Don't trust ANYTHING women say.

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That's true, but I also know that I don't like it!

All your reasoning seems to be based on what people tell you. You can't believe everything people say, that's the bottom line. Life is not that simple.



Or maybe they just want some attention or excitement, and sex is the currency to buy it with.

So what have we learned? Women often have sex with guys they don't love, but that doesn't mean they love it.

Oh, the old gfcfd... is that why you sound so subdued?

Why are you positively frisky zee?

No, I only just started with the gfcfd recently. It's called 'emotional blunting', you should try it.

Don't play games back.

If its to be freinds then NO back footrubs either way.

Tell her its not appropriate to do these things.

Lay down the law either its a date or a friendship. While there may be things you do with a female friend that you wont hva e a guy friend do( only had one guy trim my hair as a favor) theres a line you dont cross.

Be aware that shes a woman snd yore a man things cant be the same. I had to share a bed with my buddy on a roadtrip. Hes a guy the house was crowded. Dont play with temptation and think its ok to sleep with a woman. I did ONCE but slwpt facing the other direction. Mt head where her feet were.

Avoid temptation. Set your boundries. Stick to them. Insist on respect and clarity.

You're really beating around the bush here zee. Just because You happen not to like sex Doesnt mean that most women dont like it!! I would like to point out to you that there are Certain psychiatric conditions-Specifically bipoar(manic depressive) disorder-which are not only more common that aspergers but are equally prevalent in men and women. I have know Several bipolar women and what I really noticed about these women is that they have VERY strong sex drives and are often shameless about wanting sex. There are a LOT more women out there who DO sleep around and have casual sex than you care to acknowledge.But you're right-I cant believe everything people say and that certainly includes YOU .
Besides, what evidence do you have that those women who told me such were lying? You're making the classic mistake of PROJECTING your own personal feelings onto other people you dont even know just because they're the same gender.

My bf and I don't have sex (yet;)) but I enjoy the touching etc.

Most girls love sex, we just broadcast it differently.

Very clever insinuation, but I've always been overly energetic. While I believe it's possible to transfer energy from one part of your being to another, it's not possible to try and enjoy things that don't interest you.

??? What is emotional blunting?
I'd die without dairy. Anyway, I think it makes you happier.

OK, Dinko, you've made yourself clear. I get where you're coming from. You're right, I can't prove anything, although my supporting evidence does come from people other than myself. (My roommate, for instance, who may well have been bipolar. She did have an eating disorder and I sometimes heard her crying in the middle of the night, I think she just didn't want to be alone.)
Your supportive evidence, meanwhile, is still projection. You say that these bipolar women are very active sexually, but that still doesn't mean they have strong sex drives. Like I said, you don't know why they are so active, whether they enjoy it, or whether they feel obligated to it in their desire for intimacy. Of course many people with disorders like bipolar dis. require more assurance in their daily lives than others, and I think you're conveniently ignoring that fact. Ie, people don't always do what they enjoy doing at the moment, that's a very Aspieish way of thinking. But often people have other things motivating them.

zee-WHY are you so cynical about bipolar women liking sex? From what you said ealier YOU have had a lot of problems enjoying sex. I honestly think for a woman to OPENLY admit to liking sex in american culture puts her at risk of being called a "slut" or a "nympho" and for guys who overhear to think that she's easy. Perhaps your roomate had hypomanic bipolar
(type II) because the 3 women Ive known with manic-depressive bipolar had serious problems with promiscuity when they were having a manic episode. I believe one of the causes of promiscuity is a Very Strong sex drive coupled with poor impulse control. NOT ALL WOMEN have the problems you have getting an orgasm, even when they f**k men. My ex said that most of the time she f****d guys she got an orgasm(which DID require her to ride on top of them and do the pushing). You automatically assume that ALL women DONT want sex and those who do it frequently have other motives and I think THAT is projection.You are the one who is making a Sweeping Generalization about women based on YOu and your ROOMATE.
Yes people dont always do what they enjoy at the moment but some people sure as hell DO. You say I am projecting but
what evidence do YOU have that these women Ive talked to were lying??? There are plenty of people out there who are extremely impuslve-even women-and will do things they enjoy WHENEVER they get the chance.

You cannot quit me so quickly
There's no hope in you for me
No corner you could squeeze me
But I got all the time for you, love

The Space Between
The tears we cry
Is the laughter keeps us coming back for more
The Space Between
The wicked lies we tell
And hope to keep safe from the pain

But will I hold you again?
These fickle, fuddled words confuse me
Like 'Will it rain today?'
Waste the hours with talking, talking
These twisted games we're playing

We're strange allies
With warring hearts
What wild-eyed beast you be
The Space Between
The wicked lies we tell
And hope to keep safe from the pain

Will I hold you again?
Will I hold...

Look at us spinning out in
The madness of a roller coaster
You know you went off like a devil
In a church in the middle of a crowded room
All we can do, my love
Is hope we don't take this ship down

The Space Between
Where you're smiling high
Is where you'll find me if I get to go
The Space Between
The bullets in our firefight
Is where I'll be hiding, waiting for you
The rain that falls
Splash in your heart
Ran like sadness down the window into...
The Space Between
Our wicked lies
Is where we hope to keep safe from pain

Take my hand
'Cause we're walking out of here
Oh, right out of here
Love is all we need here

The Space Between
What's wrong and right
Is where you'll find me hiding, waiting for you
The Space Between
Your heart and mine
Is the space we'll fill with time
The Space Between...

I'm done. Ciao.

Ciao Bella!

Zoink.

I-I-I-I- dont wanna look
like some kind of fool!
I dont wanna break, my heart over YOU
Im building a wall, everyday its gettin highter
this time I wont end up another Victim of Love!

BTW zee-one of the Key features of (manic-depressive)Bipolar disorder is Poor impulse control(ESPECIALLY during manic episodes).
So that makes the possibility that when manic bipolar women go around shagging lots of guys on a frequent basis they are acting on IMPULSE a Lot more likely than using sex as a form of currency to get attention. Now accusing ME of projecting is very much the pot calling the kettle black . You have a theory and when I present counterexample you make up some explanation which you have NO way of verifying just to fit your worldview. I guess you're the kind of person who HAS to be right ALL the time.....
Since I am actually in Contact with one of the people who I used as a counterexample and you are NOT why does that make your explanation for her equally as valid as mine? It DOESNT. I do know for a fact that she would Love to argue with you about this .

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ay me... every woman is different. The only generalization about women you can make is that you can't generalize about women...

Maybe there's other women out there for you. Since she wants to be friends...maybe she could fix you up... nah...strike that...but that's what I've felt like in the past...

Somewhere, someday, some woman is going to write a book about a relationship that parallels Dante's circles of hell, or even heaven, or both. I think it has literary possibilities. I think that for some women, there are many more graduations of relationship than friend, lover, and f$%k bunny...