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13 Mar 2013, 12:24 pm

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I hate kimchi. :x Smelly. Hot. Spicy. Korean foods smells so bad

Well, no Korean husband for you, then. The South Korean government must be giving lessons in kimchi preparation to the Vietnamese wives who are moving there. Either that or the husbands are getting used to Vietnamese cooking.

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I don't think my aunts and uncles care about who I marry as long as he has good family background. If he comes from divorced parents, that would be a some turn off.

Well, I don't see why they would hold it against a potential suitor if his parents had been divorced. Especially given how common divorce is these days. Divorce is even on the increase in Korea.

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Or if he has a child from previous marriage or relationship that would be a turn off. If I was divorced or had a child then it would be fine.

I agree that it is usually better to find someone who doesn't have children, and doesn't carry a lot of baggage from previous relationships. But, these are often the ones who are most desperate. Less desperate ones are usually more picky.

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I don't want a man to drive the best expensive car. As long as his car works that's fine. Some Korean families do go overboard. He doesn't need to be the son of a CEO for instance where someday he will take over his dad's business.

From what I understand, South Korean women have the numbers on their side, are much more materialistic than they used to be, can afford to be choosy, and are choosy. VERY choosy.

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If I met a man who was a singer that would be good.

As I recall, most Koreans like to sing. Finding a man who likes to sing would be easier in Korea than in the USA.

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I'm addicted to Pitbull too so I wouldn't mind meeting someone like him too.

Oh, so THAT'S why you were wondering about those dresses. :wink:



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13 Mar 2013, 12:52 pm

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- Asian girls are very desired by White guys and often are seen as humble, cute and nice.

Yes.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
- - Asian guys aren't much desired by white girls and probably by a lot of Asian girls too.

More for us. :wtg:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8pEcOhsdjY[/youtube]

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
- - African guys are more desired than African girls by the opposite sex.

Could be the sausage factor, again.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
- - White (European) men are the most desirable in third-world non-white countries.

Part of why it is so much fun to travel. :wtg:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
-- Middle-Eastern men are desirable by White and Asian women but hindered by the fear factor.

Back when I was in college, Iranian and Arab men seemed to be getting more than their fair share. But, it was interesting--President Ahmadinejad caught heck just for hugging Hugo Chavez' mother at his funeral.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/13/opini ... _inthenews

Things seem to have changed a lot since then. Saudi students these days will not even touch a woman.

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-- Middle-Eastern women are seen as exotic by white men but not much as Asian women.


Middle-Eastern women aren't seen as accessible. I don't think that our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are enjoying nearly as much female companionship as our troops did in Vietnam, Korea and Japan.



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13 Mar 2013, 1:33 pm

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luvsterriers wrote:
I hate kimchi. :x Smelly. Hot. Spicy. Korean foods smells so bad

Well, no Korean husband for you, then. The South Korean government must be giving lessons in kimchi preparation to the Vietnamese wives who are moving there. Either that or the husbands are getting used to Vietnamese cooking.

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I don't think my aunts and uncles care about who I marry as long as he has good family background. If he comes from divorced parents, that would be a some turn off.

Well, I don't see why they would hold it against a potential suitor if his parents had been divorced. Especially given how common divorce is these days. Divorce is even on the increase in Korea.

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Or if he has a child from previous marriage or relationship that would be a turn off. If I was divorced or had a child then it would be fine.

I agree that it is usually better to find someone who doesn't have children, and doesn't carry a lot of baggage from previous relationships. But, these are often the ones who are most desperate. Less desperate ones are usually more picky.

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I don't want a man to drive the best expensive car. As long as his car works that's fine. Some Korean families do go overboard. He doesn't need to be the son of a CEO for instance where someday he will take over his dad's business.

From what I understand, South Korean women have the numbers on their side, are much more materialistic than they used to be, can afford to be choosy, and are choosy. VERY choosy.

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If I met a man who was a singer that would be good.

As I recall, most Koreans like to sing. Finding a man who likes to sing would be easier in Korea than in the USA.

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I'm addicted to Pitbull too so I wouldn't mind meeting someone like him too.

Oh, so THAT'S why you were wondering about those dresses. :wink:


Koreans tend to like expensive cars like Mercedes or BMW. You rarely see Koreans driving in Hyundais for instance. I don't care for those high end cars at all. I have a cousin in Korea for instance that has like a $200,000 car! Not for me. I'm happy with my under $20,000 car.

From what I read I do agree that in Korea divorce is getting higher. :? Not sure why. I don't think teen pregnancy is a huge issue in Korea. Korean students are all about studying studying to get into top colleges. I do know that if that child doesn't get into that top college they get very depressed and try suicide. I do recall seeing on the local news while living in Korea about some high school senior who didn't get into a top college and jumped to his or her death. It's stupid and sad. I didn't go to Harvard for instance. I went to a local college and I'm happy that I managed to get a degree due to my aspergers and learning disability. I thought I would never be able to graduate. I also have a Associates degree too. Just from watching dramas if a man has a child from previous relationship or marriage the woman's parents don't quite like that. Vice versa for the man's parents. But it's like that in real life. Once I told some of my cousins on mom's side about my ex boyfriend, they kinda gave me this look like ugh. His parents are divorced. About handbags oh yea the Korean women love to buy Gucci, Prada, Michael Kors, Chanel. I hear that a Michael Kors bag is worth a lot more in Korea. I do know that most Korean women are way too thin. I guess anorexia is a problem there but no one says anything. I see it in dramas. The actresses are way too thin. Come on ladies get a BigMac! Thin is gross.

Oh yes about Pitbull. I'm not quite attracted to Hispanic men. No offense to any Hispanic men on here. But why do they stare at women? Hispanics in my housing area for instance do yard work or types of home remodeling and they just stare at me as I either do my run or walk my dog. They don't say anything to me just but stare and sometimes smile. None of them have appealed to me. But when I saw Pitbull's photo I was like oh my gawd! He's so hot! For a man who's got no hair or somewhat, he is just dreamy! I wish I was in his videos but I would not want to dress like those bimbos. What a difference between the woman in Misery by Maroon 5 and Pitbull's videos. The women can still be pretty but don't need to shake their booty and show their half naked body. It's porn! :roll: :?


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13 Mar 2013, 2:16 pm

Perplexed at how anyone finds Pitbull hot.



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13 Mar 2013, 2:18 pm

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Perplexed at how anyone finds Pitbull hot.

i'm perplexed at anyone who has a racial preference for dating. i suppose there are big mysteries afoot.


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13 Mar 2013, 2:20 pm

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Perplexed at how anyone finds Pitbull hot.



Well of course you are a guy. You wouldn't know. :wink: :oops:


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13 Mar 2013, 2:30 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^^ and I believe this all goes down to...again.... humans proven to be apes again: looks.

Masculine features vs Feminine features .

- Asian girls have "typical feminine" physical features: short height, the softness of skin, the eyes, ..etc/ while their men have the same features making them look "less masculine".

Africans have the opposite case of Asians.


Lol. This is the biggest load of crap I ever heard. There is no source that shows Asians have softer skin, or have more feminine eyes. In fact, Asian women have relatively small eyes. Bigger eyes are proven to be related to more estrogen. All this has to do with prejudice and racial bias. Asian women are seen as submissive, cute and sweet. The 'feminine' qualities in looks that they do posses (Full lips, round face, small chin) are 'enlarged' in peoples perception and now people say they look more 'feminine' than any other race. Which is completely untrue. Asians have softer hair? Not in my experience. White women have far softer, flowier hair. You could also say that Asians have the flattest ass, smallest tits and are therefore less feminine. Thinner is not more feminine, at all.
Thus, absolute nonsense.



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13 Mar 2013, 2:47 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^^ and I believe this all goes down to...again.... humans proven to be apes again: looks.

Masculine features vs Feminine features .

- Asian girls have "typical feminine" physical features: short height, the softness of skin, the eyes, ..etc/ while their men have the same features making them look "less masculine".

Africans have the opposite case of Asians.


Lol. This is the biggest load of crap I ever heard. There is no source that shows Asians have softer skin, or have more feminine eyes. Those things have to do with stereotyping. You could also say that Asians have the flattest ass, smallest tits and are therefore less feminine.
Thus, absolute nonsense.


Since I can't really look like more of a huge as*hole/idiot thanks to this thread, I might as well pipe in and look like more of one.

I would think this is somewhat true. Asian men for example, have harder times growing beards, aren't usually as muscular, etc. I don't know if it's really inherent or just a product of environment, but yeah. This points to less testosterone and more estrogen. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/240894.php This study here says Asian women have more estrogen than white women. http://rx4u.com/natural%20hormones.htm#ESTRIOL%20(E3) I can't find the exact study quoted, so grain of salt, but it says Asian women have more estriol, so less chance of breast cancer for them, but it's the same overall in vegetarians, too.

Whether or not it makes you more feminine or not, that's irrelevant as a concept is subjective. But, generally high estrogen is correlated to high femininity.

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It seems basically Asians have higher levels of a different type of estrogen (estriol.) Whereas whites and other races would have higher levels of estradiol or progesterone perhaps? And diet could be a high influence as Asian food tends to be rather small portions of meat if there is any, that and soy which has the phytoestrogens in it, too.



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13 Mar 2013, 3:00 pm

1000Knives wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^^ and I believe this all goes down to...again.... humans proven to be apes again: looks.

Masculine features vs Feminine features .

- Asian girls have "typical feminine" physical features: short height, the softness of skin, the eyes, ..etc/ while their men have the same features making them look "less masculine".

Africans have the opposite case of Asians.


Lol. This is the biggest load of crap I ever heard. There is no source that shows Asians have softer skin, or have more feminine eyes. Those things have to do with stereotyping. You could also say that Asians have the flattest ass, smallest tits and are therefore less feminine.
Thus, absolute nonsense.


Since I can't really look like more of a huge as*hole/idiot thanks to this thread, I might as well pipe in and look like more of one.

I would think this is somewhat true. Asian men for example, have harder times growing beards, aren't usually as muscular, etc. I don't know if it's really inherent or just a product of environment, but yeah. This points to less testosterone and more estrogen. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/240894.php This study here says Asian women have more estrogen than white women. http://rx4u.com/natural%20hormones.htm#ESTRIOL%20(E3) I can't find the exact study quoted, so grain of salt, but it says Asian women have more estriol, so less chance of breast cancer for them, but it's the same overall in vegetarians, too.

Whether or not it makes you more feminine or not, that's irrelevant as a concept is subjective. But, generally high estrogen is correlated to high femininity.


Less testosterone doesn´t necessarily mean more estrogen. It´s a nice article but I study psychology and I have read at least 6 articles in past that state exactly the opposite. Three of the articles found that Asian women do have less testosterone, but that they also have less estrogen than white or black women. Less testosterone = less muscle mass, less bodyhair. Less estrogen = smaller lips, no ass, boobs, littler hair (on head). Levels of testosterone for white and black women were a bit higher than for Asians, but they also had for more estrogens (white women a bit higher than black women).

You also say "Asian women have more estriol, so less chance of breast cancer for them". That's interesting because almost all of the research in the past points to it that women with higher amounts of estrogen have a higher chance of developing breast cancer. This is one of the reasons overweight women have a bigger chance of developing breast cancer. Fat -> estrogen. You can find it on the internet. Also, girls that start their periods earlier have a higher chance. This is because estrogen levels remain higher troughout life. Asian women, actually have the lowest percentage of breast cancer (black women too). White women have the biggest chance.



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13 Mar 2013, 3:03 pm

^^^as Cafeaulait pointed out, though, asian women on average might not have *other* characteristics we associate with femininity, such as rounded bottoms or the supposedly "universally attractive" 0.7 waist/hip ratio.

anyway, i think that the idea of femininity" being most attractive is a bit reductionistic as each person sees women differently and singles out different characteristics as being feminine. i mean, people in general have fairly soft skin in every culture, and the feminine ideal for eye shape and size changes across cultures and generations.

it doesn't look like asian women necessarily have a protective effect against breast cancer from the raised hormones, so there's that.

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Our findings suggest that there are racial variations in circulating levels of endogenous hormones among premenopausal women. To the extent that higher estrogen and growth factor levels are related to increased breast cancer risk, these racial differences may help explain the differences in rates of premenopausal breast cancer between African Americans and Caucasians but do not seem to explain the differences in rates observed between Asians and Caucasians.

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/14/9/2147.long


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13 Mar 2013, 3:41 pm

I've dated or been friends with women from China, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam. They all have the common characteristic of generally communicating indirectly and using metaphors. There are times when they are amazingly direct, but usually not. I'm one of those autistic folks who does not communicate using tone of voice or facial expressions. I've found that you can get into trouble with Asians very quickly, if you aren't able to quickly assess the context and content of what they say. However, as a cultural characteristic, they generally don't have an ax to grind with men, so you start out on neutral footing, or maybe a little better. So, like everything else in life, Asian women have more sides than a coin. In my opinion, if a guy can handle the adjustments in communication and the girl is willing to do the same, then an Asian babe is an excellent choice.

A popular misconception is that Asian women are almost childlike in the relationships with men. While that may occur in their native nation, I've found that they are excellent company and form very thoughtful opinions. Also, if it issues and building, they tend to communicate very early in the process, rather than allowing emotions to build to an explosion or a situation that requires remediation.

Regarding the issue of race and dating, among my friends who look for Asians and women from other such groups, the characteristics they cite as attractive are generally related to culture. In particular, they are looking for a woman who has a high degree of compatibility with men. "We're in your face and were not going away" is okay in a television documentary or news program, but most guys don't want that sort of attitude sitting next to them or sleeping in their bed.

By the way, don't forget about Filipinos.



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13 Mar 2013, 3:53 pm

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I've dated or been friends with women from China, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam. They all have the common characteristic of generally communicating indirectly and using metaphors. There are times when they are amazingly direct, but usually not. I'm one of those autistic folks who does not communicate using tone of voice or facial expressions. I've found that you can get into trouble with Asians very quickly, if you aren't able to quickly assess the context and content of what they say. However, as a cultural characteristic, they generally don't have an ax to grind with men, so you start out on neutral footing, or maybe a little better. So, like everything else in life, Asian women have more sides than a coin. In my opinion, if a guy can handle the adjustments in communication and the girl is willing to do the same, then an Asian babe is an excellent choice.

A popular misconception is that Asian women are almost childlike in the relationships with men. While that may occur in their native nation, I've found that they are excellent company and form very thoughtful opinions. Also, if it issues and building, they tend to communicate very early in the process, rather than allowing emotions to build to an explosion or a situation that requires remediation.

Regarding the issue of race and dating, among my friends who look for Asians and women from other such groups, the characteristics they cite as attractive are generally related to culture. In particular, they are looking for a woman who has a high degree of compatibility with men. "We're in your face and were not going away" is okay in a television documentary or news program, but most guys don't want that sort of attitude sitting next to them or sleeping in their bed.

By the way, don't forget about Filipinos.


Filipinos aren't too prevalent where I am. They are somewhat, and the ones I've met have been pretty nice and accepting of me. For me it's a lot of Chinese, Vietnamese, and Thai. A few Koreans, almost no Japanese (I've probably met like 3 Japanese people in real life.)

What I did learn in this thread is it's mostly just a socioeconomic problem. The Asians that were nice to me tended to be poorer, and the ones that weren't as nice tended to be richer. So in that regard it's basically the same as dealing with anyone else. Just I mistakenly attributed it to their race specifically. It is somewhat to do with race, as many of the Asians here are obsessed with nice cars, nice house, good college, etc, so they won't associate with anyone not in the same social class, if that makes any sense. Which happens with white folks, too. Like the Hmong owned market here is in a much worse part of town (basically the ghetto) and they were way nicer to me from the getgo, whereas the other market wasn't as nice to me in the beginning. It's taken like 4-5 years for them to get to anywhere around the same level of being able to have conversations with them, for them to ask me how I am, etc.



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13 Mar 2013, 4:12 pm

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...What I did learn in this thread is it's mostly just a socioeconomic problem. The Asians that were nice to me tended to be poorer, and the ones that weren't as nice tended to be richer. So in that regard it's basically the same as dealing with anyone else...


There does seem to be a very strong caste system among many Asians regarding economics and education. I've seen one clear exception, which are people who have gone through some sort of a refugee camp together. I know a lot of indigenous Vietnamese and Vietnamese who are ethnically Chinese who went through the refugee camps in Malaysia. Most of them have a very humble attitude and a tendency to be very helpful and generous. Almost all of them work hard and to the best of their ability work smart. Have a lot of respect for them. From my observation, Korea has the greatest disparity regarding an economic caste system. Wealthy Koreans can be really aloof. However, a Korean engineering student working his butt off to get through graduate school is often super nice and super helpful.

Filipinos seem to have a set of values and principles that they hold very tightly. They tend not to be relativistic. They seem to have a loyalty to the concept of friendship and the institution of marriage that lends them to happy relationships. Combine that with a positive attitude toward men and you got a great start.



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13 Mar 2013, 4:46 pm

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Koreans tend to like expensive cars like Mercedes or BMW. You rarely see Koreans driving in Hyundais for instance. I don't care for those high end cars at all. I have a cousin in Korea for instance that has like a $200,000 car! Not for me. I'm happy with my under $20,000 car.

American soldiers these days must be rather lonely compared to a generation ago in Korea. No way that a soldier is going to be able to afford a Korean woman if they have such high demands these days.

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Korean students are all about studying studying to get into top colleges. I do know that if that child doesn't get into that top college they get very depressed and try suicide. I do recall seeing on the local news while living in Korea about some high school senior who didn't get into a top college and jumped to his or her death. It's stupid and sad.

Korean students used to be more about going out, having a good time, and attending protest rallies.

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Once I told some of my cousins on mom's side about my ex boyfriend, they kinda gave me this look like ugh. His parents are divorced.

But, now you are in your thirties. By that age, a man is generally entrenched in his career, building his own life, etc. His childhood circumstances should no longer be relevant.

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About handbags oh yea the Korean women love to buy Gucci, Prada, Michael Kors, Chanel. I hear that a Michael Kors bag is worth a lot more in Korea. I do know that most Korean women are way too thin. I guess anorexia is a problem there but no one says anything. I see it in dramas. The actresses are way too thin. Come on ladies get a BigMac! Thin is gross.

You can't get the cheap counterfeit knockoffs in Korea any more? Yes: even Korean brands like Samsung are twice the price in Korea as in the USA. And, I would rather they didn't take up eating our fast food.

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Oh yes about Pitbull. I'm not quite attracted to Hispanic men. No offense to any Hispanic men on here. But why do they stare at women? Hispanics in my housing area for instance do yard work or types of home remodeling and they just stare at me as I either do my run or walk my dog. They don't say anything to me just but stare and sometimes smile. None of them have appealed to me.

I don't know. They probably don't mean any harm.

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But when I saw Pitbull's photo I was like oh my gawd! He's so hot! For a man who's got no hair or somewhat, he is just dreamy! I wish I was in his videos but I would not want to dress like those bimbos. What a difference between the woman in Misery by Maroon 5 and Pitbull's videos. The women can still be pretty but don't need to shake their booty and show their half naked body. It's porn! :roll: :?


À chacun son goût, I suppose. :shrug:

If you marry a Korean, then you would be expected to move into his house, take care of his parents, and be bossed around by your mother-in-law, wouldn't you?



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...Asian women are seen as submissive, cute and sweet. The 'feminine' qualities in looks that they do posses (Full lips, round face, small chin) are 'enlarged' in peoples perception and now people say they look more 'feminine' than any other race. Which is completely untrue. ....You could also say that Asians have the flattest ass, smallest tits and are therefore less feminine. Thinner is not more feminine, at all.
Thus, absolute nonsense.


Well, I like cute little bottoms, and I'm perfectly fine with small titties.



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I would have to add, too, that Korean girls were VERY nice, and very easy to fall in love with.

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I am half Japanese and have been objectified in the same way. It IS creepy. The number of guys who are like that seems to have skyrocketed in the last decade.


While most Asian and half-Asian girls are very pretty, I would assume that most who grew up in America would be more similar to other Americans than to Asians in Asia. It would be silly to expect otherwise.


How is that silly? My mom raised me very traditionally and I am less Westernized than most of my friends in Japan.
BTW I'm not a girl.