16 Dec 2016, 11:27 pm
RetroGamer87 wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Interesting that this thread is full of people claiming to know what feminists think and say, and yet when any actual feminists speak up and say "actually I know what I think and say, and it's not anything like what you're saying I think and say" you ignore us.
But I'm the sexist one for thinking women should have choices.
Please tell me some more about my own ideas and opinions, apparently as a woman and a feminist I need to be told how to think to not be sexist against women. The unintentional irony of this thread is epic.
I'm sorry but feminists are individualsBut I'm the sexist one for thinking women should have choices.
Please tell me some more about my own ideas and opinions, apparently as a woman and a feminist I need to be told how to think to not be sexist against women. The unintentional irony of this thread is epic.
You can't speak for all of them because they all have different views
But it doesn't seem to matter how many individual feminists say to you "I don't think that way", you still say "feminists think like x". Do you see me telling you all about how Australians really see things and what their opinions are? Of course not, because why would I presume to do that? Yet here you are doing just that to feminists. How many real, living, breathing feminists to you need to hear from before you stop tilting at that straw one you seem so fond of?
16 Dec 2016, 11:38 pm
17 Dec 2016, 12:24 am
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17 Dec 2016, 1:42 am
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Can't build muscle at the moment due to recovering from a broken wrist.
This statement isn't entirely true. Just because you can't do pushups or lift weights with your arms doesn't mean you can't do anything. Do squats, leg exercises, yoga, go for a walk/run/jog, bike or swim if possible etc. There's plenty you can do to burn calories and workout muscles w/o the use of one wrist. Then follow it up with the ideal diet, plenty of water, and proper sleep. You'll burn fat & build muscle.
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17 Dec 2016, 3:05 am
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Alliekit wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
xDominiel wrote:
Look, literally all I was trying to say was that women have traditionally been in the role of "the protected"
So women are just supposed to sit around and be protected? Anyone who thinks that has never seen the lengths a strong woman will go to in order to protect herself or her children.
Ironically, feminists tend to agree with the misogynists that women are incapable of protecting themselves.
Is feminism just another form of misogyny? Another way of controlling women instead of letting them be free to make their own choices?
Can we class theses as third wave or extreme. Personally I believe (along with other pro choice feminists) a woman has the right to do whatever she wants. If she wants to be protected then good for her, if she doesn't then good for her aswell.
You're the best, if not one of the only kind of good Feminist's.
Do you believe a woman should have every right to choose to be a traditional, submissive housewife of her own free will and to have a patriarchal non-abusive household with her husband if this is what they both want?
If so you are truly a 1% Feminist in my humble opinion.
Yes if that's what she enjoys then it's her choice. I'm also pro choice for men aswell and believe they should be able to fufil less traditional roles without judgement if that's what they choose.
I enjoy cooking for my fiance and being wifey but at the same time I'm ambitious and want a career.
Being a feminist shouldn't mean taking away idividal choice and there are plenty of us that feel that way we are just less vocal then the idiots who scream "all sex is rape". Yes some basket case actually said this. Its phrases like these used by extreme feminists which are truly sexist because it suggests women cannot enjoy sex and also demeans the wonderful men in oir life's making them feel like s**t.
I cannot remember her name but she is some gamer extreme feminist who really annoys me. I agree I want more female character options when playing games (which has improved massively) but I love sexy armor in fact I think male options should have acess to sexy armor aswell to make it even
17 Dec 2016, 3:12 am
Outrider wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why is it ok and people fighting for women to be accepted to have different body types,but not men 
There has been some movement for acceptance of different types of males aswell but unfortunately less discussed. Maybe its because men don't feel the need to discuss it (similar to not discussing male suicide rates which are the the highest). Either way it should be talked about moreThere are some men who just accept that they are overweight. These men don't need a male fat acceptance movement because they have self-acceptance and they don't need approval from everyone else.
Not always true I have a few obese male friends who would benefit greatly from self acceptance. After all self acceptance helps to loose weight
It definitely isn't just overweight and obese men who has body image problems.
It's true for skinny men who feel the pressure to be muscular, etc.
Personally I am a medium/average size for my age and I feel very jealous of guys skinnier or more muscular than me.
I may have more muscle on my body than skinny guys, but they have lower body fats and visible abs which girls my age are attracted to, and more muscular guys are also considered attractive for obvious reasons.
I hate it sometimes, my body is completely average but not out of shape.
I see lots of women say they like skinny guys, lots say they like muscular, lots say they like 'heavier set' who might be a bit chubby/overweight but also have a decent amount of muscle.
But I never see women say they like my type.
I'm not skinny enough for the girls into skinny guys, I'm not big enough for the ones who want a heavy built man, and I'm not muscular for the ones who want muscular guys.
My body is very similar to this guys but slimmer torso as I weigh slightly less. When I googled "male 5'9'' 165lbs/75kg" and saw this picture, straight away I knew 'Yep. Looks familiar and looks about right.'
Can't build muscle at the moment due to recovering from a broken wrist.
The guy in the picture looks good in my opinion
However I agree with you completely men of all shapes and sizes have acceptance issues and could benefit from body acceptance.
My fiance is naturally skinny with a rather extreme metabolism. He hates it and really wants to put on muscle and bulk up but no matter how much he eats he struggles to put on weight. I am guilty of joking about being jealous of his metabolism and then felt bad because he told me how much he hated it.
17 Dec 2016, 4:50 am
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17 Dec 2016, 6:05 am
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I cannot remember her name but she is some gamer extreme feminist who really annoys me. I agree I want more female character options when playing games (which has improved massively) but I love sexy armor in fact I think male options should have acess to sexy armor aswell to make it even
Do you mean Anita Sarkeesian? She annoys me so much. Why does she want to change the face of gaming when she doesn't play games. She claims there aren't diverse female characters in games. If she had actually played games she'd know there are.
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17 Dec 2016, 6:07 am
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My fiance is naturally skinny with a rather extreme metabolism. He hates it and really wants to put on muscle and bulk up but no matter how much he eats he struggles to put on weight. I am guilty of joking about being jealous of his metabolism and then felt bad because he told me how much he hated it.
I'm jealous too. I bet he gets to eat whatever he wants. I can't. I have to turn down unhealthy food that I like. Sometimes I have to skip meals and go hungry when my weight gets too high. If I was like him I could eat as much ice cream as I wanted. I never get to have ice cream
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17 Dec 2016, 8:35 am
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
I cannot remember her name but she is some gamer extreme feminist who really annoys me. I agree I want more female character options when playing games (which has improved massively) but I love sexy armor in fact I think male options should have acess to sexy armor aswell to make it even
Do you mean Anita Sarkeesian? She annoys me so much. Why does she want to change the face of gaming when she doesn't play games. She claims there aren't diverse female characters in games. If she had actually played games she'd know there are. She's such an obvious fraud, I can't believe there are people who take her seriously while she does things like attempt to get a good view of Batman's ass to prove some kind of butt bias.
Last I heard she's moving on from gaming to try and get creative with history instead, and considering how much resistance she got from gamers of all people I don't think actual historians will give her much less of a hard time.
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17 Dec 2016, 2:16 pm
Outrider wrote:
Yeah yeah, I know.
My legs are at the size where if they were any bigger they'd be oversized for my body and it'd look wrong.
My legs are at the size where if they were any bigger they'd be oversized for my body and it'd look wrong.
Good you're still doing what you can!
Legs: IMO legs wouldn't be out of proportion for long. Most people tend to underwork their legs, myself included. My upper body is much leaner and stronger than my legs. My legs are still tree trunks, just not super lean and strong like my chest/arms having done more than 60,000 pushups in the last 18 months. If I were in your shoes I'd work my legs and not worry about being disproportionate because it is infinitely easier to work your upper body and catch up and surpass your legs once your wrist is healed up.
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17 Dec 2016, 5:38 pm
Alliekit wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why is it ok and people fighting for women to be accepted to have different body types,but not men
There has been some movement for acceptance of different types of males aswell but unfortunately less discussed. Maybe its because men don't feel the need to discuss it (similar to not discussing male suicide rates which are the the highest). Either way it should be talked about more
Not enough even here there's few guys bash in fat people like me and no one jumps in to defend but they jump to defend fat women.
I have a doctor tell me I couldn't be 200lbs and be healthy but the guys here tell me I'm lying and they can so therefore everyone 6' and above can be too. Cause guys all have the same body build unlike women apparently
17 Dec 2016, 5:39 pm
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why is it ok and people fighting for women to be accepted to have different body types,but not men
There has been some movement for acceptance of different types of males aswell but unfortunately less discussed. Maybe its because men don't feel the need to discuss it (similar to not discussing male suicide rates which are the the highest). Either way it should be talked about moreThere are some men who just accept that they are overweight. These men don't need a male fat acceptance movement because they have self-acceptance and they don't need approval from everyone else.
Not all men are that way I'm more emotional
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