Didn’t come as a surprise that he was a virgin!

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Thanks.

People have explained the pill thing to me before but I can never remember what the movie is, or which colour means what.

I realise I have heard of the butterfly effect. That one makes sense to me. I kind of believe that since everything in my mind is based on connections and synthesis that other people don't quite understand. I like the ideology that we all affect everything through cause and effect. I know it may not be true, but it sounds nice. It emphasises the need for personal accountability imo, kind of like this:



Because A Little Bug Said Ka-Choo

Entirely off topic I know (and God knows this thread could do with a diversion), but the butterfly effect reminded me of a short SF story by Ray Bradbury - "A Sound of Thunder".

Found a link to it, here: https://xpressenglish.com/our-stories/sound-of-thunder/
It even has its own Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sound_of_Thunder

Ramblings from a Ray Bradbury fan.
As you were, do carry on...

I have some thoughts about this. So I could probably make a credible claim that "virgin" could mean either of two things:

1.) Never having experienced sexual intimacy with a member of whatever category of person one is attracted to, by sexual intimacy I mean intimacy that involves one or possibly both participants achieving orgasm as a part of the encounter, or at least an attempt to achieve orgasm.
2.) For heterosexuals, it means never having experienced penis-in-vagina penetration or however you want to identify it, typically once a male has ejaculated into a female's vagina then if either was a virgin, in this sense, before that happened, then neither is afterward.

Having said this, I think I can confidently say that (for now assuming cisgender heterosexual context) that the male point of view is distinctly different from the female point of view. For a guy, being naked together with a similarly naked young woman whose body he finds attractive, having been given permission to touch her however he wishes, and her being willing to touch him in whatever way he asks, is the probably the greatest thrill he has ever experienced, the first time it happens to him (I am referring to a situation in which the female participant is willing and also desirous to experience such intimacy). However, it seems that the opposite isn't so true. The female participant in the intimacy may enjoy what's happening but probably won't be nearly so thrilled by the experience, and will at least claim to be able to identify other activities she would enjoy equally or perhaps even more so. Unless she is madly in love with that guy to the point of obsession.

Now as for the second form of virginity, some women really really like PIV intercourse and will even seek opportunities to engage in it if not in an established relationship, in fact intimacy that doesn't lead to a satisfying act of PIV doesn't interest them in the least. As for men, when presented with a situation in which a women asks to have intercourse, being a virgin in the 2nd sense is a clear handicap as he basically won't know what to do, and this is something women in that situation might not care to deal with. Note these are broad generalizations but I have had enough experience to know there is real truth in this. This is why men will often not admit to being virgins in this sense, along with a general sense of personal failure, and of course being on the Autism Spectrum makes things worse.

In conclusion, I will say that self-consciousness over being a virgin, for men, is not entirely silly or ridiculous, and those whom it affects deserve some empathy, at least.

This isn't "anecdotal"; it's primary source.

I used to go to nightclubs in my 20's. I can confidently say for a fact that women have a limitless buffet when it comes to dating/sex: alpha men they lust after, beta schmucks willing to buy them dinner, and their friends they make out with and more (the latter applies to straight women). This is a total opposite of most beta males' lives.

So when I hear about women having dating/sexual problems, I take it with a grain of salt so big, it'll take hours to melt in a pot of boiling water. Not saying it's false, but still.