What is misogyny? What is misandry?

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09 Oct 2017, 5:28 am

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Do the "sciences" include biology? Then the overall ratio would be probably comparable here. But I noticed a funny thing: there were not many girls studying IT at my husband's faculty, maybe 1/15 of all the students. They did well, graduated and then... none of the ended up actually coding. They got to management and designing in IT projects but not to coding.
I know actually coding girls, I do coding myself (but I have no formal IT grade) but the number is even smaller than female IT students.

I remember exactly one incident of sexism in my university life. A young female matematician had to give an invited seminar and one older guy in the audience started giving comments about her skirt and devaluating what she was saying. She got enraged, stopped the seminar, the chairman tried to silence the guy but he wouldn't stop. Then she got furious and left, the guy was asked to leave too and two professors hurried to ask the speaker to finish her lecture.
She did finish, luckily, now everybody could focus on what she was saying and it was interesting.
That guy is notorious for interrupting lectures, he is not a part of the faculty body but we don't want to give up the open doors politics because of one annoying visitor. But that time everybody hated him for ruining an interesting talk and being rude to a guest. This should never happen.

Good for her for not putting up with it. Why not simply ban that one man who keeps causing problems?

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09 Oct 2017, 5:37 am

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Good for her for not putting up with it. Why not simply ban that one man who keeps causing problems?

Usually he was not that bad, just asking one or two distracting questions, so he was tolerated. That time... like her pencil skirt and stilettos (not typical to a matematician but come on! It's mathematics, focus on the equations!) took the worst from him, really.

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09 Oct 2017, 5:52 am

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Chronos wrote:

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Good for her for not putting up with it. Why not simply ban that one man who keeps causing problems?

I bet he is a pervert loser.

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09 Oct 2017, 7:13 am

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I bet he is a pervert loser.

Quite possible.

I noticed that many women in the graduation scene and the miss candidates alike have obviously male middle names. Is it a local custom or are they their fathers' names, a bit like in Russian tradition?

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09 Oct 2017, 8:24 am

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I liked light pink as a kid

As an adult I like cartoons including mlp as the characters are cute and the stories are sweet. People are super judge of men who like it though so I hide it and if I ever get a gf I’ll have to get ride of all my rainbowdash stuff and fox stuff

This is exactly in agreement with my observation: if a girl likes cars and plays a pirate, it is ok. If a boy likes Barbie, he needs to hide it.

And like Chronos said it only starts with children. Grown up man will never wear anything feminine, but it's fine for a woman to dress in men clothes. In romantic movies there's a lot of scenes where a woman wears guys shirt, but it's never the reverse. And now there's a thing called boyfriend jeans.

A woman won't be discouraged from driving a manly car (there's songs about women driving pickup trucks or movies about women driving fast cars), but a man, unless he is really secure about his manliness, will be embarrased to drive something feminine.

I think at least part of a reason is still how homophobic even our modern society is.

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09 Oct 2017, 8:36 am

^^ agree to most of it.

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I think at least part of a reason is still how homophobic even our modern society is.

That's another issue:
Why is feminine taste or behavior in males associated with homosexualism?

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09 Oct 2017, 9:13 am

It's because there are some gay people who blatantly play the "female" role.

It's a way of saying that a homosexual is "less of a man." It "offers," to the bigot, a way of emasculating and just dismissing all gay people.

I majored in Speech Pathology in college/university. I was the only male out of 45 people in my graduating class.

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09 Oct 2017, 9:17 am

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Is a man who says he likes women for their looks misogynist?
Is a woman saying she looks for an employed man misandrist?

I see these terms used here but don't exactly get what people mean using them.

why are you interested in the subject. do whatever you want and can . no worries.

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09 Oct 2017, 9:38 am

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why are you interested in the subject. do whatever you want and can . no worries.

I'm not worried. I love to know what others think. So I ask questions.

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But you're straight, aren't you?
I see no reason why a straight man wouldn't be, say, a makeup specialist. Nor any reason why a gay couldn't be a miner.
Do you see any reasons for the stereotypes here or are they just prejudices?

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09 Oct 2017, 9:52 am

Just prejudices...absolutely.

I would probably do better as a miner than as a makeup specialist----but that's just me.

It's not because I'm such a "masculine" man----it's because I don't have good fine-motor coordination, which is required for someone who seeks to be a makeup specialist.

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09 Oct 2017, 10:10 am

magz wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

I bet he is a pervert loser.

It's the father's name.

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09 Oct 2017, 10:22 am

I like Chickas Bonitas!

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