Is looking for autistic women a realistic option?

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09 Mar 2022, 4:40 am

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This is a 14 page topic about autistic women as an option, but suddenly it seems like a problem when I ask why men would want to date autistic women in the first place.


It’s because of the accusatory tone of your questions before that makes it a problem. You were obviously implying that men in this thread don’t view women as individuals but as validation objects, and just want to date for the sake of dating… etc bla bla. If your question was simply asking them why they want to date autistic women then that would be very fair, but then you added accusative implications to the rest of your posts.
Enough of that armchair psychoanalysis and projection behind your screen, you don’t know any of us.

For me personally, It is not a realistic option to wanting to date only an autistic (I am in relationship anyway with a NT lady, so no thank you) because of the unlikeness of meeting them, our condition is rare.
Some men here may wish to date an autistic woman because she is more likely to be more understanding of their autism, which is a good reason if you think about it. It’s really that simple, there’s no sinister anti-women Incel conspiracy going on here.



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09 Mar 2022, 8:38 am

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I've always been confident in my academic ability, but that has relevance to my romantic life. A masters degree has nothing to with whether or not women find me sexually attractive.

Actually, for some women, your academic/intellectual ability has strong relevance to the question of whether they would be interested in a longterm relationship with you, even if it's not relevant to sexual attraction per se.

For example, I happen to be a very intellectually-oriented person who enjoys deep, intellectually-stimulating conversation. It would be hard for me to feel close to anyone who doesn't have a similar mindset.


And just where are these women, exactly?

In two decades, I have never once met a woman who wanted a romantic relationship with me because of my academic abilities. Sure, there have been many who enjoyed having intellectually stimulating conversations with me, but they all friend zoned me.



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09 Mar 2022, 8:41 am

Lizzie_Duck wrote:
This is a 14 page topic about autistic women as an option, but suddenly it seems like a problem when I ask why men would want to date autistic women in the first place.


I responded to your questions, but you do not seem to have noticed.



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09 Mar 2022, 11:02 am

Be realistic and stay in your general looks league and age range.

If you're a 40 year old overweight and unkempt looking man, would you really have a shot with a 21 year old 10/10? The answer is no.

BUT you might have a shot with a 35 year old average looking plain Jane.



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09 Mar 2022, 11:04 am

it is also a strong likelyhood that somebody like me who is a plain john still cannot attract a plain jane who is only interested in more than a plain john. :idea: by and large people will settle only to a point, past which they generally decide to take their ball and go home to the cats/videogames.



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09 Mar 2022, 11:18 am

For many people, they're going to have to settle eventually. Everybody wants to date the really hot person with a great personality, or other attributes that are considered highly attractive. And for some people, they really do find their "dream person" but this isn't the case for many people. For a lot of people, they're eventually going to have to be realistic about what they can actually attract based on their own traits and attributes.

Everybody wants that 10/10 but realistically, if you're a 40 year old and overweight 5/10 making 32k a year, why would they want to go out with you? And who knows, maybe you'll get lucky and find a smokin hot wife with a golden personality, but guess what? There's only so many of them to go around and if they're really highly desirable, chances are they're already taken anyways.


So essential dating advice is be realistic.



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09 Mar 2022, 11:21 am

that is why sex dolls are a growth industry. for both men and women.



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09 Mar 2022, 11:33 am

you leave inflatable ingrid out of this!! !



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09 Mar 2022, 11:37 am

silicone sally/tpa tisha



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09 Mar 2022, 11:59 am

dorkseid wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
I've always been confident in my academic ability, but that has relevance to my romantic life. A masters degree has nothing to with whether or not women find me sexually attractive.

Actually, for some women, your academic/intellectual ability has strong relevance to the question of whether they would be interested in a longterm relationship with you, even if it's not relevant to sexual attraction per se.

For example, I happen to be a very intellectually-oriented person who enjoys deep, intellectually-stimulating conversation. It would be hard for me to feel close to anyone who doesn't have a similar mindset.


And just where are these women, exactly?

In two decades, I have never once met a woman who wanted a romantic relationship with me because of my academic abilities. Sure, there have been many who enjoyed having intellectually stimulating conversations with me, but they all friend zoned me.


I am going to call massive BS on this. I can guarantee that many women would have had their interest piqued by your academic abilities and declared ability to have stimulating conversations. The issue is that other aspects of you will have acted as a barrier to going further or staying in the friend zone. I recommend you pause on that, because there's a subtle learning for you there... That leaves quite a few areas to consider, but only you can do that. If there are aspects of you that are credible barriers and that you can improve then you might want to do that. Easy wins as examples are hygiene, weight, clothing. As others have said, if you look like Michael Moore then you're physically at a 1-2 so you probably want to do something about that, unless you are in the (fortunate?) position of finding 1-2 females physically attractive. If you also dress like him and stink then you are really in trouble, and you need to realise this. We are all different but for many of us the harder things to address are social skills and physical manifestations of your disability. But you can work on these to varying degrees, especially social skills. I've already provided advice on these areas so I'm not going to repeat myself. They worked for me so may work for others.



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09 Mar 2022, 2:57 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
Be realistic and stay in your general looks league and age range.

If you're a 40 year old overweight and unkempt looking man, would you really have a shot with a 21 year old 10/10? The answer is no.

BUT you might have a shot with a 35 year old average looking plain Jane.


The problem is that I missed out on dating young women when I was young. Women my age have had all the kids they're going to, and those kids are already in high school or college. I'll have missed out on knowing them when they were little. Additionally, a woman who's been a parent half her life is so far removed from where I am in life for us to have anything in common.

Aside from being overweight, I think I'm okay looked. Everyone still mistakes me for being 30. And women have complimented me on my looks, especially online where all they see of me is pictures. But every time I meet someone she realizes that I'm some kind of weirdo and loses all interest.

I met a woman at work years ago. We hung out and did a lot of thing together. And really liked her. She was overweight, a single mother, and two years older than me. She was what you would call a "plain Jane", but she was highly attractive to me. But of course she only saw me as a friend.

Someone's wife or girlfriend might seem like a plain Jane to you, but they could share a strong bond and enjoy each other and find one another highly attractive. While another woman that's in the same "attractiveness bracket" by conventional standards is not attractive to him at all. It all comes down to having the right chemistry. This is something many people don't seem to understand in these discussions.

When I was younger my standards were perfectly reasonable and would have been completely realistic for an average NT.

But those same standards are no longer reasonable now because of my age. Hence why its too late. The only options that would be realistic for me at this point in my life are only the ones I don't want.

And by the way, I already tried settling for an ugly women that I liked nothing about. And she turned out to be an abusive sociopath who targeted me specifically for my vulnerability. Such a woman always was the only realistic option for a wretched desirable like me.



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09 Mar 2022, 4:02 pm

^ There's an expression... something about lemons.



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09 Mar 2022, 5:16 pm

What if I don't like lemonade?



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09 Mar 2022, 6:44 pm

dorkseid wrote:
The only options that would be realistic for me at this point in my life are only the ones I don't want.

If that's true, it seems like there's nothing we can say or do to help you.

What would you like us to do?



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09 Mar 2022, 6:49 pm

dorkseid wrote:
What if I don't like lemonade?

There's another expression... "Smoke 'em if you got 'em"



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09 Mar 2022, 7:02 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
The only options that would be realistic for me at this point in my life are only the ones I don't want.

If that's true, it seems like there's nothing we can say or do to help you.

What would you like us to do?


There's nothing you can do. Nothing anyone can do. Its already too late. That's what I've been seen all this time.

There's just nothing left for me. Which is why I'm going to kill myself.