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12 Nov 2018, 3:14 am

ltcvnzl wrote:
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Sorry. Bad example.

But....unless you’re an unrepentant child molester or somebody who doesn’t bother to take showers or wear clean clothes, you can be desirable for a woman.

Complaining about lack of women...to a woman whom you don’t know well...will lead to rejection.

There are LOTS of nice women on WP.



This guy created a fake tinder profile claiming to be a child molester and still got matches because of his hot looks:

https://cheezburger.com/3017733/guy-con ... ng-results

Tinder has exposed a lot of instincts.

Sadly, there are some truths in what aspie82 is saying; looks is now the most important factor no matter how others would deny it.


Of course, you're assuming that the standards of women on Tinder apply to the standards of the majority of women. Considering how few women actually bother with online dating, I'd take these tests with a grain of salt.


Tinder is the most popular dating site in human history, it has 'normalized' online dating, it's the first dating app where you hear people talking about in outings; you never heard people talking about using okcupid or pof, these were unpopular taboo stuff used by a minority who were too ashamed to admit using them. Tinder on the other hand doesn't have this stigma for some reason.

Tinder has 50 million people while okstupid has only 4 millions. So I don't buy into the "tinder is a biased sample" argument, it's not that biased as you think.


None of the messages included any mention to his claimed crime, it could be that he mention some joke about crime like the girls did about stealing chocolate or gum and then changed it to "show" his purpose. even if tinder was a valid sample, this experience has no value.

it's just one more biased example for frustrate guys who like to bash on woman.


Look again at the conversations, it's obvious that most of them did read his bio, just scroll little further down. The ones who joked about chocolate theft obviously read his bio.

And is there anyone sane who jokes like that? Come on.

You just want to deny the experiment results and accuse us of bashing women. And you don't even wanna admit that there are some women out there who only care about looks.



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12 Nov 2018, 3:36 am

Elliot Rodger had a God complex, wanted to become rich and powerful by winning the lottery, had dreams of becoming a dictator and create the world in his own image, entitlement of a British aristocrat, wanted women to flock to him without doing anything, regarded most people as inferior and believes he is superior.



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12 Nov 2018, 3:44 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
ltcvnzl wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Sorry. Bad example.

But....unless you’re an unrepentant child molester or somebody who doesn’t bother to take showers or wear clean clothes, you can be desirable for a woman.

Complaining about lack of women...to a woman whom you don’t know well...will lead to rejection.

There are LOTS of nice women on WP.



This guy created a fake tinder profile claiming to be a child molester and still got matches because of his hot looks:

https://cheezburger.com/3017733/guy-con ... ng-results

Tinder has exposed a lot of instincts.

Sadly, there are some truths in what aspie82 is saying; looks is now the most important factor no matter how others would deny it.


Of course, you're assuming that the standards of women on Tinder apply to the standards of the majority of women. Considering how few women actually bother with online dating, I'd take these tests with a grain of salt.


Tinder is the most popular dating site in human history, it has 'normalized' online dating, it's the first dating app where you hear people talking about in outings; you never heard people talking about using okcupid or pof, these were unpopular taboo stuff used by a minority who were too ashamed to admit using them. Tinder on the other hand doesn't have this stigma for some reason.

Tinder has 50 million people while okstupid has only 4 millions. So I don't buy into the "tinder is a biased sample" argument, it's not that biased as you think.


None of the messages included any mention to his claimed crime, it could be that he mention some joke about crime like the girls did about stealing chocolate or gum and then changed it to "show" his purpose. even if tinder was a valid sample, this experience has no value.

it's just one more biased example for frustrate guys who like to bash on woman.


Look again at the conversations, it's obvious that most of them did read his bio, just scroll little further down. The ones who joked about chocolate theft obviously read his bio.

And is there anyone sane who jokes like that? Come on.

You just want to deny the experiment results and accuse us of bashing women. And you don't even wanna admit that there are some women out there who only care about looks.


I read the conversations, that's why I addressed the possibility of him changing his bio, which previously could state something about chocolate theft or other minor and innocent stuff making some joke, than the girls joked too and them he changes his bio to a serious crime. They mention about crimes in a light way, but don't mention the nature of the crime. I'm not saying no women cares only or mainly about looks, but from that creating this theory that women will joke about child abuse for a cute face and nice abs is a huge stretch... and the experiment sounds quite weak and easy to manipulate.



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12 Nov 2018, 3:45 am

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Elliot Rodger had a God complex, wanted to become rich and powerful by winning the lottery, had dreams of becoming a dictator and create the world in his own image, entitlement of a British aristocrat, wanted women to flock to him without doing anything, regarded most people as inferior and believes he is superior.


That description reminds me of a some current ruler.



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12 Nov 2018, 3:48 am

ltcvnzl wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
ltcvnzl wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Sorry. Bad example.

But....unless you’re an unrepentant child molester or somebody who doesn’t bother to take showers or wear clean clothes, you can be desirable for a woman.

Complaining about lack of women...to a woman whom you don’t know well...will lead to rejection.

There are LOTS of nice women on WP.



This guy created a fake tinder profile claiming to be a child molester and still got matches because of his hot looks:

https://cheezburger.com/3017733/guy-con ... ng-results

Tinder has exposed a lot of instincts.

Sadly, there are some truths in what aspie82 is saying; looks is now the most important factor no matter how others would deny it.


Of course, you're assuming that the standards of women on Tinder apply to the standards of the majority of women. Considering how few women actually bother with online dating, I'd take these tests with a grain of salt.


Tinder is the most popular dating site in human history, it has 'normalized' online dating, it's the first dating app where you hear people talking about in outings; you never heard people talking about using okcupid or pof, these were unpopular taboo stuff used by a minority who were too ashamed to admit using them. Tinder on the other hand doesn't have this stigma for some reason.

Tinder has 50 million people while okstupid has only 4 millions. So I don't buy into the "tinder is a biased sample" argument, it's not that biased as you think.


None of the messages included any mention to his claimed crime, it could be that he mention some joke about crime like the girls did about stealing chocolate or gum and then changed it to "show" his purpose. even if tinder was a valid sample, this experience has no value.

it's just one more biased example for frustrate guys who like to bash on woman.


Look again at the conversations, it's obvious that most of them did read his bio, just scroll little further down. The ones who joked about chocolate theft obviously read his bio.

And is there anyone sane who jokes like that? Come on.

You just want to deny the experiment results and accuse us of bashing women. And you don't even wanna admit that there are some women out there who only care about looks.


I read the conversations, that's why I addressed the possibility of him changing his bio, which previously could state something about chocolate theft or other minor and innocent stuff making some joke, than the girls joked too and them he changes his bio to a serious crime. They mention about crimes in a light way, but don't mention the nature of the crime. I'm not saying no women cares only or mainly about looks, but from that creating this theory that women will joke about child abuse for a cute face and nice abs is a huge stretch... and the experiment sounds quite weak and easy to manipulate.


So you are hypothesizing that the guy has changed his bio.

Look, there's an easy way to prove that, we can redo his experiment. :mrgreen: Are you up to the challenge?

I can make screen video recordings to prove that the bio description wasn't changed. I am even ready to share the credentials so you can check the profile yourself.



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12 Nov 2018, 3:52 am

First of all, I need a believable hot guy picture (non-famous), and not a pic that looks taken from a magazine, so any suggestions ladies? :mrgreen:



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12 Nov 2018, 4:07 am

Lack of facial symmetry, poor bone structure, weak jawline, high forehead, receding hairline, feminine features. Normal functioning guys that do not look good enough struggle to attract female partners.
Being an incel is not an Autistic thing, there are plenty of normal functioning guys that lost the genetic lottery of life.
I hate hearing cliche garbage advice like: "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" , "work on yourself and wait for love to happen", "there is someone for everyone", etc. This does not change the fact that some males are destined to become incels and never attract a single female in their entire life despite desiring them. There are plenty of successful guys that can not ever attract women in their lives. It is just the way it is.



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12 Nov 2018, 4:27 am

Aspie19828 wrote:
Lack of facial symmetry, poor bone structure, weak jawline, high forehead, receding hairline, feminine features. Normal functioning guys that do not look good enough struggle to attract female partners.
Being an incel is not an Autistic thing, there are plenty of normal functioning guys that lost the genetic lottery of life.
I hate hearing cliche garbage advice like: "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" , "work on yourself and wait for love to happen", "there is someone for everyone", etc. This does not change the fact that some males are destined to become incels and never attract a single female in their entire life despite desiring them. There are plenty of successful guys that can not ever attract women in their lives. It is just the way it is.


but is just a male thing? there isn't ugly or/and awkward females who end up alone too? i feel really annoyed on how people put it as a sexed thing. ugly woman are so ignored that not even to recognized they are ignored people stop ignoring them.



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12 Nov 2018, 4:31 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
First of all, I need a believable hot guy picture (non-famous), and not a pic that looks taken from a magazine, so any suggestions ladies? :mrgreen:


i think it's quite unethical to associate ones face with a crime, but it's up to you how much you want to prove that woman are mean and shallow. i have better things to do.

(also, indeed some woman can like criminals. there isn't a whole thing about woman sending love letters to serial killers and so on? but what does annoys me with this "experiment" is that it put it as some common and relevant aspect, and not a small deviation in people's behavior, of being attracted to things they know they shouldn't... IF the experiment is true, which honestly I don't believe so).



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12 Nov 2018, 4:48 am

ltcvnzl wrote:
Aspie19828 wrote:
Lack of facial symmetry, poor bone structure, weak jawline, high forehead, receding hairline, feminine features. Normal functioning guys that do not look good enough struggle to attract female partners.
Being an incel is not an Autistic thing, there are plenty of normal functioning guys that lost the genetic lottery of life.
I hate hearing cliche garbage advice like: "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" , "work on yourself and wait for love to happen", "there is someone for everyone", etc. This does not change the fact that some males are destined to become incels and never attract a single female in their entire life despite desiring them. There are plenty of successful guys that can not ever attract women in their lives. It is just the way it is.


but is just a male thing? there isn't ugly or/and awkward females who end up alone too? i feel really annoyed on how people put it as a sexed thing. ugly woman are so ignored that not even to recognized they are ignored people stop ignoring them.


I think Men are less picky, there’s also more men then women globally. Do you think there’s many women in China who are single not by choice? Men in China need a woman any woman to carry on their family line and name, it’s important to their culture. Ironically it’s that same thing that created the current problem.

I don’t think anyone here is ignoring ugly women. I’d date an ugly woman provided I find her somewhat attractive and I find 90-95% of women attractive. I’ve seen women even I find ugly who are married with kids, doesn’t seem they had much issue. Other guys say they ugly too, clearly their bf or husband didn’t find them ugly or atleast not so much so to not date them.

There are lonely single women, but thst doesn’t invalidate the struggle for men.just as our struggle doesn’t invalidate theirs. It’s not and either or thing.


I’ve only turned down one woman in my whole life. I’m not able to get the numbers everyone says is needed to find the one. Certain doesn’t seem there’s much hope for me. Guys at work talk about how they get 10+ dates a couple weeks and how if you don’t feel it just move on to the next, or how they dating 3 women at once asking which to keep dating. They date women at work too.
Makes me depressed. I usually stand there silent. I have nothing to add. They like yiu know how it is and I’m like um no actual I don’t.
Customers assume I’m in a relationship they make jokes or you know how it is statements. But i dont know so I don’t onow what to say back. I never had a relationship. I kinda miss the seclusion of the clearance department, I lack the experiences 20 year olds have and thus don’t fit in. I likely never where. I’ll never make friends. The only plus size is most everyone else comes and goes. Unfortunately for the next month they hired bunch of attractive women to be elf’s, or so I hear, so I look forward to mean stares from the, as well as hearing about how coworkers are dating them. 4 days a week of hell, 3 days to recover. Older guys ask why I’m not married why I’m not working better job, I’ve never been asked by female coworkers any of those, they just know why I’m single, why don’t men? Mean it’s pretty clear, I’m not meeting any of the standards required. Sorry gues I went off topic
The women single at my work are single by choice, I ask around. The ones I consider kinda ugly are all in relationships. Even the super big lady with short hair. It’s usually the younger attractive ones going to college who are single. But I can only speak for the 200 so people working the retail store with me. Tomorrow is first day of Santa’s workshop. Atleast they leave in 2 months.

Hope you don’t feel ignored. Hugs



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12 Nov 2018, 4:49 am

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but is just a male thing? there isn't ugly or/and awkward females who end up alone too?

Incel guys like to ignore them.


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12 Nov 2018, 5:46 am

ER only wanted pretty blonde haired, blue eyed girls with good figures. ER posted on Youtube and social media and claim it is an injustice that girls are not attracted to him. ER likes girls, desire girls but they are not attracted to him. ER claimed he is magnificent, he is amazing, he is more civilised, he is a true alpha male, he is the supreme gentleman. ER sits in his BMW with designer clothes and just sit and wait. No girl ever approached and asked ER out. ER jealous and envious of guys he regarded as beneath him attract the blonde haired, blue eyed girl he wants. No dates from OKC, no messages for ER. ER got ridiculed by the brutes on body building forum.



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12 Nov 2018, 6:22 am

I live in such a beautiful place but living my life of loneliness, misery is a nightmare worse than death. It is nothing worse desiring something you want a pretty blonde hair, blue eyed girl and she will never ever want you. I only want Stacey but she only wants her Chad.



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12 Nov 2018, 6:26 am

the fate of a lot of incels reminds me of the "No Exit" hell scenario of person A interested in person B who in turn happens to hate person A and wishes person C would pay attention to him/her, but person C is only interested in person A who hates person C etc.



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12 Nov 2018, 9:21 am

If an incels expectations are higher than they are capable of achieving, then whose fault is it that they have no one while being completely obsessive over it?



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12 Nov 2018, 11:41 am

Incels becoming shooters is actually true because of the amount of testosterone that's built up and not able to release somewhere. Most guys are butthurt because they can't get a girl and they go shooting up a place because of that. Generally they're also mental and stuff but I do believe incels do have a tendency to becoming shooters.