn't making any claims about you as a person. I only talked about the words/ideas (a courtesy that evidently doesn't get extended to me).
I'm sorry if I took your words literally when you didn't mean them that way. I still disagree with "guys have d**ks so they need to f**k" but since what you really meant was probably more along the lines of "guys with autism can desire relationships/sex just like guys without autism" (right?) I don't have a disagreement with you.
Right!
See? You can understand me well when you want to.
I try. It sure would help me out if you said what you meant instead of relying my rough but steadily improving Boo interpretation skillz.
Good, good, I am impressed, just more few months and you'll get the BIC (Boo Interpretation Certification!) :p.
yes but ac sucks (sorry it had to be said )
uberslop = EA in differant clothing.
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A lot of aspies are fit for relationships if someone gives them a chamce.
I agree but why should they ?
Because there are are many aspies who are a 7 or an 8 who'd be content if a 5 gave them a chance.
They may think they are a 7 or 8 but in the eyes of a NT women
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Theirs a subset of America, adult males who are forgoing ambition ,sex , money ,love ,adventure to sit in a darkened rooms mastering video games - Suicide Bob
A lot of aspies are fit for relationships if someone gives them a chamce.
I agree but why should they ?
Because there are are many aspies who are a 7 or an 8 who'd be content if a 5 gave them a chance.
Yeah, but why should even a 5 give them a chance?
ohh look, its another positive contributor to the discussion. Why dont you stand next to aussiebloke so i can smack you both in one blow
Threats of violence is ok now is it?
Is Hyplexian (sp) watching on ?
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I find the idea of being "given a chance" quite insulting, really.
"Hmmm... you do not meet the standards of my illustrious personage, however, I am feeling magnanimous, so I will give you a 6-week trial."
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Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
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"Hmmm... you do not meet the standards of my illustrious personage, however, I am feeling magnanimous, so I will give you a 6-week trial."
Like a job interview 11 years on a DSP please please give me a chance
At least they pay a 'wage subsidy " for losers like me . When it runs out what than what ? back on the dole I imagine ?
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"Hmmm... you do not meet the standards of my illustrious personage, however, I am feeling magnanimous, so I will give you a 6-week trial."
Let's say a family has a choice between two 20,000 dollar used cars. The first one is from a high status brand (eg. BMW) and the second is not. However, the second car is more powerful, offers better rust protection, has more luggage space and so on.
The family can choose the high status car, or they can give the more powerful and well-equipped car A CHANCE and discover that it's as good as (or better) than the high status car—simply by ignoring the myth that a flashy brand and an expensive marketing campaign makes a car better. Likewise, a woman can give a man who's strong, intelligent and so on, but uncool (or whatever traits popular culture deems as unworthy to live) a chance and discover that there are more important things than how many night club owners a guy knows, how fashionable his clothes are or how many parties he's invited to.
^^^^^
I think we may be talking French here Jermay Clarkson of Top Gear said a Renault Clio Sport offers 90 % (or 80 % cant recall ) of the enjoyment of a Porche 911 at 1/4-1/5 the cost . Yet the Renault is ignored , if I was in to cars and with all the money in the world I'd still go for the Renault,
I'm supposed to pay 100 K + for 10% more enjoyment am I
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"Hmmm... you do not meet the standards of my illustrious personage, however, I am feeling magnanimous, so I will give you a 6-week trial."
Let's say a family has a choice between two 20,000 dollar used cars. The first one is from a high status brand (eg. BMW) and the second is not. However, the second car is more powerful, offers better rust protection, has more luggage space and so on.
The family can choose the high status car, or they can give the more powerful and well-equipped car A CHANCE and discover that it's as good as (or better) than the high status car—simply by ignoring the myth that a flashy brand and an expensive marketing campaign makes a car better. Likewise, a woman can give a man who's strong, intelligent and so on, but uncool (or whatever traits popular culture deems as unworthy to live) a chance and discover that there are more important things than how many night club owners a guy knows, how fashionable his clothes are or how many parties he's invited to.
True. But there are only two factors I look for in a woman: is she attractive and would we get along. I hope a woman would only care about sexual attraction and chemistry. Being told I'm given a chance would upset me and I would probably lose interest in the woman. I'm guessing most girls that would chance me are superficial and out of my league anyways or not interesting to me. I rather have someone less attractive (5 or 6) than a (7, 8, 9, or 10) who would chance me. Maybe it's my ego. Maybe I think I'm too good.
It's a time-honored tradition.
My first boss taught me an important lesson about life. I quote:
"If you're invited to a banquet, you eat everything that you can fit in your mouth. And when you're done, sh** on the plate."
If you treat life as a negative-sum game, you may lose, but everyone else loses WORSE, and FASTER.
Chicks dig that.
That's a hideous outlook on life and makes the world a rotten place for everyone. It may be partially true, but the more you contribute to that, the worse the world is. I prefer trying to make the world one person better than before I came along... maybe more if I can influence others to choose kindness over selfishness.
"Hmmm... you do not meet the standards of my illustrious personage, however, I am feeling magnanimous, so I will give you a 6-week trial."
Let's say a family has a choice between two 20,000 dollar used cars. The first one is from a high status brand (eg. BMW) and the second is not. However, the second car is more powerful, offers better rust protection, has more luggage space and so on.
The family can choose the high status car, or they can give the more powerful and well-equipped car A CHANCE and discover that it's as good as (or better) than the high status car—simply by ignoring the myth that a flashy brand and an expensive marketing campaign makes a car better. Likewise, a woman can give a man who's strong, intelligent and so on, but uncool (or whatever traits popular culture deems as unworthy to live) a chance and discover that there are more important things than how many night club owners a guy knows, how fashionable his clothes are or how many parties he's invited to.
I see what you mean, but it still comes across as being compared to an object, which is insulting.
I don't know ANYONE who dates people based on how many night club owners they know, how fashionable their clothes are or how many parties they're invited to- at least, noone over the age of 13. Maybe people need to stop taking advice from people who've barely started puberty.
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Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I
The_Face_of_Boo
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"Hmmm... you do not meet the standards of my illustrious personage, however, I am feeling magnanimous, so I will give you a 6-week trial."
Let's say a family has a choice between two 20,000 dollar used cars. The first one is from a high status brand (eg. BMW) and the second is not. However, the second car is more powerful, offers better rust protection, has more luggage space and so on.
The family can choose the high status car, or they can give the more powerful and well-equipped car A CHANCE and discover that it's as good as (or better) than the high status car—simply by ignoring the myth that a flashy brand and an expensive marketing campaign makes a car better. Likewise, a woman can give a man who's strong, intelligent and so on, but uncool (or whatever traits popular culture deems as unworthy to live) a chance and discover that there are more important things than how many night club owners a guy knows, how fashionable his clothes are or how many parties he's invited to.
I see what you mean, but it still comes across as being compared to an object, which is insulting.
I don't know ANYONE who dates people based on how many night club owners they know, how fashionable their clothes are or how many parties they're invited to- at least, noone over the age of 13. Maybe people need to stop taking advice from people who've barely started puberty.
Yes, some girls care about these things, you're taking Kurgan's words too literally, it's not like those girls check his clothes' brands or keep a bookrecord about his outings, but a lot of girls (especially the extrovert/outgoing girls) would value a guy's based on his lifestyle and his entertainment value.
and if you don't know any girl like this, then sorry, you're living under a rock.
The_Face_of_Boo
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Based on OKTrends, you can tell that the number of girls who find a shirtless pic offensive is less than the number of girls who would love to reply to a guy with a shirtless pic.
And this exactly how my experience was, in fact the few girls who found my shirtless pic offensive are the same girls who never messaged or replied to me when I had a modest geeky-style clothed profile pic.
So where's the loss here? not much.
And please, pre-spare me the quality over quantity speech, the girls being interested in me there are not at all the empty-headed shallow girls.
Surprisingly, MOST of them are well-educated liberal feminists (strongest prospects: a feminist journalist with geeky interests living in beirut , an atheist lebanese architect, a rebellious atheist egyptian who lived in Beirut before , an extremely liberal mexican into the Levant political science who visited the region and Lebanon several times and will again....etc), the ones who found my pic offensive were more of the conservative religious type.
Yes, maybe there are many girls like you that would skip a guy because of his shirtless pic, but that doesn't automatically mean that they would message/reply him if he had a normal pic, in fact it's not likely they would since from what i gather here, girls are very selective in replying/messaging.
ON THE OTHER HAND, a lot of girls would get a spark while seeing a shirtless pic and because of this spark they'd message/reply him, something that wouldn't happen if the same guy had a normal pic.
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