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Zooey Deschanel without makeup:

Gotta say, I would disagree. The higher degree you have on your own, the more you dont need to look at the degree of your partner. So I am into feminism and that stuff, means everybody shall be the way he prefers to be. But when its about partnership, you also have to think about stuff like building a house, buying kitchen gears, .... simply money. We dont live anymore in the 19th century, where money was automatic a male-topic and caring for the home was automatic a female-topic, but at least one of both has to focus on earning the money you need as partners. If you are a woman and earn 600 Dollar at Mc Donalds for room cleaning, then dating a school janitor is a problem, not because of him being a school janitor, but because none of both earning enough for a family, so dating doesnt make much sense, when anyway how much sympathy there is, never will be able to afford a family. While if you earn yourself enough, the less you need to care for how much your partner earns. I think its also important, how much experiences the involved have. The less experience, the more often the are only seeking for external preferences, making their partner to a kind of status symbol. If you are still searching for a status symbol as partner, you wont be happy with a janitor. If you are already searching for a real matching life partner, the external preferences become less and less important.

About these league stuff: There are no general leagues, simply because everyone creates his own leagues. Whats a 10 in someones league, can be a complete zero in another ones league. As example men that are much into externals are not my kind. Simply because such guys often see much importance in that external stuff, that I mostly dont care for, and I simply dont get along with that type of people and if they are additionaly simply dumb I often have been blamed by such guys, for not caring myself for external stuff. So if you run around with a suit, a breitling and an expensive sport car, the more I know we will never fit as partners, because a partner that cares for such nonsense would often want to force me to care as well for that stuff, often have many friends that care for such nonsense and so on. There was a show some years ago "The model and the freak." with a guy that looked pretty normal for me, jeans, funny T-shirt, little beard, little belly, playing warhammer-tabletops and so on. Thats the kind of boy I meet among my friends, so I feel comforted by that type of guy, thats normally the kind of people that treat me friendly, and that I can share jokes about similar topics and so on. Then they went to the hairdresser with him, gave him new cloths, new eyeglasses, ... in the end he looked like a hipster, that I have bad memories about. So they often share themselves, to feel strong and then try to bully others, thats simply my personal experiences with hipsters. So I dislike them. Looking like a hipster turns you automatic into a badass in my league system, while looking like a little tabletop nerd raises you, simply because of me having very positive experiences with that kind of guys and feeling comfortable around such guys.

So there are definitely leagues, but there are definitely no general leagues. Everyone simply carry his own league system with him.

I'm not gonna dignify meems with any more responses, in fact I didn't even look at her reply to my post...

I reiterate that leagues are just socially ascribed nonsense. There are no real objective criteria to measure a persons dating worth (although many people would like to claim there are.)

Everyone here is arguing subjective criteria which is quite a bit different. When push comes to shove, this is what fosters attraction, not leagues.

*Sigh* geeky geeko with a stubborn straightforward geeky mind.

The leagues thing is not a 1+1=2 thing, it doesn't have a definite formula because it's more complicated than that. You have to be more..... well...less idealist and naive (= innocent, I don't mean it not in bad way) and be more aware of your surrounding and a better observant to get what the leagues thing is.



Attraction and leagues are related.

Even Okcupid is aware of the (looks-based) leagues thing, if you are let's say for example very low-rated in looks (rated by other members I guess) the very-high rated won't show up in your search results.

And POF profiles are divided into (income-based) leagues.

I've read once an article by a real-egalitarian feminist about pof complaining how its system prevents women to see men with lower income in their search results.

Now do you think that such huge businesses are doing this just because they're evil immoral bastards or they're doing this based on extensive research on their female and male members' behaviors in order to boost customer sanctification and hence profitability?

I know what the leagues thing is and once again reiterate my stubborn defiance against it..........

I'm too Ubermensch to buy into it.



I'm idealist?

And that nonsense is good how? Imagine if we had to disclose our neurological condition on those sites. How many "leagues" would we drop automatically?

The very concept is socially constructed BS. Hell, most of the dating system is, but rather than do something about it or defy it, a lot of people here seem to just accept it or even argue in favor of it.

If I actually believed in leagues, I sure as hell wouldn't have bothered trying for the girl I'm into now.

The very concept is socially constructed BS. Hell, most of the dating system is, but rather than do something about it or defy it, a lot of people here seem to just accept it or even argue in favor of it.

A lot of things are socially constructed but that doesn't make them unreal, hell, AS is probably AS now due to social construction while it's probably just a neurological variation.

Yeah, all you have to do is google the image from the People Magazine issue where they did a spread showing celebrities without makeup, she looks nothing like that without makeup, even in an airbrushed photo

I know what the leagues thing is and once again reiterate my stubborn defiance against it..........

I'm too Ubermensch to buy into it.



I'm idealist?