The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
But if the rant is sexist or containts a generalization then it would still make problems in the havens.
But if the love-related rant is clean and not offensive to any group, then where is the problem to be in L&D?
The problem is not where it is being posted.
If a post or thread is sexist than it should be removed no matter where it is. It is in the forum guidelines.
The point of moving even the harmless rants is so someone isn't left trying to decide if their new topic belongs here or there. Someone might find it clean and unoffensive, someone might take issue with it. Really though, if you are ranting, what is the point? What are you trying to get out of it? Like Kraftie said, sometimes people just need to let the emotions out and get some positive support. That is what the Haven is for. Sometimes people are looking to start a debate. Or they are asking a question that is most definitely going to lead to a debate. That is what PPR is for.
Alex asked for suggestions on how to create a more mellow atmosphere in this subforum. The easiest solution to Alex's problem would be to move the topics that create a different atmosphere. There are certain kinds of topics that bring about a more heated debate. Once things heat up, calm, rational conversations can devolve into vitriol fueled debates where people take sides and nothing gets resolved. It seems to happen on this subforum more than most of the others.
The PPR and Haven guidelines spell all of this out. PPR is for debating and has less strict rules. It literally says, "The same thread that can happily exist in PPR would not be allowed to exist in the Random forum for example. Hot topics of debate belong in PPR". The Haven is for people in distress looking for help and support. Not to debate. The other subforums are mostly for "sharing information, mutual support, general chit-chat and socialising".
So really, this should already be the case. I haven't seen any good arguments against it either. There might be fewer posts in L&D. So what? Maybe people will see a lack of activity and decide not to post, which would exacerbate the problem. However, there's also a chance that people will feel more encouraged to post if they know the topic is less likely to turn into a heated debate. Even if there are less posts, that would likely just mean more posts in other places.