Most Aspie men are in over their heads with dating.
fs wrote:
I did look on this forum for a pinned thread with forum policies, but I didn't see one. If the moderators here have a forum policy, I will be glad to adhere to it.
The rules that apply to ALL our sub-forums are available in a sticky at the top of the General Autism discussion board. Read it.
The lovely gray ones that are most likely to catch some of your statements is the prohibition against posting "offensive" material, and against posts designed to incite. The interpretation of those TOS can vary a bit by the sub forum, as a result of the expectations that members have developed for that sub forum. When you seem to be offending people right and left, you might get a clue that you are probably posting in violation of those gray, catch-all provisions.
In which case, you could go back and edit your own posts. I've had two late nights in a row and I'm not going to spend a third one trying to read everything you've posted, this is not a job I get paid for, but here's some food for thought as you go about deciding if anything you have written should be edited:
1) you may not make negative generalizations about whole groups of people (to assume something about a single unique woman because she comes from a "feminist culture" would be a prejudiced and generalized statement and, thus, should be avoided)
2) you may not make negative statements about any members
3) you may note your personal preferences and feelings for a mate or in a relationship, but it must be limited to things like, "I am much more attracted to women who believe in submission to men." "I don't like to be in a relationship with a woman who won't follow my authority." Etc. People may not like it, but it's within the rules.
I hope that is all clear enough.
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Dilbert wrote:
fs, are you a south Asian man? Because that would explain a whole lot...
I am ethnically Jewish. Why would being a South Asian man explain a lot?
DW_a_mom wrote:
The rules that apply to ALL our sub-forums are available in a sticky at the top of the General Autism discussion board.
Thank you very much. I will quote it here since it is rather short:
Quote:
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1. Posting offensive language, comments, video, or images.
Unacceptable content includes swearing; racist, sexist, homophobic language; behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members; violent or sexually demeaning content; sexual fetish; and discussion of excretory function. Posting graphic images or videos of people or animals being harmed is prohibited.
2. Personal attacks.
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.
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1. Posting offensive language, comments, video, or images.
Unacceptable content includes swearing; racist, sexist, homophobic language; behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members; violent or sexually demeaning content; sexual fetish; and discussion of excretory function. Posting graphic images or videos of people or animals being harmed is prohibited.
2. Personal attacks.
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.
3. Other inappropriate content and behavior prohibited on Wrong Planet:
This includes copyrighted material, serial codes, and posts made to promote a website, group or product, particularly if made repeatedly and without other participation in the WP community (spamming). This also includes discussion of locked topics, discussion of banned members and why they were banned and anything else that purposely causes conflict with other members.
DW_a_mom wrote:
When you seem to be offending people right and left, you might get a clue that you are probably posting in violation of those gray, catch-all provisions.
People are being offended because I am attacking an opinion/belief/philosophy, namely feminism. And this is explicitly allowed in the rules.
DW_a_mom wrote:
In which case, you could go back and edit your own posts. I've had two late nights in a row and I'm not going to spend a third one trying to read everything you've posted, this is not a job I get paid for, but here's some food for thought as you go about deciding if anything you have written should be edited:
1) you may not make negative generalizations about whole groups of people (to assume something about a single unique woman because she comes from a "feminist culture" would be a prejudiced and generalized statement and, thus, should be avoided)
2) you may not make negative statements about any members
3) you may note your personal preferences and feelings for a mate or in a relationship, but it must be limited to things like, "I am much more attracted to women who believe in submission to men." "I don't like to be in a relationship with a woman who won't follow my authority." Etc. People may not like it, but it's within the rules.
I hope that is all clear enough.
1) you may not make negative generalizations about whole groups of people (to assume something about a single unique woman because she comes from a "feminist culture" would be a prejudiced and generalized statement and, thus, should be avoided)
2) you may not make negative statements about any members
3) you may note your personal preferences and feelings for a mate or in a relationship, but it must be limited to things like, "I am much more attracted to women who believe in submission to men." "I don't like to be in a relationship with a woman who won't follow my authority." Etc. People may not like it, but it's within the rules.
I hope that is all clear enough.
I haven't violated your #2, but numerous women have violated it when attacking me. Do you plan to do anything about that?
Your #1 and #3 are related. I want to express my belief that women from non-feminist countries are generally friendlier and make better wives. That is my experience and I am here to share that with other men. I see nothing in THE rules against making such general statements. Are you a moderator here who is able to invent new rules? If so, I suggest you post them somewhere.
katzefrau wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Some butthurt man isn't getting sex on tap?
beautiful.
fs, get lost.
I just want to thank these women for showing men here what feminist women are like. Men, do you really want to date women like this? Think it over.
fs wrote:
katzefrau wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Some butthurt man isn't getting sex on tap?
beautiful.
fs, get lost.
I just want to thank these women for showing men here what feminist women are like. Men, do you really want to date women like this? Think it over.
I don't think the majority of women find men who find submissive wives of other cultures to do their bidding attractive really.
A couple like that came over to my parents for dinner once, and my Mum who is not femenist at all really felt sorry for the Asian lady because the man acted really superior and like she was his slave and it showed. Basically "You make my diner, you clean, and you give me sex and children". A rather sad existance for many women without rights.
ToadOfSteel wrote:
Oh, and a long overdue: Godwin's Law
FTW
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fs wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
if this were true that there is something wrong with american feminism, then there should be hordes of men who do not have fulfilling relationships and who cannot ever find happiness. sure, some people will not ever marry, but nothing has changed since feminism - there have always been individuals in every society who stayed single for one reason or another. both men and women.
Let me address this one point. There are hordes of men who do not have fulfilling relationships. Many of them are divorced or are married to worthless wives. But this can't be objectively measured, so can't be debated well. But the statement "nothing has changed since feminism" is beyond absurd. Just look at something that can be objectively measured, illegitimacy rates:
[img][800:571]http://www.coalpha.org/file/n5125898/db18_Fig_6.png[/img]
i don't really agree with much anything you've said
although i must admit those graph statistics are somewhat interesting
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Seanmw wrote:
i don't really agree with much anything you've said
although i must admit those graph statistics are somewhat interesting
although i must admit those graph statistics are somewhat interesting
That's ok. I don't expect you to agree with what I said, at least right away. I just hope you find it interesting and thought provoking. I suspect that the more that you think for yourself, the more you will find yourself agreeing with me. Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have.
hale_bopp wrote:
I don't think the majority of women find men who find submissive wives of other cultures to do their bidding attractive really.
A couple like that came over to my parents for dinner once, and my Mum who is not femenist at all really felt sorry for the Asian lady because the man acted really superior and like she was his slave and it showed. Basically "You make my diner, you clean, and you give me sex and children". A rather sad existance for many women without rights.
A couple like that came over to my parents for dinner once, and my Mum who is not femenist at all really felt sorry for the Asian lady because the man acted really superior and like she was his slave and it showed. Basically "You make my diner, you clean, and you give me sex and children". A rather sad existance for many women without rights.
I want to clear up this "submissive wives" myth. Men need to understand that we define "submissive" differently than feminists do. To a feminist, a woman who isn't a hostile b***h is submissive. So these foreign women who are friendly to men are seen as submissive. For a good idea of what Mexican women are like, read In Praise Of Mexicanas.
fs wrote:
To a feminist, a woman who isn't a hostile b***h is submissive.
No, a woman who isn't a "hostile b***h" is a nice woman.
A woman who is submissive is submissive. Look up the definition.
Also i'm interested in your bigotted point of view. What makes a woman a "worthless wife" and why?
foreveryoung wrote:
Unlike most guys on here, I've dated a hot NT, even if for only a brief period of time, and I got further with her (sexually) than most guys here would. Does that make me a relationship expert? No. But it makes me more qualified than a good percentage of the guys here.
This may be true for the L&D forum regulars, but not on WP in general - a lot of the males here are married, divorced or have been in at least one relationship. But according to you, this means they don't have AS, right?
foreveryoung wrote:
This also proves that women have no idea what it's like to be a guy. Sex probably doesn't interest you at all, or if could be that men have never shown sexual interest in you and you live with cats are just bitter yourself?
If you really have to know I've been married for years, like sex a lot (started early too) and I've always had very high standards about whom I date. Standards that had nothing to do with looks and even less with money since I would never accept to be financially dependent on someone. I fully understand people's desire to have sex - it can be a very pleasant and beneficial activity.
I don't know if it's the sexual frustration or just immaturity and lack of basic manners, but whenever someone disagrees, you're resorting to personal attacks and rather childish ones too. I might not know how it is to be a guy, but you're completely incapable to acknowledge that your very limited experience is not universal and petty enough to insinuate that anybody more successful than you is lying or ugly. Yawn
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hale_bopp wrote:
What makes a woman a "worthless wife" and why?
I could tell you to look up "worthless" in the dictionary, but I think it's pretty obvious. Worthless means provides no worth, meaning no companionship, no sex, no affection, no anything of value to a relationship.
fs wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
What makes a woman a "worthless wife" and why?
I could tell you to look up "worthless" in the dictionary, but I think it's pretty obvious. Worthless means provides no worth, meaning no companionship, no sex, no affection, no anything of value to a relationship.
I know what "worthless" means, I asked you what makes a wife "worthless" and if you marry someone who gives no companionship affection or sex then its their fault for marrying them. You seem to know f*ck all about happy marriges expect for your own, assuming that just because someone marries a white western woman that they are a "worthless wife" or the man is unhappy.
I'll give you an example.
The last guy I was with I loved very much. I brought him food, cooked meals for him sometimes, loved him enjoyed his company. I also am a woman who demands equal rights, respect on the job, and to be a money earner.
I guess that makes me a worthless partner because i'm white and female, and don't put a mans needs 100% first, according to your logic.
hale_bopp wrote:
I know what "worthless" means, I asked you what makes a wife "worthless" and if you marry someone who gives no companionship affection or sex then its their fault for marrying them. You seem to know f*ck all about happy marriges expect for your own, assuming that just because someone marries a white western woman that they are a "worthless wife" or the man is unhappy.
I'll give you an example.
The last guy I was with I loved very much. I brought him food, cooked meals for him sometimes, loved him enjoyed his company. I also am a woman who demands equal rights, respect on the job, and to be a money earner.
I guess that makes me a worthless partner because i'm white and female, and don't put a mans needs 100% first, according to your logic.
I'll give you an example.
The last guy I was with I loved very much. I brought him food, cooked meals for him sometimes, loved him enjoyed his company. I also am a woman who demands equal rights, respect on the job, and to be a money earner.
I guess that makes me a worthless partner because i'm white and female, and don't put a mans needs 100% first, according to your logic.
Where did I say that all western women are worthless wives? I didn't. What I did say is that the dating pool of women in feminist countries is worthless, and this is because there are far fewer decent women than decent men in these countries (a generalization, I know, but true), so the decent women are quickly removed from the dating pool. What is left is generally worthless. The same guy (Fred) who I linked to about Mexican women also has a rather good description of American women.
With regards to wives working, I personally have nothing against it but I believe that one parent should stay home with the kids. When my wife said that she wanted to work, I responded that that's fine but that I would then quit my job and stay home. She changed her mind. I would add that very unfortunately, most working wives end up losing respect for husbands who stay home, which just shows that women are wired to be sexist regardless of what they say.
By the way, what happened to that last guy you were with?
fs wrote:
Where did I say that all western women are worthless wives? I didn't.
No, you didn't but you said this:
fs wrote:
American women suck and I strongly advise all men to avoid them like the plague.
To me that indicates the majority of women in English speaking countries in the white western world? Why? Because The US, The UK, Australia and New Zealand all have similar culture in terms of the dating game and "feminism". My bet is if you lived here, you would be saying the same about New Zealand women.
fs wrote:
there are far fewer decent women than decent men in these countries (a generalization, I know, but true), so the decent women are quickly removed from the dating pool. What is left is generally worthless.
What is left? And you're complaining about people flaming you? What makes a DECENT MAN, FS, and why are there more of them than decent women?
fs wrote:
With regards to wives working, I personally have nothing against it but I believe that one parent should stay home with the kids. When my wife said that she wanted to work, I responded that that's fine but that I would then quit my job and stay home. She changed her mind. I would add that very unfortunately, most working wives end up losing respect for husbands who stay home, which just shows that women are wired to be sexist regardless of what they say.
I think you will find it's usually the wife who looks after the kids, even in "femenist" cultures. Whats normal here is the wife takes time off to look after kids and when they are old enough for school, she works in the day. I would hardly call that unreasonable.
fs wrote:
By the way, what happened to that last guy you were with?
He got a very good job offer overseas, and it's complicated in that regard. I don't feel like sharing my personal life with you.
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