Misogyny

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i think i understand what you mean, maybe. i think this isn't a good website for that sort of undertaking. he seemed to be essentially seeking positive support for a negative aspect of his life, whereas we would seek to help him to change that aspect. he wouldn't really find a non-judgemental source of support on the site as many women here would be targets for his hate.

perhaps an anger management group or men's support group IRL would be more along those lines, but i am not sure.

Those are your issues, not his.

i do not have a clue who you are talking to or what this post is in response to, as it makes no sense immediately following what i said.

You said that he wouldn't find support here because your issues with misogyny would interfere with helping him. You were projecting. There was no reason to believe he would target women here for his hate - that was your own issue bubbling up.

no, i didn't actually say that. intersting interpretation of what you read, though.

Did you mean that others here would have an irrational hatred of misogynists but not you?

i didn't say that either. you may want to go back and read what i actually wrote.

but for now, the conversation isn't going anywhere productive. so i'm out unless someone has something of import or interest to add.

You seem to be playing games.

If you were a cartoon robot you would explode from the logical inconsistency now.

Sorry you read it that way. No criticism intended and I make no suggestion you abandoned him. Your tone changed as the thread developed, and I inserted the qualifier 'initially, anyway' (I assume that's the word choice you're objecting to, and not the 'loving encouragement' bit?) because all I was talking about here was the lovingness.

I was going to get on my high horse about being called underhanded [sneaky, dishonest] but I will let it pass for once. Least said, soonest mended. Not very nice, though, hyperlexian.

I need a cold shower. See you later.

I'm with hyper all the way on this one - and very temperately put, if I may say so.

ok, well you seem to be trying to understand what i wrote but you are not quite there yet. i thought i should respond as you do seem to be making the effort, even if your responses are snide. i can reword what i am saying from a different angle and it may help you:


WrongPlanet is intended as a support board for both males and females. no male or female should feel like they are the target of generalised hate on the forum. if there were a support group for hate on the board, where members were giving each other positive reinforcement for hating a specific protected group (i.e. any gender or race or sexual orientation), then it would not be acceptable to the targeted members.

in all likelihood, it would probably not be accepted under the rules either, but of course it would depend on the specific wording and perceived intent. since the intent of this thread seemed to be for the OP to have advice and support of a helping nature, it was ok. if he was just seeking to form a club of public haters, that would not be ok.

in summary, if members want to get their hate on, they should do so elsewhere as members won't support it and neither will the rules.


(not at all sure what you're getting at with the other quote. i still don't hate anybody. i get the sense you would feel better if i played along, but my statements don't reflect any sort of hate, sorry)

Highplateau, you aren't saying that you accept all groups of people while actually hating misogynists. I dislike double standards.

hyperlexian: "if there were a support group for hate on the board, where members were giving each other positive reinforcement for hating a specific protected group"

It's only in your prejudiced mind that it would play out that way.

Last edited by fraac on 02 Jan 2012, 3:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

i was hurt by your comment because i did support the OP as well as i knew how. everyone's tone changed once the debate turned (including yours), so i felt like you were giving me a half-compliment/half-criticism, which wasn't really fair. i appreciate the positive half, however. i am sorry if you didn't like the way i communicated my feelings and i didn't mean harm by it.

i didn't ever say i hated misogynists, no.

You didn't need to, you gave yourself away. Ironically, OP hasn't given away his misogyny, he simply stated it. Nothing suggested that he would target women here for hatred. That was a conclusion that you leapt to. He appears to be able to discuss it quite rationally. He wanted support from likeminded people, which isn't an unreasonable wish.

I don't even slightly understand what you are saying to me here, fraac, sorry. I think this whole thread has become a bit jumbled and frayed in the last hour or so with people a bit too willing to jump down other people's throats (all parties here present included), and I'm going to extract myself for a while. If there is something I need to explain I am happy to do so, and would ask you to rephrase the bit before disliking double standards, of which I am pretty sure I am not guilty. But hey, let 'er rip! If you think I have double standards, I want to hear about it and set the record, or myself, straight.