How to use OKCupid (from an actual success story.)
That's nice, dear.
I still maintain my point that if you are not interested in conversing with someone (or not able show interest in conversing) because they are talking about something that isn't your special interest, or is something you already knew, etc etc, then you should think about whether it would be appropriate to form a relationship with that person.
I still maintain my point that if you are not interested in conversing with someone (or not able show interest in conversing) because they are talking about something that isn't your special interest, or is something you already knew, etc etc, then you should think about whether it would be appropriate to form a relationship with that person.
If we think like that it will narrow our options down too much, which basically means we will give up before we even tried. I would like to think that learning more social "tricks" would help out. It will be mentally tiring having to keep it up, but it is essential to communicate and find out if people are compatible. If I could be a Geek, I would.
Example of socially inept person.
Josie : *Winks flirtingly*
Ben : Oh do you have something in your eye? Want me to go get you some eye drops?
Josie : You are so socially inept *walks off*
I would like to think the Geek would have figured out earlier what is going on.
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I still maintain my point that if you are not interested in conversing with someone (or not able show interest in conversing) because they are talking about something that isn't your special interest, or is something you already knew, etc etc, then you should think about whether it would be appropriate to form a relationship with that person.
If we think like that it will narrow our options down too much, which basically means we will give up before we even tried. I would like to think that learning more social "tricks" would help out. It will be mentally tiring having to keep it up, but it is essential to communicate and find out if people are compatible. If I could be a Geek, I would.
Example of socially inept person.
Josie : *Winks flirtingly*
Ben : Oh do you have something in your eye? Want me to go get you some eye drops?
Josie : You are so socially inept *walks off*
I would like to think the Geek would have figured out earlier what is going on.
um..no, geeks can be aspie too hence socially inept too lol.
I think we are not on the same wavelength anymore, I was drawing a line between fictional geeks (geeks who are more into fiction stuff like animes, magic, arts, palm reading and often having "crazy" looks like weirdly dyed hairs, tattoos, arty.... call them hipsters or artists....wtv) and nerdy-geeks who who lacks the 'crazy' element and are more into factual things (call them nerds if you like).
Both can be socially inept, but ON OKCUPID, the former type are more common and arger female population of that type of geeks than our type.
I still maintain my point that if you are not interested in conversing with someone (or not able show interest in conversing) because they are talking about something that isn't your special interest, or is something you already knew, etc etc, then you should think about whether it would be appropriate to form a relationship with that person.
^^^This. According to the Venn diagram, I'd be a Nerd. I'm still quite socially inept. Still, if you have actual chemistry with someone, it shouldn't be that hard to hold your interest.
My year of casual dating experience was made up of a lot of painful trial, error and heartbreak along the way. That's the nature of dating and unless you can learn from those experiences, you won't get past the starting line.
I think the part where I defer from most Nerds is that I accepted my social ineptitude and that allowed me to not take things as seriously. In the past I would be very self concious and afraid to actively engage and that would lead to me coming across as moody, standoff-ish or creepy apprently. Now the more common adjectives I've heard are laid back and funny. I've done very little to actually change my behavior but my change in attitude has noticable external effects. Ambivalance can be your friend if you use it right........
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Oh boy...
Mcalevara, tell him.
Ok, I am going to give a generalized overview of women in the Middle East - that only apply on the fairly moderate (yet still way more religious/conservative compared to European societies yet less radical than KSA) ME countries excluding the Gulf countries like Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Palestinians, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia... I can't tell much of the non-Arab ME countries.
Each of those societies, are divided in two...worlds, in the same fashion of Egypt's Brotherhood vs anti-Brotherhood, Islamists vs moderates (and each of those mega group has sub groups...but let's keep things simple), only Egypt's division is apparent in the media but this societal conflict/division exist throughout the whole Arab world and the gap is growing deeper, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq are even more complicated due to the variety of denominations/sects/ethnicity.
Ok anyway...about the ladies, you have those major groups (From most radical to most liberal), those are all generalizations but they so exist:
Extremely conservatives: Or call them hostages, women living in those families till marriage, often have from some to zero outdoor freedom, radically veiled if Muslims, very under control and marriage only happen arranged through the father and she often has no word in it- more common in extremely remote areas, very rare elsewhere. Try to screw with one and her male siblings would literally cut your dick and feed it to the dogs.
Conservative women: Externally, they might appear and behave liberal (a lot of them are even non-veiled and wear normal clothes) but they are not, they appear very moderate but they are not. They appear open-minded but they are usually not. They are often religious.
This is the most common type of women among the Arab communities and are more common among the Muslim city/town-dwellers in particular.
They have lives, they work, they go to gym, they swim, they hang out, they have social lives....but on the same time they abide to some rules, like for example no hanging out after 9 or 10 pm - no hanging out to certain places, their parents are often helicopters. Those women are often proud in the way they are, and consider themselves "good girls" compared to the "corrupted" more westernized girls.
Relationship-wise, they are very marriage-oriented, very gender-roles-oriented, they refuse the term "Sahbeh" / girlfriend and they prefer to be referred as habiba (beloved) by the guy they love in case he's not their fiancee/husband yet - please don't ask me why! I still don't know - I think they associate the girlfriend term to premarital sex and they are against that.
If you ask out one and if she likes you, she might ask you to meet her parents *facepalm*. A guy of their ilk might even go straight to meet the parents, even asking her in prior and gets the final answer (yes/no) from here there. *facepalm*
Like a female acquaintance (who's of that category) told me the other day: "A suitor visited us the other day asking for my hand but I've told him no".
Me totally puzzled and wondering how well he even knew her before putting himself in such stupid awkward situation before her parents, the fact she declined means he doesn't even know in prior her thoughts about him!! wtf? but this is pretty common.
Their engagement period is often lengthy, can last like 4 to 5 years and in a lot of cases end up in failure, it is simply the socially and religiously acceptable substitute of the bf/gf model.
Their marriage can happen arranged but unlike the above group, normally they have the final word to it.
PS: Inter-religious marriages are rare, but they would overlook your religion because you're American. lol
Normally moderate women: often non practicing of religion or non-religious, more common among christian communities and certain city-dweller Muslim communities, but less common than the above group, relationship-wise, they date, they go gf/bf...
There are more...but I got bored and you wouldn't care about the rest...
I could live with that. You can't deny that divorce rate in Lebanon is only 17% when it's 53% here in the United States. You guys are doing something right the chances of you finding a good woman over there are greater than they are here face of boo.
Women here in the states have much more options and appreciate things a lot less. So when things don't go their way in the slightest form they will ask for a divorce and clean out your bank account a lot of times.
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^ There's social stigma regarding divorce here, and the Maronite church (the largest chrisian sect) never grants a divorce unless it gets permission from the Catholic pope himself; and they keep nosing and trying to fix the marriage before they consider that option, that's because they(the church) believe that divorce is sin, and their divorce often doesn't grant the right to remarry.
It's also fairly hard in other Christian sects.
Yes, divorce rate is low, but not necessarily for good reasons.
Who could dare to say but yourself.
Oh, it's the "it's all in your head" stupid argument.
Hmmm.
Reading your posts, and your endless (and rather futile) classificions (which you abort because you realise you could go on forever), I could suggest that it is your classification that is the 'all in your head' stupid argument and very few people fall neatly into boxes. And most people reading this have spent their whole lives being classified as something or another - yet here you are happy to do so.
Your "that's how the world works" so I'll join in argument (plainly absurd), is like saying 'okay mein fuhrer, where shall we put the Zyklon B?' It's joining in this simplistic division conspiracy - that discrimintates against people on the spectrum, and people who do not fit a 'mainstream' model that actually fits so few anyway.
The prevailing powers and ruling elites have always enjoyed the 'divide and conquer' approach. Hell, let's set woman against man, man against child, geek against nerd, middle class against underclass...so we forget we're all people.
The end result of classification - you vs. everybody else. Why even start to go down that road?
High divorce rates are a natural result of people getting married who shouldn't in the first place. And yes, Lost, I'm sure women deserve all of the blame..........
If marriage was as much institutionalized slavery in the west as it is in other parts of the world and in the past, then divorce rates would be lower.
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Who could dare to say but yourself.
Oh, it's the "it's all in your head" stupid argument.
Hmmm.
Reading your posts, and your endless (and rather futile) classificions (which you abort because you realise you could go on forever), I could suggest that it is your classification that is the 'all in your head' stupid argument and very few people fall neatly into boxes. And most people reading this have spent their whole lives being classified as something or another - yet here you are happy to do so.
Your "that's how the world works" so I'll join in argument (plainly absurd), is like saying 'okay mein fuhrer, where shall we put the Zyklon B?' It's joining in this simplistic division conspiracy - that discrimintates against people on the spectrum, and people who do not fit a 'mainstream' model that actually fits so few anyway.
The prevailing powers and ruling elites have always enjoyed the 'divide and conquer' approach. Hell, let's set woman against man, man against child, geek against nerd, middle class against underclass...so we forget we're all people.
The end result of classification - you vs. everybody else. Why even start to go down that road?
Well, that's planet earth we're living on, wake up.
I am neither creating labels nor I am conspiring, but if social constructsism don't exist then there would be no AS and no WP in the first place, we wouldn't even be here.
No, it isn't. That's your perception, perhaps - to magnify 'differences' between people. And to go along with them. When the differences aren't that huge.
Surely the point is to build bridges, not endlessly create gaps. I thought that was the point of WP. Yes, people learn about themselves so gaps that we all have to face every day can be bridged. And, if that can be done with AS and NT, surely that can be done in any community - regardless of religious strife, and so on.
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Surely the point is to build bridges, not endlessly create gaps. I thought that was the point of WP. Yes, people learn about themselves so gaps that we all have to face every day can be bridged. And, if that can be done with AS and NT, surely that can be done in any community - regardless of religious strife, and so on.
What can I say? I am just a good observant of the world.
For example, here on WP there are people who view AS as a cult - "next evolution step", "we are special", "we are smarter than NTs" ... I am not inventing any of this, nor conspiring against anyone, just check the General autism part and see how common these attitudes there are.
Surely the point is to build bridges, not endlessly create gaps. I thought that was the point of WP. Yes, people learn about themselves so gaps that we all have to face every day can be bridged. And, if that can be done with AS and NT, surely that can be done in any community - regardless of religious strife, and so on.
What can I say? I am just a good observant of the world.
For example, here on WP there are people who view AS as a cult - "next evolution step", "we are special", "we are smarter than NTs" ... I am not inventing any of this, nor conspiring against anyone, just check the General autism part and see how common these attitudes there are.
As Crystal Child I take great exeption on to you belittling my belief system. Also Jesus, Muhammad and the Buddah were all Autistic......... Off to use my innate telepathic abilities to save the world.
You're good at interpreting stimuli to create artificial constructs of a reductivist nature, yes. And you could do this forever.
There's a difference between celebrating aspects of what one is - and lowering everyone else to make one feel better.
I don't get your last point. In fact, it backs mine up - people who intent on 'observing the world' will merely ape the worst aspects they choose to see (their focus), and those AS separatists are looking for division upon division - which always boils down to the one person vs the rest. Even in a world of aspies this would happen.
'I see x, therefore I must do x' - great, but by seeing x you are ignoring many other things. That's not seeing the world, that's obscuring it with a narrow torchlight.
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