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31 May 2007, 2:23 pm

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Ignorance -- feel the power!



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31 May 2007, 2:23 pm

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You really would have a relationship with a woman with a penis, Soph?
if so, than you are more open minded than I am :D

I wouldn't have sex with her though.


Wow. Sorry, that just surprises me.

I don't see why. There are some straight men who would say the same thing. I don't know whether I would be attracted to a transexual woman or not, I never have before. But I wouldn't completely rule it out, because it is possible that one day I would.


But again, you haven't completely ruled out straight men either, as you've said. So who really knows who you'll end up with?


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31 May 2007, 2:24 pm

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History recorded God's dealings or lack of thereof? O-kay... I didn't know we could see God. I also didn't know that written human history recorded every single fact that ever occured on Earth. That's amazing you'd think that it did.

History shows us the attitudes of the time towards women and sex.

Obvious!



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31 May 2007, 2:25 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
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You really would have a relationship with a woman with a penis, Soph?
if so, than you are more open minded than I am :D

I wouldn't have sex with her though.


Wow. Sorry, that just surprises me.

I don't see why. There are some straight men who would say the same thing. I don't know whether I would be attracted to a transexual woman or not, I never have before. But I wouldn't completely rule it out, because it is possible that one day I would.


But again, you haven't completely ruled out straight men, either, as you've said. So who really knows who you'll end up with?

I haven't completely ruled them out because I would never say that I'd NEVER be in a relationship with a man. I don't know that for a fact, just like I don't KNOW that a god doesn't exist. It's about 99% unlikely I'll ever be with a man though. I don't like men therefore I doubt I ever will.



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31 May 2007, 2:28 pm

Sopho wrote:
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Yes, you don't need to know much about the Bible to know about attitudes towards women at the time...


It helps the less you know, in retaining your current opinions. :lol: Ignorance -- feel the power!

Wow I can't believe a Christian is talking to me about ignorance!
How am I ignorant? Ignorant of what?

The Bible.
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I feel the more I know, the more I agree with myself. :wink:

One way to find out! :wink:


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31 May 2007, 2:29 pm

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Yes, you don't need to know much about the Bible to know about attitudes towards women at the time...


It helps the less you know, in retaining your current opinions. :lol: Ignorance -- feel the power!

Wow I can't believe a Christian is talking to me about ignorance!
How am I ignorant? Ignorant of what?

The Bible.

I haven't read Mein Kampf. Does that mean I can't say I disagree with or have an opinion on national socialism?



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31 May 2007, 2:29 pm

Sopho: Why don't you like men? The majority suck but some are okay.


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31 May 2007, 2:31 pm

greenblue wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
History recorded God's dealings or lack of thereof? O-kay... I didn't know we could see God. I also didn't know that written human history recorded every single fact that ever occured on Earth. That's amazing you'd think that it did.

History shows us the attitudes of the time towards women and sex.

Obvious!


That's a true statement, but you're cleverly avoiding addressing Christian (biblical) attitudes toward women in the first century. It was very civil and egalitarian.


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31 May 2007, 2:31 pm

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Sopho: Why don't you like men? The majority suck but some are okay.

Sorry. I should have clarified that. I didn't mean I don't like men as people. I mean I'm not attracted to them. I don't like men in the same way that a straight mn doesn't like men. I like plenty of men as friends though.



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31 May 2007, 2:32 pm

Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
greenblue wrote:
You really would have a relationship with a woman with a penis, Soph?
if so, than you are more open minded than I am :D

I wouldn't have sex with her though.


Wow. Sorry, that just surprises me.

I don't see why. There are some straight men who would say the same thing. I don't know whether I would be attracted to a transexual woman or not, I never have before. But I wouldn't completely rule it out, because it is possible that one day I would.


But again, you haven't completely ruled out straight men, either, as you've said. So who really knows who you'll end up with?

I haven't completely ruled them out because I would never say that I'd NEVER be in a relationship with a man. I don't know that for a fact, just like I don't KNOW that a god doesn't exist. It's about 99% unlikely I'll ever be with a man though. I don't like men therefore I doubt I ever will.


You've also said you think you might never find a girlfriend. But you're hanging on to that seeming unlikelihood. All this discussion would have a bit more relavence if/when you have a girlfriend.


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31 May 2007, 2:33 pm

Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
History recorded God's dealings or lack of thereof? O-kay... I didn't know we could see God. I also didn't know that written human history recorded every single fact that ever occured on Earth. That's amazing you'd think that it did.

History shows us the attitudes of the time towards women and sex.

Obvious!


That's a true statement, but you're cleverly avoiding addressing Christian (biblical) attitudes toward women in the first century. It was very civil and egalitarian.


If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. -- Deuteronomy
Aye, very civil.
Ignorance :roll:



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31 May 2007, 2:33 pm

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History recorded God's dealings or lack of thereof? O-kay... I didn't know we could see God. I also didn't know that written human history recorded every single fact that ever occured on Earth. That's amazing you'd think that it did.

History recorded HUMAN dealings about many gods, and the one God which is the most famous. No one can't see God, not christians, not agnostics, not atheists, not animals, not little children, no one.

No, human history didn't recorded every single fact on earth, but it recorded things that tells us how people where at the time, how where their attitudes about moral values in their society, and by analyzing it, the Bible was based in those attitudes. Not good for a time when people were ignorants because of lack of knowledge we have today.



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31 May 2007, 2:34 pm

Ragtime wrote:
You've also said you think you might never find a girlfriend. But you're hanging on to that seeming unlikelihood. All this discussion would have a bit more relavence if/when you have a girlfriend.

BS. Even if I did have a girlfriend, I wouldn't plan on getting married unless it was something she really wanted. Therefore it makes no difference if I have a girlfriend or not. I want the RIGHT to marry her if I did.



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31 May 2007, 2:38 pm

Kosmonaut wrote:
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. -- Deuteronomy
Aye, very civil.
Ignorance :roll:

Women don't have rights, you see? the Bible says so.

God permitted that because he is a guy, all women should accept that or they will pay to consequences. :twisted:



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31 May 2007, 2:39 pm

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You've also said you think you might never find a girlfriend. But you're hanging on to that seeming unlikelihood. All this discussion would have a bit more relavence if/when you have a girlfriend.


doesn't hurt to plan ahead


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31 May 2007, 2:39 pm

Kosmonaut wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
History recorded God's dealings or lack of thereof? O-kay... I didn't know we could see God. I also didn't know that written human history recorded every single fact that ever occured on Earth. That's amazing you'd think that it did.

History shows us the attitudes of the time towards women and sex.

Obvious!


That's a true statement, but you're cleverly avoiding addressing Christian (biblical) attitudes toward women in the first century. It was very civil and egalitarian.


If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. -- Deuteronomy
Aye, very civil.
Ignorance :roll:


(Everyone knows Kosmonaut got the century wrong, right?)


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