Why do girls want cocky, arrogant guys?

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AbominableSnoCone
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05 Sep 2005, 11:12 am

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Interesting, while reading through all these posting on this thread I noticed something, even though most all the Lady's said they did not like or want for the most part,- the jerks and like, they still dated them to find these things out, where little is said about them dating the nerds and wimpy ones. keeping this in mind, wouldn't it be better to portray the one kind of male to at least get a date and a foot in the door then to not get anywhere at all? half the battle it seems to me is getting the girl to pay enough attention to you long enough for the girls to get to know who you are.

I absolutely agree... except the one time I did play the jerk long enough to get a girl I ended up feeling pretty ashamed of myself. I was no longer filled with periods of self-doubt and loathing at being the bitter, pathetic, little prick who could never get a girl, but now people made fun of me for the girl I did make out with (they seem to think its hilarious that we hooked up in a 'basement', three years later these idiots still won't shut up about that). I guess at least now I know I could get a girl if I was willing to sacrifice enough sel-respect and dignity to sink to the level of the as*holes who do get the girls, which is something. Unfortunately now my self-loathing at my own inadequacy has been replaced with self-loathing that I sunk to that level and betrayed my own inner nature just to prove a point, and a general belief that the human condition is inherently broken, doomed to favor its most despicable members in the evolutionary cycle.

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05 Sep 2005, 9:14 pm

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Airbikecop: You're a tad scary! I have a lot of respect for someone who is content living within their budget. Mother Theresa was also content to live in poverty, and no one thinks any the less of her. I don't see what is so wrong with the broken badminton table either: sounds like she was having some fun with her dad. I would much rather play on a broken badminton table with my dad than be brushed aside because he is too busy working his butt off making money! However, I must admit that all this depends on your definition of poverty. If poverty is living simply and not extravagantly, then there is a lot to be said for substituting violent tv programs for sporting games. If your definition of poverty is living on the street, in boxes or in rubbish dumps, with nothing to eat but what you find in the rubbish or fried rats, then I say dam* straight mister, poverty sucks! Just a pity that over two thirds of the world is living in it... Something tells me your crush wasn't living in poverty at all...

Their house looks like it's been thrown a tornado, looks abandoned, falling apart, and ruined inside., her dad is the only one with a job, and he makes around $20,000 a year. Her dad works six and a half days a week, and pulls long hours. The family is paying for the kid in college, the other two are in High School. The mom doesn't work, because she is a house wife of sorts. The cars in the drive way are made well before 1995, and are rotted. I don't think they can bathe often.

I was willing to help, but having a relationship with this person would wear me down, I'm not wasting my lifes savings helping the whole family, because that's where it'd end up. And all I know, she'd just take the money and stuff I gave her and run off with it, or ruin it.

She's got potential to get out of this rut, but doesn't want to.

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05 Sep 2005, 10:48 pm

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pernicious_penguin wrote:

most 'poor' people in the united states have it better than any other 'poor' people... especially when the primary problem they face is obesity... quite shocking really

another right-wing comment from mr penguin

stating two facts is right-wing? perhaps the you are not used to the truth and you must call people names because of this?

-the poorest in america have it better than most poor anywhere else
-the poorest american's biggest problem is obesity - this is true.

where would you like to contest me factually without calling names
I am a penguin, respect my penguinness heh

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06 Sep 2005, 12:16 am

He IS respecting your penguinness... notice he said 'Mr' Penguin.

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06 Sep 2005, 12:52 am

Why do women want cocky, arrogant guys? Because women are needy, insecure, and shallow, and traditional societal limitations forgive them for these traits while chastising men for exhibiting them.

90% of all women suck and aren't worth your time. Seriously. I'm hope I'm saving some of you the trouble by saying this. Find an Aspie chick. She'll understand you and love you for who you are.

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06 Sep 2005, 1:16 am

LOL

bit of a generalisation there, eh, thagomizer?

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06 Sep 2005, 3:28 am

Hmmm... I can see what you mean for some of that Airbikecop... but oooh, cars in the driveway that were made before 1995 eh? What's wrong with that? Mum's car is a 96 model (and fine), and my car is an 86 model are rather groovey indeed!

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06 Sep 2005, 7:43 am

Thagomizer wrote:

Why do women want cocky, arrogant guys? Because women are needy, insecure, and shallow, and traditional societal limitations forgive them for these traits while chastising men for exhibiting them.

Or, if we think rationally about this for a minute, it could be because it's a matter of preference. Heaven forbid that women cannot choose their choice in men because nice guys, in your case, must be socially acceptable for women to be with.

Since when do guys make the rules at who women should be with?

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90% of all women suck and aren't worth your time. Seriously. I'm hope I'm saving some of you the trouble by saying this. Find an Aspie chick. She'll understand you and love you for who you are.

Oh, boo-hoo. So just because you had some bad experiences with some birds because they love arrogant bastards, the entire female population deserves to be stigmatized over it? LMAO.

God, how I hate generalizations.

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06 Sep 2005, 9:46 am

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06 Sep 2005, 10:09 am

huh?

thepeaguy - great post!

i like you more and more...

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06 Sep 2005, 10:13 am

pernicious_penguin wrote:

RobertN wrote:

pernicious_penguin wrote:

most 'poor' people in the united states have it better than any other 'poor' people... especially when the primary problem they face is obesity... quite shocking really

another right-wing comment from mr penguin

Have you ever been poor, Mr Penguin. Take a look at airbikecops description of his ex-girlfriend's house for some inspiration. Just because it isn't quite Third World doesn't mean it is acceptable for people to be living like that in one of the richest countries in the world.

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06 Sep 2005, 10:57 am

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Since when do guys make the rules at who women should be with?

Since the more competative ones out-competed the weaker males and survived in the Stone Age. Today, even when these rules should no longer apply, men and women still select their mates for the same unconscious reasons.

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Oh, boo-hoo. So just because you had some bad experiences with some birds because they love arrogant bastards, the entire female population deserves to be stigmatized over it? LMAO.

And you're not making a generalization about me? You're making an assumption, which is even worse.

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God, how I hate generalizations.

That post was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, not foot-in-mouth.

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06 Sep 2005, 4:44 pm

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I drive a '96 Taurus in decent condition given how it was abused before I bought it, and my dad had a mint condition 1995 escort eariler this year. There's nothing wrong, but for a family that obesses about them, you'd think they wax and lube them constantly. About the cars, I live in an area where there's a lot of late model cars on the streets, and car dealerships are big bussiness here.

So that's kind of my fault there...

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06 Sep 2005, 6:57 pm

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Oh, please spare me this Darwin-esque crap. Even though his theory of "natural selection" does ring some home truths, it doesn't necessarily have to apply to us humans. We all have the freedom to act and choose based within our preditermined environment; we are not dictated by our genes.

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And you're not making a generalization about me? You're making an assumption, which is even worse.

Welcome to an internet forum, where assumptions of others run wild and free.

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That post was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, not foot-in-mouth.

Oh really? Well, I'm sorry, but you did not really show that your post was meant to be taken in a satirical context. Quite the opposite, actually.

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06 Sep 2005, 7:57 pm

Peaguy, I'm LOVING the icon!

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06 Sep 2005, 8:09 pm

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90% of all women suck and aren't worth your time. Seriously. I'm hope I'm saving some of you the trouble by saying this.

Find an Aspie chick. She'll understand you and love you for who you are.

Generalisation on both parts.

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yes we are. Can you think of any other reason why girls want cocky, arrogant guys?

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