Why is it girls have an easier time getting dates than guys?

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What culture or community are women expected to initiate relationships? Is there some obscure African tribe I haven't heard about? Has there ever been a time in human history where man chase woman wasn't the norm? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make saying there are other factors, so what if there is?

If you really have this little basic understanding of how culture can influence the behaviour of individuals then i don't know how to help you understand other than directing you to google or ask a teacher or something, because I really don't have the time or inclination to explain it to you.

What you said is a lot of nothing, so culture can influence behavior when did I say it couldn't? You said yourself biology plays a role so if it does at all then there is a part of our animal selves that is unchanging and innate which is the entire point, there are intangible differences. I do not believe we are blank slates, I find that view to be discredited. But yeah, thanks for teaching me a new buzzword.

You sound very toxic. I definitely have no interest in teaching you anything. You do have a lot to learn, you're just not going to learn it from me. Find someone else to berate with your ignorance.

Ignorance of what? Your dogma that you refuse to elaborate on? Why do you throw around buzzwords like "biological essentialism" like some grenade like that is suppose to mean anything to anyone then act offended when questioned on it? I like to debate, you obviously don't, so who is berating who? You replied to me.

Some people are not worth debating because they are so woefully misinformed or not informed at all about what they are trying to talk about, and their ignorance and prejudices make it impossible to make any headway with them and come to any real understanding. I thought perhaps you might be reasonable when I first replied; now I know otherwise and won't bother trying to have a discussion with you. There is no point--you've already decided that men are a certain way because nature and women are a certain way because nature and that's it. You don't want to learn, you're just another boring sexist male grasping on religiously to biological essentialism (look it up) who wants to tell women how "unequal" they are.

It seems you have yet to find a worthy opponent then, what authority are you by the way? I did look it up and it linked to a bunch of feminists blogs, am I missing something? What branch of science is this supposed to be? Please don't put words in my mouth by the way, don't strawman me. Perhaps you underestimate the amount of thought I've given this topic, when I say I don't believe in blank slates I think about the unfortunate story of David Reimer whom that theory was tested on. Do real transgender people exist innately or is gender a total social construct and product of their environment? I think it is pretty black and white, if biology plays a role regardless of other factors then at least an element of this "biological essentialism" you speak of has to exist. Only in your head does this mean that I a saying you're unequal, only in your head does this mean difference justifies persecution, I'm not saying any if these things. You seem rather thin skinned, I don't believe you ever intended to discuss anything in good faith.

Last edited by Jacoby on 02 Dec 2015, 1:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

Please you two. Stop arguing been my thread gets locked.

Tis true! I never once claimed life is fair, it's not. Keep in mind that many romantic relationships do not involve either party *asking out* the other. They begin as platonic friendships where one thing leads to another(follows a natural progression from platonic, to sexual, to romantic) and there really isn't any actual courtship formality like there is when people go out on a first date.


But I will say one thing: In the world of online dating, it IS more common for women to ask men out first or at the very least they send the first message. And for some particular reason it really works well for me.

In a nutshell, I think that for most Aspie men that friends first or online dating have better chances than formally hitting on/approaching female strangers but to each his own.

Can you show me some evidence that true hermaphroditis has ever occurred in humans? Or better yet, show me a CIS-man who has both a penis, testicles, and a functional uterus. There is already scientific evidence that transgendered people have abnormal neurobiology which explains why man MTF transsexuals have openly talked about how they feel like a "woman trapped in a man's body". Sex indeterminacy is caused by chromosomal abnormalities and many MTF transsexuals have such a condition called Klinefelter's syndrome(XXY). And yes I have met transsexuals who do not want to be viewed as genderfluid but prefer to be identified by the gender of their brain rather than their biological sex. Ain't it something that most people who call themselves "genderqueer" or "gender nonbinary" are actually bisexual cis-women(who use fashionable nonsense terms like "heteroflexible" or "sapiosexual")who want a customized gender so they can feel unique and speshul.

What is worse is that gender-bending experiments have actually been carried out IRL without the consent of the participants who end up with their lives ruined and suffer emotional damage so severe they take their own life. That's what happened to David Reimer(google him).

Oh wow, the story of David Reimer is incredibl but tragic.

Yet I'm still kind of peeved that a man without a penis or testicles got married at 25 when I didn't have my first girlfriend until 27

He did have both by then, though.

People like you who throw around the word sexist so often (this post, and your next two posts are like 'this is sexist', 'that is sexist', 'that is toxic'), are the true sexist ones. And like I said, the type of women who ask men out are the rare outliers, you can't disprove the facts with your personal anecdotes.

Here's another thing men may not take into consideration because they've never heard women say this. I think it's a conversation we have amongst ourselves.

I hear women expressing the feeling that there are so many women for men to choose from that there's not much we can do to compete. It's like men are kids in a candy shop and can have anything they want, so the woman who is looking for someone to settle down with is going to have a hard time finding someone who is willing.

This isn't necessarily my personal view, but it's a view I have heard expressed often by people trying to explain how the world of dating works, but it's only served to knock my confidence more.

Some women feel they can't compete and feel like if the man they like hasn't tried to get to know them better then it means he's not interested in her and prefers someone else.

I agree wholeheartedly. While I don't condone sexism and agree with it being a taboo, I don't like it when people apply it to anything they just don't like. It's like a witch-hunt. Used to dismiss anything without actual argument.

As a guy, I can say that I actually like being the pursuer, rather than the perused. Being the pursuer works to my advantage as it offers me more choice.

When I started this thread, it wasn't my intention to say that asking out should only be done by girls, that would simply create a gender reversed version of the same problem. I like asking girls out, I didn't like it when that one girl reacted as though I'd broken some taboo just by asking.

Of course she can say no but I don't like her acting like I was forcing myself on her just by asking. I asked her out, not forced her out, yet apparently she can't tell the difference.

Of course I agree that "friends first" is usually best when it comes to the success and quality of relationships.

Approaching strangers in the street is really not my cup of tea, either.

People, actually, usually meet through "friends." Some guy friend might be friends with some woman. Friend introduces woman. Woman takes a fancy to the man so introduced (sometimes after a period of friendship). Romance ensues.

I think that is the way it usually works, actually. Even in these cases, it's the guy who usually makes the first "moves."