Majority of autistuc men dont have a girlfriend?

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I never claimed that the longing for physical intimacy was “just societal.”

I'm seeing posts about asking a woman out on a date that are very "all-or-nothing," in the sense that what is being envisioned is going up to a stranger and just asking her out, which I don't think is the easiest thing to do, for anyone, and is likely to lead to rejection because it's too sudden and too much is riding on the one ask. In my experience, that has never happened, that someone just asked me out all of a sudden out of the blue. It's always been more gradual, and leading to a suggestion that maybe we could get together sometime, or that we might cross paths again. Something less fraught.

As far as sex, I think it's primarily an opportunity to feel close and maintain closeness with a partner and not just or even primarily a means to physical pleasure.

Yep, it isn't.

I have long suggested that men make friends first rather than advertise romantic interest. the downside is (of course) is that you might be friendzoned for years by not stating your intentions.

I'm not saying exactly that. One can show romantic interest, for instance by engaging someone in a one on one conversation and asking questions that show personal (non-creepy) interest (for instance asking about what they like, even just movies or books, or asking about their aspirations) or paying a polite compliment. Something that suggests interest but maintains deniability if it's not reciprocated. I realize this is a subtle dance that may be outside the skillset of many young men, especially those on the spectrum.

Yeah, it doesn’t have to take a lot of time to get to know someone well enough to ask them out. I just do not like being asked out by complete strangers, not that that’s really happened in a while or often. It made me super uncomfortable when it did because it’s impossible to know what a stranger’s intentions are or if we’re even remotely compatible.

I have been in the same boat until 2018, until I met a Russian girl on Facebook. I have been in Moscow twice with her, once in Nizhni Novgorod in Russia, and in Minsk in Belarus.

Besides that, I also have the problem with dishonest people. They talk different from what they think. I often found that out much later, noticing they were lying to me and deceiving me. It is not just about women that play tricks with me, also men (but I am just less depedent from men). Whether it is about romantic interest, or at the workplace. People are hiding something for me, and playing nice. Sooner or later I found out that they are not that nice.

In the Netherlands it is not very appropriate to approach a woman that doesn't know you. It is okay the other way around: a woman approaching a man. You can easily come across as a creep. She may get anxious and wonder what that man wants from her.

If I was rejected, it wasn't just rejection. The atmosphere can get nasty as well. It happened a few times that she turned her friends against me. I had to avoid every friend she had, both male and female. They started blabbing about me behind my back, and became bullies. This also happened in other settings, not just in a romantic setting.

No, prostitution isn't legal where I live. In a way, having it outlawed has its perks. The prices at Nevada brothels (the one state where it's legal) are through the roof. Having it outlawed in my state keeps the prices down.

I'm on board with your idea to use taxpayer funds for sex. I don't think we should make this program available for just anyone; only those who meet certain criteria: Severe physical handicaps, as well as more invisible handicaps that prevent one from finding a partner (in my case, and Elliot's case, a crippling social phobia that results in being unable to ask anyone out).

You touch upon a brilliant point when you say this proposed program would utilize sex therapists. This program wouldn't just be about sex; it would be about therapy too. Anyone who doesn't have a severe physical handicap, yet has a hard time getting a partner, has deeper issues (thus the need for the therapy aspect).

To rebut the point I know some will make about sex not being a need: I know sex isn't a need in the same sense that food is. Nonetheless, sex can be pretty important, especially to a guy in his sexual prime (like Elliot Rodger)

On another post, you mentioned you're an Aussie.

A now defunct band from Brisbane that I listened to would wear a lot of American sports attire. From the sounds of it (if you also wear American sports attire), our sports attire must be common down in Oz for some reason.

As another poster mentioned, a man playing with himself isn't the same as partnered intercourse.

To build upon your vibrator comment, here's an interesting observation I've made: On various online communities, many a woman will say/insinuate they prefer a vibrator over a partner. On the other hand, most men will say they prefer a partner.

This might explain why, when these type of discussions happen, it's typically female posters who don't see why sex is so important.

What if one's mental health disorders are intertwined with why they're incapable of finding a partner?

Might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone, thus the idea to mix the sex program with therapy.

As I said before, I just don’t think it should be a priority. In my opinion, it wouldn’t be a good use of government resources. I’m saying this as someone who’s always had a high sex drive apart from my years spent in a sexually abusive relationship. I just never believed that it was someone else’s responsibility.

Which is all the more reason to support prostitution. Prostitutes provide an outlet where men can get sex without coercing an unwilling partner.

Prostitution is the world's oldest profession for a reason. No matter what anyone's opinion on prostitution is, prostitution isn't going anywhere.

I don't have a vibrator and I don't want one. Real penises don't vibrate so I don't think the sensation is remotely interesting or helpful as a replacement for sex.

Regardless, I don't think sex therapy is required by most people. We can figure things out for ourselves and in most cases, pay someone privately (e.g., sex workers). Otherwise all sorts of people will be acting out mental health disorders to get a w*k covered by tax payers.

Sometimes the thought of asking a woman out gives me flashbacks to high school and college (even though college was more than a decade ago, and I started high school nearly two decades ago).

Obviously I realize the humiliation of getting rejected isn't the same as getting physically abused by a partner. As I said on a previous post though, I'd rather die than go through even one more rejection-related humiliation. I refuse to ever put myself in the position to be humiliated like I was in high school or college ever again.