Look out! It's a Nice Guy! DESTROY HIM!!

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i wanna taste his booty

Please assume the position.

pimples and hormones and developing adams apples set the scene for an ugly development of many male teenagers.
teenage males are quite repulsive to me. they sound like honking geese when they laugh.

why be so dependent on other people for one's own development? i developed happily on my own, and i do not need a girl to tell me that i am valuable.

i really could not care less about approval. approval comes from without, and i live within so it is irrelevant to me.

Yes I know, because men are not capable of having feelings about anything beyond the penis area. There's absolutely no such thing as a single guy who wants a meaningful romantic relationship, not just sex, but who simply could find a girlfriend or wife. They all just want sex.

How wonderful.

Words of wisdom, b9.

Do you know what I hate about this kind of reasonings?

The common use of ambiguous words.

For example: 'nice guys think that they are entitled to sex just by being nice'. Well: what the hell that means? what means exactly 'entitled'?. Does it mean that the other person is forced to have sex? Well, as long as I know, they're not raping anybody, aren't they?.

Does it mean that they think that they are good enough to deserve a relation with the other person? And, if this is the case, what's the problem? Are they not?

If you don't think you're good enough for me, then you're a poor loser without self-stemm. If you think that you're good enough for me, then you think you're entitled to have a relationship with me, and then you're a bastard too. So, what's the point?

What this 'nice guy' does that goes beyond just thinking that he's a valuable person and makes his behaviour to become unacceptable? Oh, 'he think he's entitled'... and what the f**k is that? What he does, exactly, to show this 'entitlement' attitude?

It's a subconscious assumption that they operate from by default which generally shows eventually in one's attitude or behaviour. An unspoken expectation that if they do *this (insert example here - pay for dinner, spend time with person, etc) * or *that (being nice) * particular thing, they will get a certain something (usually sex, in this discussion) in return. Most won't come straight out and say it like that though. They have a choice of their dropping all the expectations, or communicating directly what they want (physically, verbally or both) - failing to do either pretty much ends up evolving into an entitlement attitude if they let it become a consistent pattern of behaviour in similar situations.

I can think of someone in particular. I would not describe him as "nice" but he certainly has an entitlement attitude. He expects any girl who dances with him for the majority of the night to go home with him, and will push to get it. He won't say it in those words, but that expectation and assumption shows in how he behaves. He will proceed to get very pissed off or b*tch about that girl later if she then refuses to go home with him. It's not pretty to watch.

Maybe replace "entitled" with expectation. If a guy is pleasant and ingratiating to a girl solely because of an expectation that it will lead to more, I think that's unacceptable because of the motivation behind the action. (manipulative). The use of entitlement Isn't so ambiguous. There's a sense of expectation, and perhaps feeling cheated out of sex if the recipient doesn't concur. If that sense of disappointment or even anger becomes apparent, that's where it becomes alienating.

And what's the problem with 'expectation'? Why having expectations is 'unacceptable' and 'manipulative'? (quite strong words)

If you date a girl you like, are you not allowed to have 'expectations'? Why???



You wouldn't describe him as 'nice'.

But... what we're talking about? About 'nice guys' that can't be described as 'nice'? So, if they can't be described as 'nice', perhaps it's because... well, those guys you're talking about... are NOT 'nice'?

It's like saying 'hey, I don't like independent girls, because they're totally dependant'. WTF! You don't like nice guys because they're not nice. So, why, WHY are you calling them 'nice' in first place? What are you talking about???

Unless you're telling that you didn't like the attitude of this guy... who was not nice, by the way.

So you don't like nice guys... because you didn't like how behaved a guy who was NOT nice. What's next? You don't like tomatoes because you don't like how apples taste?

Tell me, because I can't find any sense.

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Goals or an ideal, yes. An expectation is an assumption that something(ie sex) is a given, which is never true. You may have a certain trajectory in mind, but there is no obligation for the girl to help you get there. Entitlement isn't about being worthy of sex, it's an expectation that a girl should absolutely provide sex because of the (nice) behavior provided.

^ Kjas, but here's something that you women aren't getting, you're always equating Nice to Entitlement for sex, a lot (MOST) of players and 'bad boys' feel entitled for sex and they do b***h about the girls who rejected them.

They are two different things, I dunno why you always relate them together.

The difference that their enormous ego (the bad boys/players) is too macho to b***h about girls in front of girls (they know it makes them sound insecure and less attractive) - but they do it in front of other guys instead . That's why you girls think that bad boys don't b***h like Nice Guys but you're completely wrong.

Basically the only difference between Nice Guy's bitching and Bad Boy's bitching is the gender of the recipient.


I say that a lot of girls DO love the 'badness' tho, - I recall that bullies had a lot of fans at school, and those with the 'bad boy' image in general.
Hybristophilia in lesser degrees ;p

Women...

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Ah.

And how that comes to practice? Does he force her? Does he abuse her? What all this involve exactly?

Let me ask ask you this then. Suppose a guy is a little bit socially inept and does know how to talk to the girl directly. Maybe he was nervous or lacked confidence or for whatever other reason. Don't you think that it's a bit unfair then to say that that he was being nice "solely" because of an expectation? Should somebody be considered "manipulative" simply due to a lack of social skills (or dating skills in this case)? Last of all, how the bloody hell do you know that he was only looking for sex?

I think it's more about the engaging and friendly behavior ending abruptly when it becomes obvious that the male in question Isn't getting what he was seeking. As Kjas mentioned, badmouthing the girl suddenly because she didn't fall in line.

It's not about the "niceness", but the change in attitude and lack thereof when sex isn't provided on cue. I'm not saying all friendly guys are looking for sex, but there are a noticeable subset who do.

DIE NICE GUYS DIE!