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Well, if a nerd isn't really interested in anything except their special interest, why are they looking for a girlfriend? Wouldn't that also be 'neither here nor there' to them? So it shouldn't really matter if they don't have much success finding a date.
There are nerdy people who still have an interest in the world and don't know everything yet. I'm one of those. Actually according to a certain Venn diagram, I'm a dweeb. That's a nerd minus the obsession. Perhaps that's the key. Be smart and socially awkward, but instead of rambling on about stuff, have conversations. I know a lot of aspies thinks that's more effort than it's worth, and so again I say, such people should not be so fussed about finding a partner, because conversation is usually a big part of a relationship. You can't ramble AND relate (well you can but how would you know?).
I think he means that they show no interest in other things - not that they don't have interest at all. Think of the difference.
And as I far I know, nerds aren't necessarily asexual nor with no emotional/romantic needs as you make them sound. You know, they aren't not less humans just for your info.
They aren't not less humans?
He said "shows no interest in anything", I assumed he meant that those types of nerds show no interest in anything except the things that they obsess about. I have heard such people on this forum saying they are not interested in relationships because then they won't have time for their interest, etc etc. Someone who doesn't think that way presumably does have other interests outside their obsession (that they would be willing to chat about?), and so surely they would not be "boring" and "showing no interest", therefore, that's not the sort of person Stalk was talking about.
I think you (yellowtamarin) are confused as to what a Geek is and what a Nerd is. This link should help you out. http://www.wikihow.com/Tell-the-Differe ... -and-Geeks
In my particular case, I'm very much interested in relationships. I just can't talk to a person to establish that interpersonal bond. I appear to be not interested most of the time, but when I eventually do start to talk, the flood gates were opened and proceeding to information dump on the poor person that triggered the interest and that person only wanted to do small talk. They were touching it by the surface instead of the deeper more in-depth conversation I proceed to do most of the time.
Geeks are a nice niche to have because as this picture will explain, Geeks are a mix between intelligence and obsession. Where as Nerds/Dorks/Dweebs not so much.
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It's not dumb, the point is that Geeks escapes the social ineptitude problems because they have some form of social skills. Or another way of seeing it, the Nerds, Dorks and Dweebs are socially inept.
It is dumb. All this distinction accomplishes is creating needless infighting among outcasts. Might as well go to a Con to point out all the good looking cosplayers and call them fakers.
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Yes, lets ignore the elephant in the room for the sake of political correctness.
It's not about political correctness. It's about outcasts finding a way to further stigmatize a marginalized group on arbitrary grounds. But, if you want to argue this until you're blue in the face I can't stop you. I just won't further engage in such nonsense.
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The elephant in the room is the projection of the log in one's own eye.
There are only people.
People who are intent in classifying and branding and creating division.
If there were only two people left on this planet, after all of this, I still believe that they would still label each other as this and that and go to war.
Unity or division. Anything in between lies in the hall with the smoke, mirrors, and elephants.
Well, if a nerd isn't really interested in anything except their special interest, why are they looking for a girlfriend? Wouldn't that also be 'neither here nor there' to them? So it shouldn't really matter if they don't have much success finding a date.
There are nerdy people who still have an interest in the world and don't know everything yet. I'm one of those. Actually according to a certain Venn diagram, I'm a dweeb. That's a nerd minus the obsession. Perhaps that's the key. Be smart and socially awkward, but instead of rambling on about stuff, have conversations. I know a lot of aspies thinks that's more effort than it's worth, and so again I say, such people should not be so fussed about finding a partner, because conversation is usually a big part of a relationship. You can't ramble AND relate (well you can but how would you know?).
Because finding someone, that shares your interest, makes that interest even better?
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Oh boy...
Mcalevara, tell him.
Ok, I am going to give a generalized overview of women in the Middle East - that only apply on the fairly moderate (yet still way more religious/conservative compared to European societies yet less radical than KSA) ME countries excluding the Gulf countries like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Palestinians, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia... I can't tell much of the non-Arab ME countries.
Each of those societies, are divided in two...worlds, in the same fashion of Egypt's Brotherhood vs anti-Brotherhood, Islamists vs moderates (and each of those mega group has sub groups...but let's keep things simple), only Egypt's division is apparent in the media but this societal conflict/division exist throughout the whole Arab world and the gap is growing deeper, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq are even more complicated due to the variety of denominations/sects/ethnicity.
Ok anyway...about the ladies, you have those major groups (From most radical to most liberal), those are all generalizations but they so exist:
Extremely conservatives: Or call them hostages, women living in those families till marriage, often have from some to zero outdoor freedom, radically veiled if Muslims, very under control and marriage only happen arranged through the father and she often has no word in it- more common in extremely remote areas, very rare elsewhere. Try to screw with one and her male siblings would literally cut your dick and feed it to the dogs.
Conservative women: Externally, they might appear and behave liberal (a lot of them are even non-veiled and wear normal clothes) but they are not, they appear very moderate but they are not. They appear open-minded but they are usually not. They are often religious.
This is the most common type of women among the Arab communities and are more common among the Muslim city/town-dwellers in particular.
They have lives, they work, they go to gym, they swim, they hang out, they have social lives....but on the same time they abide to some rules, like for example no hanging out after 9 or 10 pm - no hanging out to certain places, their parents are often helicopters. Those women are often proud in the way they are, and consider themselves "good girls" compared to the "corrupted" more westernized girls (that's how they
would view them).
Relationship-wise, they are very marriage-oriented, very gender-roles-oriented, they refuse the term "Sahbeh" / girlfriend and they prefer to be referred as habiba (beloved) by the guy they love in case he's not their fiancee/husband yet - please don't ask me why! I still don't know - I think they associate the girlfriend term to premarital sex and they are against that.
If you ask out one and if she likes you, she might ask you to meet her parents *facepalm*. A guy of their ilk might even go straight to meet the parents, even asking her in prior and gets the final answer (yes/no) from her there. *facepalm*
Like a female acquaintance (who's of that category) told me the other day: "A suitor visited us the other day asking for my hand but I've told him no".
Me totally puzzled and wondering how well he even knew her before putting himself in such stupid awkward situation before her parents, the fact she declined means he doesn't even know in prior her thoughts about him!! wtf? but this is pretty common.
Their engagement period is often lengthy, can last like 4 to 5 years and in a lot of cases end up in failure, it is simply the socially and religiously acceptable substitute of the bf/gf model.
Their marriage can happen arranged but unlike the above group, normally they have the final word to it.
PS: Inter-religious marriages are rare, but they would overlook your religion because you're American. lol
Normally moderate women: often non practicing of religion or non-religious, more common among christian communities and certain city-dweller Muslim communities, but less common than the above group, relationship-wise, they date, they go gf/bf...
There are more...but I got bored and you wouldn't care about the rest...
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There are only people.
People who are intent in classifying and branding and creating division.
If there were only two people left on this planet, after all of this, I still believe that they would still label each other as this and that and go to war.
Unity or division. Anything in between lies in the hall with the smoke, mirrors, and elephants.
That doesn't change the fact how the world is.
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Well, if a nerd isn't really interested in anything except their special interest, why are they looking for a girlfriend? Wouldn't that also be 'neither here nor there' to them? So it shouldn't really matter if they don't have much success finding a date.
There are nerdy people who still have an interest in the world and don't know everything yet. I'm one of those. Actually according to a certain Venn diagram, I'm a dweeb. That's a nerd minus the obsession. Perhaps that's the key. Be smart and socially awkward, but instead of rambling on about stuff, have conversations. I know a lot of aspies thinks that's more effort than it's worth, and so again I say, such people should not be so fussed about finding a partner, because conversation is usually a big part of a relationship. You can't ramble AND relate (well you can but how would you know?).
I think he means that they show no interest in other things - not that they don't have interest at all. Think of the difference.
And as I far I know, nerds aren't necessarily asexual nor with no emotional/romantic needs as you make them sound. You know, they aren't not less humans just for your info.
They aren't not less humans?
He said "shows no interest in anything", I assumed he meant that those types of nerds show no interest in anything except the things that they obsess about. I have heard such people on this forum saying they are not interested in relationships because then they won't have time for their interest, etc etc. Someone who doesn't think that way presumably does have other interests outside their obsession (that they would be willing to chat about?), and so surely they would not be "boring" and "showing no interest", therefore, that's not the sort of person Stalk was talking about.
I think you (yellowtamarin) are confused as to what a Geek is and what a Nerd is. This link should help you out. http://www.wikihow.com/Tell-the-Differe ... -and-Geeks
In my particular case, I'm very much interested in relationships. I just can't talk to a person to establish that interpersonal bond. I appear to be not interested most of the time, but when I eventually do start to talk, the flood gates were opened and proceeding to information dump on the poor person that triggered the interest and that person only wanted to do small talk. They were touching it by the surface instead of the deeper more in-depth conversation I proceed to do most of the time.
Geeks are a nice niche to have because as this picture will explain, Geeks are a mix between intelligence and obsession. Where as Nerds/Dorks/Dweebs not so much.
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No, I'm not confused about that. That was the Venn diagram I was talking about. But I was simply responding to the description of a nerd that you were giving - one who shows no interest in anything because [bunch of reasons]. I made an assumption that relationships were a part of that "anything" that this type of person could find a reason to not be interested in (because conversations, as I said, are usually a big part of a relationship).
I understand your distinction now, though.
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Well, if a nerd isn't really interested in anything except their special interest, why are they looking for a girlfriend? Wouldn't that also be 'neither here nor there' to them? So it shouldn't really matter if they don't have much success finding a date.
There are nerdy people who still have an interest in the world and don't know everything yet. I'm one of those. Actually according to a certain Venn diagram, I'm a dweeb. That's a nerd minus the obsession. Perhaps that's the key. Be smart and socially awkward, but instead of rambling on about stuff, have conversations. I know a lot of aspies thinks that's more effort than it's worth, and so again I say, such people should not be so fussed about finding a partner, because conversation is usually a big part of a relationship. You can't ramble AND relate (well you can but how would you know?).
I think he means that they show no interest in other things - not that they don't have interest at all. Think of the difference.
And as I far I know, nerds aren't necessarily asexual nor with no emotional/romantic needs as you make them sound. You know, they aren't not less humans just for your info.
They aren't not less humans?
He said "shows no interest in anything", I assumed he meant that those types of nerds show no interest in anything except the things that they obsess about. I have heard such people on this forum saying they are not interested in relationships because then they won't have time for their interest, etc etc. Someone who doesn't think that way presumably does have other interests outside their obsession (that they would be willing to chat about?), and so surely they would not be "boring" and "showing no interest", therefore, that's not the sort of person Stalk was talking about.
I think you (yellowtamarin) are confused as to what a Geek is and what a Nerd is. This link should help you out. http://www.wikihow.com/Tell-the-Differe ... -and-Geeks
In my particular case, I'm very much interested in relationships. I just can't talk to a person to establish that interpersonal bond. I appear to be not interested most of the time, but when I eventually do start to talk, the flood gates were opened and proceeding to information dump on the poor person that triggered the interest and that person only wanted to do small talk. They were touching it by the surface instead of the deeper more in-depth conversation I proceed to do most of the time.
Geeks are a nice niche to have because as this picture will explain, Geeks are a mix between intelligence and obsession. Where as Nerds/Dorks/Dweebs not so much.
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No, I'm not confused about that. That was the Venn diagram I was talking about. But I was simply responding to the description of a nerd that you were giving - one who shows no interest in anything because [bunch of reasons]. I made an assumption that relationships were a part of that "anything" that this type of person could find a reason to not be interested in (because conversations, as I said, are usually a big part of a relationship).
I understand your distinction now, though.
At the end of the day, I completely understood what Stalk meant while you didn't.
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