Are most men struggling to get healthy weight women?

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I'm fat and I get hundreds of messages from healthy fit men on dating sites. I definitely don't think 'most men' are as picky as you.

also lol at you implying women who don't reply to you are rude, but then admitting you don't respond to fat women.

come on dude lol

I can almost guarantee women aren't responding to you, because they sense this attitude^

for the record I think its totally fine that you aren't attracted to fat women, preference shouldn't be something we feel bad about, but don't assume because its not your preference that others feel the same way.

Indeed.
http://www.simplypsychology.org/cogniti ... nance.html

I'm not struggling to get "healthy weight" women. Ever consider you're doing something (or not) that doesn't attract them?

Scientifically everyone has some belly fat that can only be removed with surgery and yes even skinn people have rolls when sitting literally type skinny rolls into Google



My best friend is petite, skinny and works out daily and she has the skinny rolls despite having the ideal body and a bit of her ribs showing

Yes it's unrealistic too the contrast has been used to make the muscles appear bigger and more defined. It's s**t like this that makes my fine feel like s**t because no matter how much he eats he can't put on weight.

It also give women an unrealistic view of a man

+1

I just meant the combination is rare. Sure there are thin girls with above average breast size but thin girls with above average breast size and a perfect waist to hip ratio are even more rare. Some women can look like this but most can't. That's why it'd be an unrealistic goal for a lot of women to look like this.


I didn't intend to suggest that most men (or you) wouldn't be fine with a non perfect looking woman nor that most think small breasted women should consider surgery.
The questionable part of the add is that it implies anyone less perfect than this doesn't have beach body/shouldn't show their body and I guess/hope the people who criticize it are more worried with that some women (even if there's no rational reason to do so due to an add) will feel ashamed of their body even though it's perfectly fine than that it could make men demand such perfection.


It's not unrealistic, unless some women expect to always look like that or some men don't recognize that the pose is part of the reason why this girl looks that perfect. (and I never said women this good looking are unrealistic; just very rare and that it is not possible for most women and for the rest not without investing a huge amounth of time)


Okay, that's right. Women whose hobby it is too look good and to be admired do. Women who go to the beach more to swim than just to lie around usually don't. I should have written 'many women' instead of 'women'. (I'm not trying to imply that there is anything wrong with looking good and letting others watch you as a hobby; nor that there is anything wrong with preferring to date girls like that; there's nothing wrong with it)


Neither do I. It's not a problem unless some people expect themselves to look like that. (I was just trying to say that for most women it is not possible to look like that especially not all the time)



Precisely it's an ideal. It becomes a problem for people who compare themselves to the ideal but not for people who are being realistic and compare themselves to real life people.
Again; I am not complaining about your preferences. I'm just saying that this women even if we just talk about bodies and not faces and hair will be very attractive for more people than your average BMI 18 woman. Thus her body is not the same as the average BMI 18 woman and the average BMI 18 woman can't get such a perfect looking body. Thus that there are not that few slim women doesn't mean the way she looks is reachable for most.


Nothings wrong with that. I never said so and I'm not sure what part of the things I wrote makes you think I did. The ones who complained specifically about men not dating heavier women were others, not me.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having preferences. I neither think there's anything wrong with being attracted to certain people and not to others nor that you can change by will who you are attracted to.
All people choose a partner partly due to genetics unless they're desperate enough to take anyone willing.


Yes; I wasn't talking about your preferences but about why this add isn't worded in the best way (I also don't think adds shouldn't use beautiful models but I think the picture in combination with the wording isn't ideal). I myself am more attracted to slim guys (no; they don't have to be overly muscular) and admitting it, no matter if anyone here thinks that's shallow. Chubby guys are perfectly fine. Some of them are really attractive. I couldn't imagine having sex with a morbidly obese man however. I simply am not physically attracted to them.
My BMI is 19.6 thus it's not a double standard. I'm not expecting men to be less fat than myself just because I'm not into morbidly obese.
I'm sure some people would never date me due to the way I look (my skin is ugly - acne) and I'm perfectly fine with that (and most of the rest would never date me for an even better reason, namely my personality, and I'm also fine with that). In my opinion it's perfectly okay to have preferences and no one chooses who they are attracted to. If something is unattractive to a person even if it's just a physical feature that's fine whether it's fat people, thin people, people with acne or anything else. Its shallow if someone chooses their friends due to physical features, or treats people in everyday interactions differently because of their appearance but as soon as a relationship involves sex physical attraction isn't irrelevant and I don't care whether that's shallow.

Bloody hell, it's a protein advert! Honestly, what do you expect to find there?
If someone really feels like s**t for something as trivial as this then it is his problem.
Can't we just stop taking adverts so seriously?

Or maybe as a male you often have a muuuch lower response rate. When I was on a dating site I only once got a message from a girl who was not a bot or trying to make me subscribe to some fishy website, and later I even found out that, besides living on the other face of the planet, she also had a boyfriend already.
But no, you are probably right and they can sense our evil intent with their female superpowers or something.

I know that both are unrealistic but my question was: Was there an uproar regarding the 2014 ad?

Did anyone condemn it?

Did some journalist wrote against it?
Did some mayor talk against it?

I think you know the answer.

I thought it was the same beachbody advert my mistake. Even so it is highly unrealistic, even people who work out for hours each day would struggle for this physique

If they really had such superpowers in "sensing" vibes or whatsoever, then divorce rate would be much lower, no? Why so often partner turned out to be abusive; their superpower is failing them a lot.
:p

Look SwimmingHigh; I know you want all guys to see women as equal and that's fair; but if you speak in this language about your gender like "we women can sense your attitude" or "we women can smell your non confidence from a mile".... and such other magazine clichés then you are somehow... alienating women yourself, seriously; as if they are creatures with some very distinct abilities than men. That doesn't serve anyone well.
But there's no magical powers in you, even the NT women; you misread people sometimes, you misevaluate people sometimes, you get backstabbed by people you thought to know well... that's what about being a human being.

Let's put these old "women mindreading/sensing power" myths that magazines and popular culture talk so much about to rest.

Still, it's a weight loss product, of course the model for it is going to be very skinny.
Adverts very often are exaggerate and flashy. Have you ever seen these adverts for dishwashing products? They take pans that look like they have just been dug out of a WWII site and after they brush them a little they look brand new. I doubt that happens for real, what is it? Muriatic acid?
Or these cornflakes that on TV seem to overflow with chocolate and when you buy them they're almost empty.

I know what you mean but body image can affect people worse then a plate that is to clean. I just worry about young men and women seeing this and thinking that they are lesser for it. I know they shouldnt but it does happen.

It's like the whole thigh gap thing teen girls were starving themselves trying to get it when it's just not possible for some.

That with a mixture of zero exposure to normal bodys he can have terrible effects. Like how guys who watch alot of pon think their penises are below averge because they have only seen stonkers

I did read their post and that is not what they said, that bit was your exaggeration of their idea that perhaps porn could give an unrealistic perspective on attractiveness and what a healthy weight is. Maybe they were wrong about that but they didn't say 'guys are either attracted to women of all weight or they are only attracted to porn stars'.

Yes but shorter by how much? he just said a women who weighs 175 is too fat...didn't specify how much shorter she would be with weighing that much to look very fat. She'd have to be closer to my height and I am pretty short compared to most my age at just barely 5 feet tall.

But if they are so susceptible then it's their problem. They should be helped by having their self-confidence increased, not their paranoias encouraged. That way you'll only make things worse.

If men or women want an ideal body they must work hard to get it. We should all know that goals are attained through hard work, discipline a self-sacrifice, not complaining.

If they want an average body that's their choice but then they shouldn't feel insecure compared to those who worked very hard to attaining peak fitness.