The importance of looks

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13 Feb 2023, 9:30 am

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"Male" and "female" do not have absolute boundaries. There's a LOT of room for males and females to offset gender stereotypes and gender roles. Just slightly deviating from gender norms and stereotypes does not render somebody "nonbinary."

Just because a man might be into "feminine" things----doesn't mean that the person is automatically "nonbinary." Just like a woman who enjoys construction is not "nonbinary" just because she's into "men's things."

I'm "wholly" a man----but I don't fit all the male stereotypes. I'm biologically a man, and am male-gendered----even if I don't go around being macho all the time, like TV cowboys are.

Yes, sex may be biologically binary (in terms of sex chromosome) but gender is like a spectrum indeed; like Autism. It is a lot more complicated than just male and female identities.
What constitutes as nonbinary is … complicated I guess; but the profile field says « gender », not « sex », so if one feels non-binary then shouldn’t this person puts it as non-binary? And be respected of this choice?

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13 Feb 2023, 9:34 am

You said that the point of this thread is to stir up controversy. That’s announcing that trolling was your goal.

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13 Feb 2023, 9:35 am

I definitely have no objection, per se, to you identifying as nonbinary if you feel nonbinary.

If people feel nonbinary, who am I to contradict them?

If you were in bed with a woman, would you not want her to consider you a man? If you don't care what she considers you in bed, THEN you're nonbinary.

But I do feel there are too many people who feel they have to "act" like a man or a woman in stereotypical ways in order to consider themselves fully "men and women."

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13 Feb 2023, 9:37 am

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You said that the point of this thread is to stir up controversy. That’s announcing that trolling was your goal.

You are reading too much into this, I just love tense debates, nothing more.

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13 Feb 2023, 9:38 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

Nah, I don't really care.

Also let's not confuse gender with sexual orientation.

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13 Feb 2023, 9:44 am

The same goes if you care if a man in bed with you considers you a man. Or if a nonbinary person in bed with you considers you a man.

Sexual orientation doesn't matter.

I know I wouldn't want a woman in bed with me to consider me as something other than a man. And I wouldn't want to be in bed with a man, period.

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13 Feb 2023, 9:47 am

I would want to be considered a person in bed. The rest doesn’t really matter to me.

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13 Feb 2023, 9:49 am

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I would want to be considered a person in bed. The rest doesn’t really matter to me.

Bingo!

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13 Feb 2023, 9:50 am

I would want to be in bed with a person who has feminine, rather than masculine or neutral, characteristics. Not extreme...but evident.

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13 Feb 2023, 9:53 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

I would want to be in bed with a person who has feminine, rather than masculine or neutral, characteristics. Not extreme...but evident.

Yes, you can be a man attracted to 'feminine' characteristics, and you also be non-binary attracted to "feminine" characteristics too, the two are not mutually exclusive.

There's a combination of everything.

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13 Feb 2023, 9:54 am

Of course you can....no doubt.

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13 Feb 2023, 10:11 am

What I care most in bed is to satisfy my partner's needs and make her happy, regardless how she likes to consider me. My partner does identify as a woman tho.

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13 Feb 2023, 10:20 am

Yeah....me too....but I wouldn't want my partner to consider me "not a man." I wouldn't care too much if she considered me a "person," more than a "man."

The ultimate goal, of course, is consummate satisfaction for my partner.

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13 Feb 2023, 10:40 am

When I grew facial stubble back in 2017 my friends described me as “good looking”.

Not anymore though

I wonder can someone’s looks change a lot in a 6 year period from late 20s-early 30s?

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13 Feb 2023, 10:55 am

I like being called a lady, woman, girl, etc.

Actually I don't like older women calling me a girl because it sounds patronising but I like men calling me a girl because it sounds cute.

But I have more things in my life to worry about than being called an inoffensive word for inoffensive intentions.

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13 Feb 2023, 10:58 am

Joe90 wrote:

Do you think attractiveness goes downhill between late 20s-30s? I did one study that the peak of attractiveness is between 14-25.

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