Most Aspie men are in over their heads with dating.

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24 Aug 2010, 3:40 pm

FoB I said you're a troll and I stand by it.

I did not respond to satisfy you, but to demonstrate to the young men who believe that their futures are bleak, that such need not be the case.

I will not speak to you again, you just talk out of your @ss, and you aren't worth the effort to argue with.



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24 Aug 2010, 3:43 pm

I am too talkative here to be a troll .....but fine .... you are free to believe in anything.



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24 Aug 2010, 4:45 pm

Willard wrote:
FoB I said you're a troll and I stand by it.

I did not respond to satisfy you, but to demonstrate to the young men who believe that their futures are bleak, that such need not be the case.

I will not speak to you again, you just talk out of your @ss, and you aren't worth the effort to argue with.

The_Face_of_Boo is not a troll here. Of that I am almost certain.

I'm siding with Willard here. The Adult Autism Issues forum has a lot of men diagnosed with AS who, according to the poll on virginity, lost it at a "normal" age, and some who've had quite a few partners. Either a good portion of those diagnoses are wrong, or loss of virginity is not a good factor in deciding whether someone doesn't really have AS. When I read his story I honestly just thought he was very fortunate to have had that job with those callers, though I probably would have shied away in anxiety if I was in his position and an opportunity to sleep with a woman arose.

Being so far unlucky with women I'm probably not going to be considered "normal" here, but I've been considered normal by many people experienced with AS, including some people with AS. Honestly I took it as a compliment, especially from those with AS whose sincerity I didn't doubt. Certainly when my language was delayed and I was sent to a special pre-school my supposed normalcy wasn't so assured.



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24 Aug 2010, 5:01 pm

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In many countries, white men, no matter who bad looking or socially they are, are considered the cream of the crop because they come from a rich country.

Thats pretty much what it comes down to. If you can't get a white woman, find someone who does like you. Stop whining and not doing anything.


In spite of being female


Wow, don't spare the horses people, another woman hater has shown himself!
You'll never get a GF until you stop hating women.



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24 Aug 2010, 5:09 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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In many countries, white men, no matter who bad looking or socially they are, are considered the cream of the crop because they come from a rich country.

Thats pretty much what it comes down to. If you can't get a white woman, find someone who does like you. Stop whining and not doing anything.


In spite of being female


Wow, don't spare the horses people, another woman hater has shown himself!
You'll never get a GF until you stop hating women.


He claims he's married to a sweet submissive chiquita...heehe.


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24 Aug 2010, 5:11 pm

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feminist women will not like you. they will largely be intelligent, independent thinkers whose personal ambitions override any desires to sublimate their true needs in order to fulfill a familial role. you are threatened by such independence even as you are equating it erroneously with financial dependence.


I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. Especially the bolded part.


by which i mean feminism in principal is merely about the ideal of equality in opportunity irrespective of gender (although perhaps not always in practice, and certainly not always in interpretation). meaning if a man should desire a life uninhibited by societal / female expectations that he be the breadwinner or primary decision maker (etc - i cannot claim to know what men feel pressured about, but i am aware they face gender based pressures as well, and so i might be on point here or i might not), that life should be his to choose. and if a woman should desire a life uninhibited by societal / male expectations that she be subservient, dependent, and / or a mother or caretaker (or whatever else - ditto above, i can only speak for myself), that life should be hers to choose.

if you or anyone else has a life which, by desire rather than by default, happens to resemble a stereotypical role, but is what you have chosen and are satisfied with, in which you feel whole and free to be your true self, you are freed of confinements in that respect, and i wholly support that. (in other words, i mean to clarify that i am not criticizing women whose lives are very centered on their families)

also i meant that fs (to whom i was speaking in the above quote), with his statements opposing feminist culture, succeeds only in alienating women who do not fit into his mold of what women should be like. and the error in thinking comes from a rigid adherence to what anyone should be like based on their gender (and an extrapolation that one woman or several that he dislikes are representative of women in general, that we are one entity rather than individuals).

i hope this clarifies.


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24 Aug 2010, 5:55 pm

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Feminism will wipe out decent men, not through gas chambers, but rather by preventing them from reproducing.


You can't possibly be talking about yourself. Another self proclaimed nice guy who is actually a great big ars*hole.



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24 Aug 2010, 6:06 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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Feminism will wipe out decent men, not through gas chambers, but rather by preventing them from reproducing.


You can't possibly be talking about yourself. Another self proclaimed nice guy who is actually a great big ars*hole.


I know right? The thought that feminists are consciously trying to eradicate decent men from the species is laughable. We are not nazis. We're just girls who want to succeed in the professional world, as well as the dating world. Frankly, any man who claims a woman is a nazi just because she doesn't wish to stay in the kitchen isn't a decent man at all. :/



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24 Aug 2010, 6:11 pm

There are just as many aspie guys who are scum as NT guys. This thread really proves it.

I have no sympathy for many of you. Saying people are "femenists" because you think you are entitled to "vagina" is pathetic.

You aren't entitled to a girlfriend or women to be attracted to you, just like I'm not entitled to a boyfriend or men to be attracted to me.

If you don't make an effort you won't get anywhere. I don't make an effort right now, I don't have a partner because of it. But heres the catch: I'm not complaining about it.



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24 Aug 2010, 6:12 pm

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So I'm part of the whiny gang? No one's ever going to accuse me of being upbeat, but I never whine about not having a girlfriend. I'm the guy saying that I've had a girlfriend and it's overrated. While my method - trying to get aspie men to temporarily give up and care less - might not be the best method, it's more realistic than telling aspie men that "anything is possible."


You're still constantly whining - about not having sex, about AS men not having a fair chance yadda yadda and show an aggressive interest in what everybody else is doing instead of fixing your own issues (and that means actually doing something not constantly theorising about it). If someone disagrees with you or is even slightly successful, they cannot have AS.

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I've also on many occasions posted about what can be done if you want a girlfriend and a social life, and people just ignore it or say "I can't do it."


To be blunt, I see why someone wouldn't take relationship advice from a guy with no experience to speak of, who's only visible ambition in life to "lose the v card".


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24 Aug 2010, 6:34 pm

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So I'm part of the whiny gang? No one's ever going to accuse me of being upbeat, but I never whine about not having a girlfriend. I'm the guy saying that I've had a girlfriend and it's overrated. While my method - trying to get aspie men to temporarily give up and care less - might not be the best method, it's more realistic than telling aspie men that "anything is possible."


You're still constantly whining - about not having sex, about AS men not having a fair chance yadda yadda and show an aggressive interest in what everybody else is doing instead of fixing your own issues (and that means actually doing something not constantly theorising about it). If someone disagrees with you or is even slightly successful, they cannot have AS.

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I've also on many occasions posted about what can be done if you want a girlfriend and a social life, and people just ignore it or say "I can't do it."


To be blunt, I see why someone wouldn't take relationship advice from a guy with no experience to speak of, who's only visible ambition in life to "lose the v card".


Unlike most guys on here, I've dated a hot NT, even if for only a brief period of time, and I got further with her (sexually) than most guys here would. Does that make me a relationship expert? No. But it makes me more qualified than a good percentage of the guys here.

This also proves that women have no idea what it's like to be a guy. Sex probably doesn't interest you at all, or if could be that men have never shown sexual interest in you and you live with cats are just bitter yourself?



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24 Aug 2010, 6:59 pm

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Unlike most guys on here, I've dated a hot NT, even if for only a brief period of time, and I got further with her (sexually) than most guys here would. Does that make me a relationship expert?



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No.


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24 Aug 2010, 7:13 pm

foreveryoung wrote:
Sallamandrina wrote:
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So I'm part of the whiny gang? No one's ever going to accuse me of being upbeat, but I never whine about not having a girlfriend. I'm the guy saying that I've had a girlfriend and it's overrated. While my method - trying to get aspie men to temporarily give up and care less - might not be the best method, it's more realistic than telling aspie men that "anything is possible."


You're still constantly whining - about not having sex, about AS men not having a fair chance yadda yadda and show an aggressive interest in what everybody else is doing instead of fixing your own issues (and that means actually doing something not constantly theorising about it). If someone disagrees with you or is even slightly successful, they cannot have AS.

foreveryoung wrote:
I've also on many occasions posted about what can be done if you want a girlfriend and a social life, and people just ignore it or say "I can't do it."


To be blunt, I see why someone wouldn't take relationship advice from a guy with no experience to speak of, who's only visible ambition in life to "lose the v card".


Unlike most guys on here, I've dated a hot NT, even if for only a brief period of time, and I got further with her (sexually) than most guys here would. Does that make me a relationship expert? No. But it makes me more qualified than a good percentage of the guys here.

This also proves that women have no idea what it's like to be a guy. Sex probably doesn't interest you at all, or if could be that men have never shown sexual interest in you and you live with cats are just bitter yourself?

sigh. what's with the cat lady references on WP? i like dogs, and sex (not at the same time). and i've had a bunch of both (again, not at the same time).

been married for 16 years (jeepers people must be getting tired of me blabbing on about that. sorry.) to an NT man. no, i don't know what it feels like to be a man, any more than you know what it feels like to be a woman. but i do know i would not have married him if he were misogynistic or anti-feminist.

and you know what? married people have sex more often than single people. i think that could be a shock to the surprisingly high number of guys on WP who think that no-strings-attached f*cking is the route to sexual fulfillment. because, well, for most people... it isn't. if you want more sex, you need to put the work into building an actual real relationship.

according to a durex survey from 2001:

# Married couples make love 98 times per year.
# Single folks are having sex the least at 49 times a year.

http://marriage.about.com/cs/sexualstat ... istics.htm


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24 Aug 2010, 7:52 pm

I don't hate women. I hate society in general. I think many NT men are in fact worse than any of the so-called "b*tchy" women that NT and aspie men alike complain about.

I don't agree with much of fs's feminist talk. I do agree with the basic fact that non-american women are often more straight to the point and easier to get along with, as I met a lot of non-american female tourists on vacation in orlando and virginia beach, and they'd talk to me, an awkward, slightly above average looking guy, like they knew me their whole life. But I don't think all american women are garbage.

I think there are a lot of guys that give the rest of guys a bad name...but I also think women choose these guys (due to superior social skills) over guys that would be less likely to mistreat them...and the result is bitter guys like fs and the other guys on the forum, myself included at times (which I'm trying to change.)

Also, when I say I want sex...it's just a general term. I look at porn once in a blue moon, and it's often very soft-core...people making love, not having sex. I just crave physical intimacy. Touching a soft female body is the best feeling in the world.



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24 Aug 2010, 8:23 pm

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Also, when I say I want sex...it's just a general term. I look at porn once in a blue moon, and it's often very soft-core...people making love, not having sex. I just crave physical intimacy. Touching a soft female body is the best feeling in the world.


Why are you trying to justify this to these people? If people can't respect you wanting sex f**k them. I look at porn almost every day. Really hardcore s**t! I don't think touching a soft female body is the best feeling in the world. I think it's pretty good in moderation but hello it's BORING. Hell I even watched porn most days when I had a female body to touch! I even got a short blowjob while watching some!


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24 Aug 2010, 8:29 pm

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You can't possibly be talking about yourself. Another self proclaimed nice guy who is actually a great big ars*hole.


And so she validates my "in spite of being female" comment.

I don't know if there are rules on this forum againt personal attacks, but I would like to note that I never personally attack anyone, but I am usually personally attacked for my views, as was done here.


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