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I think the issue more that she does not understand how much I actually care.

Not that I'm sure it makes any difference given my inevitable social failing.

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To say the least it's a lot more confusing than that between us & all I can really do is be patient. It's been too late over & over again before regardless, much like today.


Whatever connection I'm actually talking about runs pretty deep & doesn't get discused much.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

I really hope you don't get hurt

Well it's not as if I think I'd be better off more alone than I am. Admittedly both she & I know I burn out quickly on social interaction anyway.

Not too many people ever got around my shyness at that level & I appreciate that for what it is.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

I just noticed my inane, probably drunken use of a double negative there, but I digress.

Beyond the fact she's a brilliant artist, she's always been more respectful than most towards my mad scientist tendencies. Whomever she is to everyone else, she's the closest female friend I know. I have no idea how I would have dealt with the last decade without her around. I isolate more than I should in a crowded room but she's done a lot to remind me I can do better than that.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

Either you'll approache her or you'll never be the one who is with her even if she is into you. If she dislikes the idea of that she'll let you know. It's just as simple.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

I should have pasted this sooner, I think the princess from Mars was more eloquent about what I'm trying to say than I in this thread so far:

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

I see all kinds of people posting about giving up on these things; I didn't post this thread because that's actually what I want to do. No matter how shy & alienated any of us may be, that doesn't make it irrelevant to love anybody.

I think all of us here looking for help have good, valid reasons for trying, even if we don't know them.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

Truth.

Last you posted, you sounded very happy with your relationship. Are things still going well?

By most people's standards I don't relate to anyone very well at all but at least I had a productive week & feel OK. Where I am it's hard to say what my relationships mean on anyone else's terms, I'm alone in my basement listening to rave music on a Friday so truth be told nothing is happening in that regard but I'm relatively alright.

Besides my housemates I don't see people much these days. I hope that changes but that also means me changing.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

To be fair, nobody is really going out to see anyone outside of their household right now, so no rush there!

I'm glad that you are doing relatively okay, and having housemates sounds nice.

I'm more in the dark than in a rush most days. Having all this time on my hands doesn't exempt me from any obligations.

Most of what I see in the rest of this forum is endless threads on everything that's wrong with us. It's a lot to think through.

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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos

I think the frequent berating of ASD traits on here is mostly venting a frustration.

Most people (regardless of neurotype) are broken in some way. (Even arrogant people are often masking insecurities.)

So, to that level, I genuinely believe there is something wrong with everyone.

Not that we all ought to fix ourselves, but that we all ought to learn to accept one another's limitations/insecurity/eccentricities.

Maybe some people will return your kindness to you, maybe they won't. All you can do is be the person you wish everyone else would be.

Just one caveat: never allow another person to intentionally hurt you.

We all cause accidental pain sometimes, but if someone is actively trying to cause you pain, you need to distance yourself from them, for your own sanity.