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12 Oct 2018, 4:58 pm

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I believe that the list expresses the truth about women in general and to a greater or lesser degree. The alternative would imply that women only need to troll Skid Row for eligible men to marry, and that just ain't gonna happen!

I also believe that it's the fault of men if they are not attractive to women, AND that they need to improve in those areas so women would be attracted to them.

Deal with it.

“Fault” of men sounds a bit harsh. I’d say, maybe “responsibility.” I say that because a lot seems to hinge on the level of ignorance of a given man in question. That’s something that can be cured.

What annoys me about these men is an apparent preference for their circumstances. I’d prefer to be wrong on this point, but I don’t think I am. It’s almost as though they know how easy it is to get attention by crying about it and ignoring good advice, while getting attention from potential love interests is too much work. I’d rather not be used as a surrogate girlfriend and wish guys like that wouldn’t waste my time.

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12 Oct 2018, 5:08 pm

AngelRho wrote:

Fnord wrote:

I believe that the list expresses the truth about women in general and to a greater or lesser degree. The alternative would imply that women only need to troll Skid Row for eligible men to marry, and that just ain't gonna happen! I also believe that it's the fault of men if they are not attractive to women, AND that they need to improve in those areas so women would be attracted to them. Deal with it.

I'll grant you that "Fault" may be a bit harsh, but when you realize that such people seem to choose to keep themselves ignorant (by ignoring the advice they're given), then "Fault" may not be too harsh of a word.

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What annoys me about these men is an apparent preference for their circumstances. I’d prefer to be wrong on this point, but I don’t think I am. It’s almost as though they know how easy it is to get attention by crying about it and ignoring good advice, while getting attention from potential love interests is too much work. I’d rather not be used as a surrogate girlfriend and wish guys like that wouldn’t waste my time.

I've long suspected the very same thing -- that it's easier and more comfortable to acquire attention by complaining about a situation than it is to put forth the effort to improve that situation. I thought I was the only one who thinks this way, so thanks!

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12 Oct 2018, 5:12 pm

Fnord wrote:

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Fnord wrote:

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And what's worse is that Bea has just finished her WP break, o boy, the duo-bullies are back!

Oh boy. I can't wait for another person to come along and project the incel mindset onto me while ignoring everything I say. Yay.

I'm sure that a smart boy like you can figure out a practical solution to your problem.

Feel free to acknowledge what I posted earlier about my life experience any time you wish.

How does "Never" work for you? It works for me. Have a nice day!

Oh look, there's your oh-so-helpful "Get up, stand up, grow up, and take charge of your life" thing I was misinterpreting. Oh wait, no it's not, because that's a complete lie and you know it. I hope you have a charming day spreading your helpfulness to all the smart little boys and girls who so desperately need it.

If you need a helping hand, look at the ends of your arms. There you will find TWO helping hands, just waiting to make your life better!

You should be on TED Talks with such inspirational advice.

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12 Oct 2018, 6:03 pm

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I’m with Fnord and XFilesGeek - if a woman (which is the category of “people” the OP was aimed at) tells you something, why would you believe that they are lieing? Believe what you read here!

PS SaveFerris, your translation card fits Canadians along with the British.

Quite a few women in this forum have said what they thought they wanted years ago when young and what they realized what they really wanted were different, so are we to assume they are lying ? Or do we accept it’s possible some people including women may not not what they want? It’s also said that until youved had relationships you can’t know what you want it don’t want(agitate told to single guys by women here in this forum)

I thought I wanted to join the military, i now realize that’s been horrible for me. Was I lying when I said I wanted it? No I just didn’t realize I didn’t actually want it.
Guys are also told they don’t really want a relationship they just want sex, whys it ok to call guys liars?

I don’t think the op was saying they lying just that they may not want what they think they want and not know it yet.
Another example I always wanted to drink untile I actually tried alcohol and realized I don’t want to drink.

Some men have a very annoying tendency to accuse women of lying and/or "not knowing what they want" whenever women speak to the topic of what they find attractive in a man. When I first got to WP, whenever this subject would come up, some male posters would always shout down any woman who contributed and claim all women only wanted "rich jerks."

Additionally, these male posters would assert they knew how women thought better than us women did. Amusingly, these were usually men who couldn't get dates if their life depended on it. The point is, don't assume somebody is being less than truthful if their personal truths don't align with your biases.

I’ve seen same from women to men.
That’s not what I’m saying though and I can only relay what women in my area say they want or require in a man.
Doesn’t mean I think anyone here is lying, I think some change what they say though but i dont think anyone in this thread has.

I think your last part would equally apply to me as well as women you’re talking about. My personal experiences and truths are often called lies here.
Which is then also calling the women I talk about Liars. Worth pointing out the women here often tell me those women(I’m my area) probably don’t want what they’d saying they want. So I think a lot of people think their personal truth is the only truth.
Probably causes most of the fights here.

This is very well put Sly, I think it’s a bit unfair that as a society we have all been conditioned that the male is the primary bread winner. And then men sit back and criticise women for wanting a good provider which is nearly what all of my single friends say they want a professional male who makes at least as much money as they do.
But what they NEED and would make for much healthier relationship is having a person who can show them how to have autonomy esp in the area of finance as then the woman can come to the man and thro choice as opposed to thinking of themselves as either a trophy or a piece of the background furniture.

How I did not realise this till my mid 30s I am not sure.

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13 Oct 2018, 12:51 am

What are people talking about here?

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13 Oct 2018, 7:54 am

XFilesGeek wrote:

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You say you want to help people, but your "advice" here almost always devolves into you sitting on a high-horse belittling everyone else, which would suggest you're just looking for an excuse to stroke your own ego rather than actually help anyone.

If you want to interpret what is essentially "Get up, stand up, grow up, and take charge of your life" as being on a high horse, then have fun with that.

^ This.

You are a very biased mod btw; you are too blind to see how of an a** Fnord been all this time; maybe because his targets are men?

Seriously XFg, if you are unable to fair between the sexes here; then just resign from moderation.

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13 Oct 2018, 8:50 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

If you want to interpret what is essentially "Get up, stand up, grow up, and take charge of your life" as being on a high horse, then have fun with that.

^ This.

I'd agree with his stance even if he was speaking to a woman. It just so happens that most of the incessant complainers tend to be men.

And I realize you've got a bug up your butt when it comes to my moderation, but, until Alex decides otherwise, I'm here to stay, so strap in and get comfortable.

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13 Oct 2018, 9:32 am

XFilesGeek wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

If you want to interpret what is essentially "Get up, stand up, grow up, and take charge of your life" as being on a high horse, then have fun with that.

^ This.

You seem to be obsessed with butts.

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13 Oct 2018, 10:45 am

XFilesGeek wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

If you want to interpret what is essentially "Get up, stand up, grow up, and take charge of your life" as being on a high horse, then have fun with that.

^ This.

I support you, XFG, EVEN IF sometimes I’m the one who gets out of line.

For the mod-haters out there, they’re allowed to have their own biased opinions, same as all of us. I’ve seen XFG go from expressing views similar to myself and Fnord to taking down WPers who start heated arguments with the very guys we complain about.

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13 Oct 2018, 10:54 am

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... I'm here to stay, so strap in and get comfortable.

... as we may encounter turbulence on this flight!

:lol:

Sorry! Couldn't resist...

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13 Oct 2018, 4:42 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

If you want to interpret what is essentially "Get up, stand up, grow up, and take charge of your life" as being on a high horse, then have fun with that.

^ This.

You seem to be obsessed with butts.

That's because I deal with a lot of buttheads.

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13 Oct 2018, 4:45 pm

AngelRho wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

XFilesGeek wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Sabreclaw wrote:

If you want to interpret what is essentially "Get up, stand up, grow up, and take charge of your life" as being on a high horse, then have fun with that.

^ This.

Thanks.

Anyone familiar with my posting history knows I've taken down misogynists and misandrists alike.

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13 Oct 2018, 6:25 pm

So ... has this thread gone so far off-track that it unlikely to ever return to its original subject?

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13 Oct 2018, 7:05 pm

Mission complete.

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13 Oct 2018, 9:51 pm

I don’t know what it about, it’s confusing.

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13 Oct 2018, 9:53 pm

When they are Michael C. Hall, when they make eye contact, and when they use my name while talking to me. Most people avoid using one another's names in conversation, but it makes me melt just a little bit.

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