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28 Oct 2017, 6:15 pm

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When weight lifting you meet people don't you. That sounds like a place to meet friends. Maybe it is possible for you to go to a laundry mat. That is a place where you can meet people. Even your job is a place you encounter people, fellow employees and customers. And are you the only person on the bus? If you see a cute girl doing something like playing a game on her phone that you also play you could use that as a way to start a conversation. say something like, "I see your playing whatsit. I love that game. What's your highest score? Develop a positive attitude and others will be drawn to you which will only reinforce your positiveness.

As I and other men here have been told by women. Don’t bother women out and about they don’t want to be bothered by men. Only clubs and bars are ok to approach women.

Also currently I’m just doing cardio to lose weight. But everyone including me has headphones in at the gym. Bus too by the way. People are very anti social now adays.

No one at work likes me except one or two people. I don’t work on the floor like everyone else my department is up stairs out of the way and away from everyone else they only come up when forced to give us breaks and they hate spending 15 mins up there. It’s probably the worse department in the store to work in. It has high turn over


I don’t want to be approached in clubs and bars. You can approach women anywhere, but you just have to think about whether it’s appropriate or sensible.

Why do you bother paying for the gym? Go for a walk. It’s faster and free. This is what I mean about intelligent spending of time and money.


That’s not how other women on wrong planet feel they say the last thing they want is to be talked to by a strange guy while they’re shopping or taking the bus or walking around.

Because I get super super super anxious even thinking about going for a walk. $10 a month seems rather reasonable to get past that. Also gym has bathrooms and water access and don’t get hot or cold stays just right.



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28 Oct 2017, 6:17 pm

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No laundry lines?

Bonkers.

So glad I don't live in America. Weird culture. :P

This is your typical average New Zealand back yard. https://bebetoocool.files.wordpress.com ... ealand.jpg

Rich people still have washing lines, they just look nicer.


I use to live in a neighborhood that had old 1940s houses moved from a military base some of their back yards had poles like that sticking out of the ground I wondered what they were. Do you still use 1950s washing machines too :p

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d5/fa/e2/d5fa ... chines.jpg
One of the neighbors had one of those in their garage.


Laundry lines aren’t 1950s, they’re economical and sensible, something that a lot of Americans don’t seem to be.


They’d be super impractical here. It rains almost 24/7. We aren’t called the rainy state for no reason. Lot of people don’t have back yards or even yards in America. Also we are status based society here so not having a washing and dryer something considered everyone could have makes you a loser. People who use laundry mats are extremely looked down upon.



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28 Oct 2017, 6:41 pm

Even in an apartment I would not use a dryer. Whatever, each to their own.

I probably wouldn’t marry someone who insisted on using a dryer as it’s such a massive waste of money, and it’s lazy.



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28 Oct 2017, 6:42 pm

Hale_bopp....

Honestly no one cares who you wouldn't marry.



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28 Oct 2017, 6:44 pm

Here in NYC, it's quite impractical to have a laundry line from December to March. The weather is almost always cold and damp. It rains and snows frequently.



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28 Oct 2017, 6:45 pm

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Hale_bopp....

Honestly no one cares who you wouldn't marry.


So, I’m still going to post it. Make me not. No one probably cares that people can’t get a girlfriend either.



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28 Oct 2017, 6:46 pm

Also you people have nuclear power plants; so you don't give a sh!t about power consumption....



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28 Oct 2017, 6:49 pm

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Also you people have nuclear power plants; so you don't give a sh!t about power consumption....


America does. I’m not sure about Australia. New Zealand doesn’t.



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28 Oct 2017, 11:40 pm

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Can’t really make the dryer dry faster. Takes like 30 mi
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Can’t really make the dryer dry faster. Takes like 30 mins to wash in washer and two hours to dry them then repeat. People spend hours at laundry mats and those machines are a lot better and efficient. We have cheap 90s machines. Not the fancy stuff they have now. Does your dryer dry a full washer load in under 30 mins?
I would think it’s possible but why then have hour settings on dryers.


I never use dryers, they're a waste of energy and the clothes smell musty. I hang the wet clothes outside on a nice day and leave them there, or on a clothes horse inside on a wet day and leave them there. Probably 15-20 minutes work all up for 3 loads.

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I can’t handle over 5 hour shifts. I had to fight them and get doctor to get what I have. Heck the nt guy And lady hardly handle it and they don’t habe any disabilities. Most others quit. The one guy talks about quitting i dont know what we’ll do if he does.


All low paying jobs are usually unpleasant. When I first started working, I got paid $7 an hour before tax and the job was awful. I think you should try to ask at places with a more pleasant environment. Asking at places works well, going for advertised jobs does not. The second store I asked in a few years ago gave me a job. Worth a try.

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What’s your job and how many new hobbies do you get into weekly? Sounds incredibly exhausting to me.


I am a business analyst, and it's emotionally an intellectually fast paced and exhausting. But it's good for me. Otherwise I'd mope at home and feel sorry for myself. Usually I try to dedicate a few hours every day to hobbies, but some nights after a really bad day I go to bed at 8pm. I picked up a new hobby last week - Metal detecting, and have been going to beaches most evenings to try to find coins, which is fun.

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I have changed and done and am doing stuff, but cause it’s not the stuff you do or stuff as much as you’d want me to you say I don’t do anything o.O


I'm sure you have. But it's clearly not working for you as you continue to moan about it. With better planning and more efficiency, you can free up a lot of time.

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You know I could just go back to not working and never leaving my room like I was 3 years ago. I wish I could find someone here who gets what it’s like where I live.


Been there. I don't think you would want to go back to that. I don't blame you.

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Therapist suggested I try s thing where state pays someone to hang out with me. But thru only take people the state sends them so I have to call state. But I worry people will find it weird. And sucks they’d only hang out for money and probably really hate me :(


I wouldn't suggest that. I would rather be a hermit than have someone around simply because I'd paid them. What a dumb idea. You deserve better than that.

ns to wash in washer and two hours to dry them then repeat. People spend hours at laundry mats and those machines are a lot better and efficient. We have cheap 90s machines. Not the fancy stuff they have now. Does your dryer dry a full washer load in under 30 mins?
I would think it’s possible but why then have hour settings on dryers.


I never use dryers, they're a waste of energy and the clothes smell musty. I hang the wet clothes outside on a nice day and leave them there, or on a clothes horse inside on a wet day and leave them there. Probably 15-20 minutes work all up for 3 loads.

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I can’t handle over 5 hour shifts. I had to fight them and get doctor to get what I have. Heck the nt guy And lady hardly handle it and they don’t habe any disabilities. Most others quit. The one guy talks about quitting i dont know what we’ll do if he does.


All low paying jobs are usually unpleasant. When I first started working, I got paid $7 an hour before tax and the job was awful. I think you should try to ask at places with a more pleasant environment. Asking at places works well, going for advertised jobs does not. The second store I asked in a few years ago gave me a job. Worth a try.

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What’s your job and how many new hobbies do you get into weekly? Sounds incredibly exhausting to me.


I am a business analyst, and it's emotionally an intellectually fast paced and exhausting. But it's good for me. Otherwise I'd mope at home and feel sorry for myself. Usually I try to dedicate a few hours every day to hobbies, but some nights after a really bad day I go to bed at 8pm. I picked up a new hobby last week - Metal detecting, and have been going to beaches most evenings to try to find coins, which is fun.

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I have changed and done and am doing stuff, but cause it’s not the stuff you do or stuff as much as you’d want me to you say I don’t do anything o.O


I'm sure you have. But it's clearly not working for you as you continue to moan about it. With better planning and more efficiency, you can free up a lot of time.

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You know I could just go back to not working and never leaving my room like I was 3 years ago. I wish I could find someone here who gets what it’s like where I live.


Been there. I don't think you would want to go back to that. I don't blame you.

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Therapist suggested I try s thing where state pays someone to hang out with me. But thru only take people the state sends them so I have to call state. But I worry people will find it weird. And sucks they’d only hang out for money and probably really hate me :(


I wouldn't suggest that. I would rather be a hermit than have someone around simply because I'd paid them. What a dumb idea. You deserve better than that.


Most modern ones are energy efficient. So you wait days for your clothes to dry on line? Though I guess drying times would depend on the humidity. We tried drying stuff in the house once by hanging but it never dried.
We use fabric softener they scent along with scented soap. So the dried clothes smell good.

Metal detecting is expensive. Here there s lack that they dry up very year or two. That’s the best spot to go. People drop all kinds of stuff. Have you watched the guys who metal detect at battlefields from the past. This one guys finds dog tags and try’s to return them to family. Brings some peace to them. It’s interesting and sad. You see them find rifles, helmets, buttons and know that’s someone’s last resting place.

Read about this other guy that goes caving in Japan islands to find lost soldiers remains and return them to their families. He most finds Japanese who died in their tunnels.

I use to collect money. I kinda collect zippo lighters. I have some replicas of 1935,1937,1941 zippos. I want to get a black crackle 1941 replica. They are replicas of the ones issues to Troops the original were made of steel due to war time and so they coated them in the crackle stuff to keep from rusting.

I moan cause nothing will make a difference even you have said poor men aren’t seen as dateable by a lot of women. I had a car for years and it didn’t help. This job was suppose to help but it didn’t. They just say it’s not a real job.

Sometimes I want to. But I had more friends back then. I don’t have them anymore so it’d be worse now.

I guess the idea is to get autistic people out of the house and socializing so they don’t feel lonely.



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29 Oct 2017, 12:13 am

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Most modern ones are energy efficient. So you wait days for your clothes to dry on line? Though I guess drying times would depend on the humidity. We tried drying stuff in the house once by hanging but it never dried.
We use fabric softener they scent along with scented soap. So the dried clothes smell good.


They take between a couple of hours to a couple of days to dry. Fine by me, It's just a set and forget thing if it's inside, and outside it doesn't take that long, just leave it there and check it later in the day.

I hung my washing out this morning, now it's all folded and put away.

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I moan cause nothing will make a difference even you have said poor men aren’t seen as dateable by a lot of women. I had a car for years and it didn’t help. This job was suppose to help but it didn’t. They just say it’s not a real job.

Sometimes I want to. But I had more friends back then. I don’t have them anymore so it’d be worse now.

I guess the idea is to get autistic people out of the house and socializing so they don’t feel lonely.


I really doubt for you it's the job or the car. It's your self confidence. I would just focus as getting to know people as people, not potential dates and just getting out there more. Meeting people.



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29 Oct 2017, 1:32 am

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Most modern ones are energy efficient. So you wait days for your clothes to dry on line? Though I guess drying times would depend on the humidity. We tried drying stuff in the house once by hanging but it never dried.
We use fabric softener they scent along with scented soap. So the dried clothes smell good.


They take between a couple of hours to a couple of days to dry. Fine by me, It's just a set and forget thing if it's inside, and outside it doesn't take that long, just leave it there and check it later in the day.

I hung my washing out this morning, now it's all folded and put away.

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I moan cause nothing will make a difference even you have said poor men aren’t seen as dateable by a lot of women. I had a car for years and it didn’t help. This job was suppose to help but it didn’t. They just say it’s not a real job.

Sometimes I want to. But I had more friends back then. I don’t have them anymore so it’d be worse now.

I guess the idea is to get autistic people out of the house and socializing so they don’t feel lonely.


I really doubt for you it's the job or the car. It's your self confidence. I would just focus as getting to know people as people, not potential dates and just getting out there more. Meeting people.


Days? I have approximately two weeks of underwear and socks. If it took days to dry them I’d go days without socks and underwear. To each their own. I’ll keep the dryer.

I can’t message them because of my job and lack of car.
If a job says don’t apply unless you have a 4 year degree. Is it your lack of a 4 year degree of your confidence that is preventing you? It’s the degree they need people with degrees, no amount of confidence will bypas that need.
I’m not going message women who outright say not to unless I have a good job and car. That’s just going be a waste of my time as they will either outright ignore me or be upset once they find out I don’t have them and block me.

If they went in date with me they might find me confident the other women who dated me did.
Most the women at work give glares, so I don’t dare try to talk to them, seems they don’t think I’m worthy of their time or human decency.

Lady at work might like me. She’s single and has been coming up more often latel. She talked to me while she looked around my department for 20-30mins. She’s really religious the guy who is nice to me, told me she’s great but something I need to onow is she’d want me to go to her church after a month of dating, if we dated.

I dont know how to make a next step. I complimented her shirt and asked about her life. She lives with roommates and is hoping to go camping with them and church people. She wants to start kiyacing soon. She’s been up a few times but hasn’t bought anything yet.



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I have approximately 2 weeks of clothes. I do my washing once a week. No issues.

You know the solution. If you think people expect you to have a car then get a car if it’s that important. Didn’t you just say they wouldn’t date you when you did have a car? If you think women only want you if you have a car and you refuse to get one or change your life so you can get one then no one here can help you. What do you expect from people here?

I can’t message all the women who rejected you and call them shallow pieces of s**t. Nor can I buy you a car. I want to help, but don’t see how.



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29 Oct 2017, 9:25 am

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When weight lifting you meet people don't you. That sounds like a place to meet friends. Maybe it is possible for you to go to a laundry mat. That is a place where you can meet people. Even your job is a place you encounter people, fellow employees and customers. And are you the only person on the bus? If you see a cute girl doing something like playing a game on her phone that you also play you could use that as a way to start a conversation. say something like, "I see your playing whatsit. I love that game. What's your highest score? Develop a positive attitude and others will be drawn to you which will only reinforce your positiveness.

As I and other men here have been told by women. Don’t bother women out and about they don’t want to be bothered by men. Only clubs and bars are ok to approach women.

Also currently I’m just doing cardio to lose weight. But everyone including me has headphones in at the gym. Bus too by the way. People are very anti social now adays.

No one at work likes me except one or two people. I don’t work on the floor like everyone else my department is up stairs out of the way and away from everyone else they only come up when forced to give us breaks and they hate spending 15 mins up there. It’s probably the worse department in the store to work in. It has high turn over


I don’t want to be approached in clubs and bars. You can approach women anywhere, but you just have to think about whether it’s appropriate or sensible.

Why do you bother paying for the gym? Go for a walk. It’s faster and free. This is what I mean about intelligent spending of time and money.


It is seldom inappropriate to say "Hi." to someone. If you are getting on the bus at the same time as a girl you can say, "good morning." Even if they have a head phone on. You can make eye contact and smile. People are not attracted to people who feel sorry for themselves. A positive attitude draws people to you. Be positive by deciding that you are positive. I did. I had all kinds of reasons to feel Poor me, boo hoo. I chose instead to be happy and positive. That is a good first step.


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29 Oct 2017, 9:34 am

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Also you people have nuclear power plants; so you don't give a sh!t about power consumption....


America does. I’m not sure about Australia. New Zealand doesn’t.



Yeah, I was addressing to Americans, I was completing kraftie's sentence, why would they use lines if their nation is that advanced in producing power?

Honestly, laundry lines add ugliness to crowded cities too.



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29 Oct 2017, 1:40 pm

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I have approximately 2 weeks of clothes. I do my washing once a week. No issues.

You know the solution. If you think people expect you to have a car then get a car if it’s that important. Didn’t you just say they wouldn’t date you when you did have a car? If you think women only want you if you have a car and you refuse to get one or change your life so you can get one then no one here can help you. What do you expect from people here?

I can’t message all the women who rejected you and call them shallow pieces of s**t. Nor can I buy you a car. I want to help, but don’t see how.

It’s The Whole package. Car, job, home, looks. Having just one or two won’t help.
Imagine a girl says she’ll only date guys who have hbo, max and STARZ, but the guy only has starz. He doesn’t meet her requirement. So when I had s car I still didn’t have a job or place.

My life is unchangeable ok. I just want to vent and be comforted. There no fixing it there’s no making it bette,r this world is far far far too superficial. Humans will probably die out due to low population growth in few hundred years at this rate. Car, job, House ro your own are such meaningless stuff in the grand scheme of life and love. Many women have guys with such things, and the gu usually either abuses them, cheats on them, or looses interest. People really only need love and companionship. A guy who’ll be loyal to them and stick with them through and through, but media and companies have gotten generations to lose track of what really matters and think a guy who can’t take you to Europe every year or buy you a $5000 tv is worthless.

I’m disabled. So see my situation the same as a low fucnting aspie would advice would you give them? You wouldn’t tell them to find s job cause you know they can’t, yiu wouldn’t tell them to get a job cause you know they can’t. Not everyone can hold down a 9-5 full time job. I can’t thats the sad reality I struggled but I’ve finally accepted that’s the reality. Full time burns me out really quickly causing a meltdown and losing said job. The only way I’m even able to keep this job is because I disabled and so they made accommodations for me otherwise by nt standards I’d been fired over a year ago for failing to meet company policy and requirements.

Probably the only job I could do is factory work where it’s not stressful, it’s repetitive and requires no human contact. But such jobs are done by machines and overseas workers. They don’t exist in the USA anymore.



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29 Oct 2017, 5:35 pm

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I have approximately 2 weeks of clothes. I do my washing once a week. No issues.

You know the solution. If you think people expect you to have a car then get a car if it’s that important. Didn’t you just say they wouldn’t date you when you did have a car? If you think women only want you if you have a car and you refuse to get one or change your life so you can get one then no one here can help you. What do you expect from people here?

I can’t message all the women who rejected you and call them shallow pieces of s**t. Nor can I buy you a car. I want to help, but don’t see how.

It’s The Whole package. Car, job, home, looks. Having just one or two won’t help.
Imagine a girl says she’ll only date guys who have hbo, max and STARZ, but the guy only has starz. He doesn’t meet her requirement. So when I had s car I still didn’t have a job or place.

My life is unchangeable ok. I just want to vent and be comforted. There no fixing it there’s no making it bette,r this world is far far far too superficial. Humans will probably die out due to low population growth in few hundred years at this rate. Car, job, House ro your own are such meaningless stuff in the grand scheme of life and love. Many women have guys with such things, and the gu usually either abuses them, cheats on them, or looses interest. People really only need love and companionship. A guy who’ll be loyal to them and stick with them through and through, but media and companies have gotten generations to lose track of what really matters and think a guy who can’t take you to Europe every year or buy you a $5000 tv is worthless.

I’m disabled. So see my situation the same as a low fucnting aspie would advice would you give them? You wouldn’t tell them to find s job cause you know they can’t, yiu wouldn’t tell them to get a job cause you know they can’t. Not everyone can hold down a 9-5 full time job. I can’t thats the sad reality I struggled but I’ve finally accepted that’s the reality. Full time burns me out really quickly causing a meltdown and losing said job. The only way I’m even able to keep this job is because I disabled and so they made accommodations for me otherwise by nt standards I’d been fired over a year ago for failing to meet company policy and requirements.

Probably the only job I could do is factory work where it’s not stressful, it’s repetitive and requires no human contact. But such jobs are done by machines and overseas workers. They don’t exist in the USA anymore.


There are women out there who see through the superficial stuff. They are hard to find, but if you pursue your interest you'll find others with the same interest. If you join organizations of people with Asperger's or disability you also find others like you. I'm in People first and a girl in that group likes me. She has cerebral palsy. She isn't a playboy model. The only issue is she's too young. I went on a date with a woman involved with autism. It didn't go well, but that happens. I have been going to play's and concerts with a Widow. This is just a friendship but we really like each other's company.


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