Why its too late for me

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Depression, social anxiety, or PTSD can be treated; but autism itself cannot. Lacking the ability to understand a process neurotypical social rules is a symptom of autism itself, and nothing can be done about it.

Fake news!

I've been doing it and sharing about it here for the last ~10 years. Literally cannot tell me it isn't possible for I've been doing it.

You think it's by mere coincidence and wishful thinking that I've gone from extreme ASD struggles, spinning my wheels, too bogged down with AS, ADHD, OCD/tourettes symptoms, sky high anxiety & audio sensitivity, extreme executive dysfunction, crippling anxiety and chronic fatigue symptoms, dyspraxia to the point of having difficulty tying my own shoes (amongst other comborbidities I'm sure I'm forgetting) to being productive, learning a trade, building a solid social life and friend network, attending massive parties - and working at several as well ????

No. This is not coincidental. I figured out the root cause of my symptoms and how to treat them naturally via diet/supplements and other means and have been sharing about what has brought me such life changing success ever since. It's been a while since I first shared all that and there have been medical studies published that back up everything I've learned and shared right down to the chemical sensitivities.

I also shared about a 12month old infant that was destined to grow up with ASD, but, thanks to my intervention, for less than $100 worth of food/supplements, that path was avoided and he's now a happy healthy normal neurotypical 10 year old boy - definitely the greatest achievement of my life to date.

Actually treating and controlling symptoms results in these social things coming more naturally and intuitively vs. trying to force yourself to learn and do them. The things I've learned and done seem to "turn on," the social circuitry and get it actually working for me. I highly suspect that it will do the same for many others who put in the work to try it - perhaps not everyone; but my estimate remains at 70% based on the medical study fact that 70% of us share the same chemical sensitivity to certain food acids. This is not nonsense - it's science, it's medicine.

No, I'm not a medical doctor and have never claimed to be. But I am on the spectrum and Know what's worked for me - hence sharing it here with others for the last decade. Check back in in another decade - never know - I might be a medical doctor.. depends if I can make the grade and get accepted. But thanks to the effectiveness of my own treatment protocol, financial constraints to attending university again long term are slowly being eroded as this calendar year I will be back up over six figures in the black - well on my way to being able to afford to take part time classes and then eventually make the shift to full time school with part time work - but that bit of my story is for another thread topic entirely. The point of this post is that what you just stated to be fact.. I Know is not.

Also calling total BS on this final sentence. That attitude fits with the other negative and head in sand type sentiments you have posted on this forum recently but that doesn't make it correct. Loads can be done about it; these strategies and practices will simply have varying degrees of success depending on your exact type of autism, comorbidities and so on, but also how smart and dedicated you are in going about it.

Symptoms of ADHD, OCD, Tourette's Syndrome, audio sensitivity, executive dysfunction, anxiety, chronic fatigue, and dyspraxia are what you treated; not autism itself. Basic social skills, like how to greet people or when to say "please" or "thank you" can be taught. Understanding the more complex nuances of non-verbal communication can improve with age and experience, but only to a degree. These are skills that neurotypicals do instinctively without actually needing to be taught, but will always elude most aspies. No matter what else we achieve in life, we will not be able to function on the level of neurotypicals in this area.

People with traumatic spinal injuries can regain some functionality with therapy, but it is not possible for them to ever function on the level of an uninjured person. The same if true for us with nonverbal social skills.



I do not know if it is possible to prevent infants from developing autism.

But I do take some issue with this. ASD in and of itself is not and never was what's wrong with me. It is an inseparable part of who I am. The problem has always been how my family, peers, and society in general have always mistreated me because of their inability to understand me, and the psychological ramifications of that lifetime of mistreatment. While learning and developing social skills is important, ASD is not something that I need be "cured" of.

I often use sexual orientation as an analogy to help people understand this. Imagine if someone was bragging about how he "intervened" with an infant that was "destined" to grow up to be gay. How this child is now a "happy healthy normal straight 10-year-old boy", and how preventing someone from being gay is the "greatest achievement of his life". How would that make you feel?



Abilities vary widely between different individuals on the spectrum; and it could just be the case that, once you successfully treated all the other problems you mentioned, your natural aptitude in nonverbal communication is just higher than mine.



Good luck.

For a while, I was trying to get into nursing. The obstacle I encountered was that I did not possess the undergrad pre-requisites I needed to get into grad school for nursing. I had already exhausted my financial aid eligibility for undergrad school. And working as a nurse aide, while highly physically and mentally exhausting, did not pay enough for me to afford classes out of pocket.

But then I got interested in education, and found out that I am eligible to enroll in masters sped program.

But none of that has had any bearing on my dating ability.

Basically... I've said it before to you and I'll say it again. I believe in you.

Thank you.

But unless you're 28-year-old lady or an extremely generous employer, your belief in me doesn't help me in a any real way.

How about a 39-year-old lady.

Would you refuse her?

I don't know.

As I said before: I missed out on dating younger women when I was younger. I don't want to end up having never been with anyone under 35-40. By that age, women typically have had all the kids they're going to, and those kids are already in high school or college. I don't want to miss out on having little kids in me. Besides it just freaks me out.

Anyway, its all academic since I'm no longer capable of "performing".

Don't tell me what I have and have not done. What I do treats my ASD symptoms, not just comorbidities. I can read text books just as well as anyone else and can also tell the effects/results of medicine & the changes in my symptoms.

Apples to oranges. As a gay man, I know that sexual orientation, like gender, is innate. As someone on the spectrum who successfully treats his symptoms and Knows A cause of ASD that typically begins in infancy, I Know that that baby boy was exhibiting classic signs of ASD in infants and that we were able to completely reverse it and he sprang back to NT life over a matter of several weeks and is now normally developed. ASD, or at least this form of it, is an illness that's able to averted or treated. I know because I've done both.

Thanks! Won't take much luck, though. Mostly just hard work, discipline, focus, determination etc.

I think it's a bit more complicated than that, because otherwise I think we'd already be seeing a cure. Not saying what works for you doesn't work, but I, for instance, have no gastrointestinal problems so it seems odd that that would be the route to alleviate my symptoms (I think your method had something to do with treating such problems).

For what it's worth the range of people getting an ASD diagnosis these days is so wide I'm starting to feel the diagnosis itself is becoming rather blunt and unhelpful, especially when conducting research. Much as it's already quite established with schizophrenia that we're probably looking at several "schizophrenias" lumped together under one diagnosis. But I digress.

Maybe you don't have gastrointestinal issues or food chemical sensitivities. It's the vast majority on the spectrum that do, not 100% of us. Further, maybe you do have abnormal digestive functions and don't realize it - I didn't, because I assumed that what was normal for me was in fact normal until I learned otherwise. So if anyone had asked me prior if I had any intestinal issues my response would have been an honest "No."

I'm not an expert, but my understanding is that there is no consensus on what causes homosexuality. I've heard hypothses ranging from it being caused by a viral infection to it being an evolutionary adaptation that allows one to act as a "wingman" to help secure quality mates for their siblings.

Likewise, there is no consensus on what causes autism. Whether its purely genetic or triggered by environmental factors is unclear. Perhaps severity of symptoms is influenced by environmental factors during infancy, but the presence of autism is still genetically innate.

Point is there's no evidence that ASD is any less innate than sexual orientation.

I maintain that psychologically comorbidities like depression and anxiety can be illuminated if society stops treating autistic children as defective undesirables.

Okaaaay, first off:

Sexual orientation & gender are innate; most likely determined by hormone levels in the womb during fetal development.

Autism isn't necessarily innate. I've proven it by treating my ASD symptoms for the last decade. There may also be multiple causes of ASD, or rather, there likely are - and that's why it's such a large spectrum and many have GI issues and chemical sensitivities and some do not.

I'm sure you're familiar with the fact that autism causes anti-social behaviours. Why should society accept unacceptable behaviours? That will never happen. There are reasons they are unacceptable and those who exhibit them are considered undesirable. The entire world isn't going to change to all of the sudden accept behaviours that are considered unacceptable. It's those on the spectrum that need to work hard at being able to control our behaviours within acceptable limits - whether that's via practice or therapies or some form of dietary/medicinal treatment, by whatever means, that work is up to us.

Replace the word "autism" in that paragraph with "homosexuality", and you'll find it sounds exactly like the kind of bigoted garbage you'd expect to hear from right wing fanatics and conversion therapy advocates. You know exactly what kind of people label homosexuality as "unacceptable behavior."

And no, autism does not cause anti-social behavior; sociopathy and psychopathy do. That's why the DSM classifies them, but not ASD, under the diagnostic criteria for anti-social personality disorder. Stimming and sensory overstimulation are not anti-social behaviors. Psychological comorbidities like depression, anxiety, and PTSD are thSe results of society treating us like abominations our entire lives, not ASD itself.

I reiterate: you treated your comorbidities, not your ASD. It is not possible to "cure" ASD, nor should it be; autism is not a disease.

Apples to oranges.

Sexual orientation different from the heteronormative is not the same as Behaviours different from those that are considered socially acceptable. Literally by definition, why should people accept unacceptable behaviour? It's unacceptable for a reason. No one's going to change the entire world to accept behaviour from people that's considered rude or otherwise unacceptable. That's simply the way it is.

Once again, do not tell me what I have done and not done. I Know what I've achieved and what the results are. I have a very active social & sex life, career, and the quantifiable results of my efforts accumulating in my bank accounts.

AS, in my case and what I believe to be Most others - 70%+, is in fact an disease and is able to be treated. If caught early enough, it's able to be avoided, too - again, I know because I've done it/observed the results.

You can choose to believe whatever the hell you want, but don't tell me what I have or haven't done, know or don't know.